Kompany to Bayern Munich?

[claptrappers_union]

VK signed a contract, and there'll be a release clause stating how much a club needs to pay to take him away from Burnley Football Club. I'm not sure what the negotiations are unless ALK is asking for more money.

What happened to 'tapping up?'

Maybe there was a clause that allowed him to speak with other clubs, but I'm sure Burnley Football Club's demands have to be met before VK can discuss personal terms.

[morninbob]

VK signed a contract, and there'll be a release clause stating how much a club needs to pay to take him away from Burnley Football Club. I'm not sure what the negotiations are unless ALK is asking for more money.

What happened to 'tapping up?'

Maybe there was a clause that allowed him to speak with other clubs, but I'm sure Burnley Football Club's demands have to be met before VK can discuss personal terms.

There's obviously no release clause or Bayern would have just paid it.

[Quickenthetempo]

Anyone know if we are still using MUD analytics?

Well I can't see Vinny using it this year.

Don't Bayern buy their players for the coach?

[Jakubclaret]

I don't think its worth it, financially, to mess about to much. Yes Pace might be angry, but, IMO, its better for the club to get a decent wedge of compo, move him on and get going for next season.

I very much doubt pace will be angry mighty relieved if any emotion. I’d go as far to say when the news broke he would have been considering putting the lottery on this weekend. The whack kompany was rumoured to be on coupled with the revenue lost with relegation it would have financially crippling continuing things without change.

[RicardoMontalban]

There's obviously no release clause or Bayern would have just paid it.

Unless that’s what Bayern are trying to negotiate…

[Goliath]

I very much doubt pace will be angry mighty relieved if any emotion. I’d go as far to say when the news broke he would have been considering putting the lottery on this weekend. The whack kompany was rumoured to be on coupled with the revenue lost with relegation it would have financially crippling continuing things without change.

I imagine he's more angry than anyone. He stuck his neck on thr line by not sacking Kompany and trusting in the long term project. It's not unreasonable to say sacking him would have given us the short term results to keep us up, so it was a fair bit of loyalty Pace showed to VK at that point.

[Jakubclaret]

I imagine he's more angry than anyone. He stuck his neck on thr line by not sacking Kompany and trusting in the long term project. It's not unreasonable to say sacking him would have given us the short term results to keep us up, so it was a fair bit of loyalty Pace showed to VK at that point.

You are entitled to think that way. I think he could be getting a good payout & at the same time avoiding to sack a manager with a lucrative lengthy contract so its win win. Everyone’s different I’d personally be doing handstands cartwheels & somersaults with that stroke of luck.

[AGENT_CLARET]

I've heard Kompany has signed a three year deal to join Munich and he's taking Floribert Ngalula to be his assistant not Bellamy, just the compensation to be agreed now.

[kentonclaret]

Alan please just get him gone before they realise that Poch is available and a much better manager!

8/9 much more experienced managers at this level have already given Bayern the Spanish archer. No way Pochettino would go and manage that bunch of basket cases.

[ClaretPete001]

Media talk. It will get settled and VK will go.

Pace needs to be talking to potential candidates and get on selling players to sort the cashflow out and to fill the gaps in the squad.

He hasn't got time to eff about with VK . And tbh standing in the way of a manager who has the opportunity to go to Bayern is not a good look.

Pace should be pleased that the work he and VK have done has been recognised by one of the elite clubs not spitting his dummy. Not that I even remotely think he will be doing that...!

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

8/9 much more experienced managers at this level have already given Bayern the Spanish archer. No way Pochettino would go and manage that bunch of basket cases.

I can imagine Pace is really annoyed at all this but he needs to take himself out of the situation, hes got an offer for a manager that has failed at the top level, take the money and run, no point playing hard ball. His head has been turned, it was all just a VK vanity project to get him into a bigger job. Let him go Alan and quick

[claptrappers_union]

There's obviously no release clause or Bayern would have just paid it.

So whos given Bayern Munich permission to speak to Vincent Kompany?

[Goliath]

You are entitled to think that way. I think he could be getting a good payout & at the same time avoiding to sack a manager with a lucrative lengthy contract so its win win. Everyone’s different I’d personally be doing handstands cartwheels & somersaults with that stroke of luck.

Win win? We've been relegated with a pathetic points tally which wouldn't have happened if they'd sacked him realistically. He has every right to feel like he's been done over and by all accounts that's exactly how he does feel.

[ArmchairDetective]

No doubt Bayern are well versed in poaching players and managers from other clubs and will be well aware of the potential mess it leaves if we don't accept the deal. Part of their bargaining power. I don't like it but that's how it is.

[Swizzlestick]

No doubt Bayern are well versed in poaching players and managers from other clubs and will be well aware of the potential mess it leaves if we don't accept the deal. Part of their bargaining power. I don't like it but that's how it is.

Bit different this time as they aren’t usually turned down by managers they want - and they’ve been turned down by about six already. Add in the fact they haven’t won anything for the first time in yonks and they aren’t in quite as powerful a position as they’re used to.

[ClaretTony]

Sacha Tavolieri just reporting that Bram Geers will be joining Kompany at Bayern. He was one of the back room staff who left after last week.

[Claretnick]

Could there be a potential breach of contract here? Hence why we are asking for a stipulated amount to release a key employee from his contract, otherwise it is just a worthless piece of paper....

[Casper2]

Bit different this time as they aren’t usually turned down by managers they want - and they’ve been turned down by about six already. Add in the fact they haven’t won anything for the first time in yonks and they aren’t in quite as powerful a position as they’re used to.

Which six have turned them down?

[IanMcL]

It's all too quiet!

[123EasyasBFC]

Massive conflict of interest. There was a post I did about this a while back and my concerns have sadly come true. A lot of mess for the club to clean up

The conflict of interest was there whilst he is manager but when he leaves there would be the same issue. But this just further identifies my concerns that the ownership got lucky last season and as soon as things started going wrong their lack of football knowledge started to show

[NewClaret]

Could there be a potential breach of contract here? Hence why we are asking for a stipulated amount to release a key employee from his contract, otherwise it is just a worthless piece of paper....

I would have thought the contract has a set compensation fee.

I’d also have thought Bayern would have known that and agreed to pay it in principle before being given permission to talk to Kompany. That or they tapped him up which I presume is a breach of rules.

Personally just think complex deals like this take a long time to negotiate and conclude legally but journalists feel the need to fill the delays with a bit of drama that doesn’t exist for clicks.

[Jakubclaret]

Win win? We've been relegated with a pathetic points tally which wouldn't have happened if they'd sacked him realistically. He has every right to feel like he's been done over and by all accounts that's exactly how he does feel.

It's all about damage limitation we have been relegated you can't go back in time & reinstate that position. Pace will be looking to cut costs & getting somebody to take the highest earner & even getting paid for that will constitute win win. We are dealing with the aftermath of relegation things are never pretty.

[NewClaret]

Sacha Tavolieri just reporting that Bram Geers will be joining Kompany at Bayern. He was one of the back room staff who left after last week.

Can understand the GK coach if he is going to Ajax.

Not Bellamy if he’s not going with him? But why not?

And why would this guy resign if he was going with Kompany a week later? Strange & makes me think there’s maybe more at play than we know.

[123EasyasBFC]

I've heard Kompany has signed a three year deal to join Munich and he's taking Floribert Ngalula to be his assistant not Bellamy, just the compensation to be agreed now.

That’s been on mainstream media for 3 days now

[BurnleyFC]

What’s going on with Kompany and Bellamy?

Why would Bellamy have left after the last game of the season, when Kompany wasn’t even going at that point?

Have they had a falling out?

[Pearcey]

Sacha Tavolieri just reporting that Bram Geers will be joining Kompany at Bayern. He was one of the back room staff who left after last week.

All starting to look a bit shady isn’t it.

[IanMcL]

https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2 ... ane-tuchel

Latest info

[123EasyasBFC]

Sacha Tavolieri just reporting that Bram Geers will be joining Kompany at Bayern. He was one of the back room staff who left after last week.

Either there’s been a difference in option between some of the coaching staff or Bayern have been in touch with Kompany for a while

[TManc]

What’s going on with Kompany and Bellamy?

Why would Bellamy have left after the last game of the season, when Kompany wasn’t even going at that point?

Have they had a falling out?

Bellany's GF is pregnant which may also mean Cardiff come calling

[HahaYeah]

What’s going on with Kompany and Bellamy?

Why would Bellamy have left after the last game of the season, when Kompany wasn’t even going at that point?

Have they had a falling out?

Someone elsewhere said that CB doesn't want to move his children.

[bumba]

Please tell me you are not being serious?

Deadly serious, what did VK do in his first full season?

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

What’s going on with Kompany and Bellamy?

Why would Bellamy have left after the last game of the season, when Kompany wasn’t even going at that point?

Have they had a falling out?

I assume maybe Bellamy doesnt fancy moving abroad, doesnt he have family in Wales? Hes loaded anyway, probably doesnt need the hassle. Went home for a while with mental health issues whilst at anderlecht serving under Kompany.

[gandhisflipflop]

Deadly serious, what did VK do in his first full season?

In his first full championship season with us he got 101 points. If you want to talk about the belgian league had he got 101 points there and had a **** championship season you’d be calling it a farmers league

[Neil]

I assume maybe Bellamy doesnt fancy moving abroad, doesnt he have family in Wales? Hes loaded anyway, probably doesnt need the hassle. Went home for a while with mental health issues whilst at anderlecht serving under Kompany.

Loaded? I thought he was bankrupt?

[bumba]

In his first full championship season with us he got 101 points. If you want to talk about the belgian league had he got 101 points there and had a **** championship season you’d be calling it a farmers league

So forget the 3 seasons he had in Belgium and pick his most successful season?
He finished 8th in his first managerial season with one of the biggest clubs in the league with one of the biggest budgets and players like Jeremy Doku!
I'd say Rosenior finishing 7th with a team that was fighting relegation the season before is a better achievement.
VK has failed in 4 out of 5 seasons he's managed with 1 successful season when everything fell in to place for him with a clean slate.
Would he had done it had we not had the squad clear out we'd had?
Just missing out on the play offs with Hull in your first season is a better achievement than finishing 8th with Anderlecht in your first full season in your respected leagues.

[fidelcastro]

Loaded? I thought he was bankrupt?

So was Donald Trump

[GetIntoEm]

Some absolute dross posted on here isn't there

Compensation will be agreed today, it's done. New manager announcement by end of next week

[ClaretInLeeds]

Some absolute dross posted on here isn't there

Compensation will be agreed today, it's done. New manager announcement by end of next week

The hedge betters are here….

Anyone could’ve guessed that - don’t pretend to be ITK

[Murger]

Some absolute dross posted on here isn't there

Compensation will be agreed today, it's done. New manager announcement by end of next week

No chance.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Loaded? I thought he was bankrupt?

Thats what they all say

[ClaretTony]

What’s going on with Kompany and Bellamy?

Why would Bellamy have left after the last game of the season, when Kompany wasn’t even going at that point?

Have they had a falling out?

I’m sure Bellamy will have known about Kompany’s intentions

[Rileybobs]

Seems the most likely scenario to me is that the club has to give another club permission to speak to VK and there is a mandatory release clause, set at say 20m Euros which would allow him to leave. Bayern speak to VK who is interested in the job, then Bayern agree terms with VK and try to negotiate the £20m Euros down. We eventually meet somewhere in the middle.

Obviously, the issue we have is that VK's position at Burnley is now untenable, so we're not in the strongest negotiating position and will more than likely have to take less than what we want.

The other thing to consider is the rest of the backroom team, and who will be leaving with Kompany. Again, this is likely to affect how much compensation will be paid.

[Clovius Boofus]

I see the conspiracies are coming to the fore again. If Kompany had been approached weeks ago, then I doubt BM would have been looking at other managers before turning to him.

[dsr]

So forget the 3 seasons he had in Belgium and pick his most successful season?
He finished 8th in his first managerial season with one of the biggest clubs in the league with one of the biggest budgets and players like Jeremy Doku!
I'd say Rosenior finishing 7th with a team that was fighting relegation the season before is a better achievement.
VK has failed in 4 out of 5 seasons he's managed with 1 successful season when everything fell in to place for him with a clean slate.
Would he had done it had we not had the squad clear out we'd had?
Just missing out on the play offs with Hull in your first season is a better achievement than finishing 8th with Anderlecht in your first full season in your respected leagues.

Kopmany was appointed player-manager of Anderlecht at the start of 2019-20, but resigned after 4 matches. You're right that Anderlecht finished 8th but by no stretch was that a full season for Kompany.

His first full season was the following year after he had finished playing, and they finished 3rd in the regular season but 4th in the Championship round; the following year was better, they finished 3rd in the regular season and still 3rd in the Championship round.

[tally]

This whole buisness {not just at our place but in general}
is ripping out the last few shreds of credibility what was once a great game called football ......now called monopoly

[Rileybobs]

I see the conspiracies are coming to the fore again. If Kompany had been approached weeks ago, then I doubt BM would have been looking at other managers before turning to him.

Who knows. But it's not beyond the realms of possiblities that Bayern draw up a shortlist of managers and go about a 'soft approach' of each one to gauge their interest in the job. In fact, I'd say it's almost certain that VK knew he was being considered for the position before the season finished.

[Hbclaret007]

Xavi to Bayern Munich?

[ŽižkovClaret]

Burnley FC x Leverkusen the new Burnley x Helmond?

Basically, F**k Bayern

[Spijed]

Sacha Tavolieri just reporting that Bram Geers will be joining Kompany at Bayern. He was one of the back room staff who left after last week.

Who was the inept set piece we'd employed?

The one who stood on the edge of the technical area every time we were involved in a free kick or corner?

[bumba]

Kopmany was appointed player-manager of Anderlecht at the start of 2019-20, but resigned after 4 matches. You're right that Anderlecht finished 8th but by no stretch was that a full season for Kompany.

His first full season was the following year after he had finished playing, and they finished 3rd in the regular season but 4th in the Championship round; the following year was better, they finished 3rd in the regular season and still 3rd in the Championship round.

He didn't step down he was working alongside another guy whilst he concentrated more on the playing side, he was still part of the management setup.
3rd is still a failure for Anderlecht!
Whichever way you look at it the point is VK didn't pull up any trees in his first few seasons so to write Rosenior off from one full season would be silly, not saying he'd be my pick but he shouldn't be written off.
Kieran McKenna probably wasn't the manager Ipswich wanted at the time.
VK after his first full season wouldn't have been a manager we'd have chosen.
Who is to say Rosenior isn't a very talented coach?