Kompany to Bayern Munich?

[onewillieirvine]

Thanks Boyanno, It looks like a right old mess.

[ksrclaret]

The stories about dressing room unrest haven’t surprised me at all given the shocking attitudes, work ethics, and resilience we’ve seen from most of the VK signings.

I think VK was very, very lucky that he inherited a group of ultra professionals from Dyche in his first season with us. As soon as he started binning those off, it unraveled.

[GetIntoEm]

It started unraveling ages ago. I haven't said anything about it since it started getting nasty when I reported about the squad meeting, but I can also say quite confidently that other things have happened.

For example I believe Kompany held a meeting with several players where he told them they could **** off a few months ago after there had been some fall outs behind doors. Many players unhappy with their playing time etc.

It's been a mess for ages and the truth will come out eventually. I know Big Vinny K backed me up over the squad meeting and I can't be the only one who knows about the meeting with VK and several senior players.

I don't remember your post about the meeting. Was it the senior players? Or some of the younger lads who haven't been getting used, Benson, Zaroury etc?

Maybe this change might mean the future of some of these players might change

[randomclaret2]

It started unraveling ages ago. I haven't said anything about it since it started getting nasty when I reported about the squad meeting, but I can also say quite confidently that other things have happened.

For example I believe Kompany held a meeting with several players where he told them they could **** off a few months ago after there had been some fall outs behind doors. Many players unhappy with their playing time etc.

It's been a mess for ages and the truth will come out eventually. I know Big Vinny K backed me up over the squad meeting and I can't be the only one who knows about the meeting with VK and several senior players.

Any chance we can keep all this under wraps until he's definitely gone and we've safely banked the 15m euros from Bayern ?

[ClaretTony]

It started unraveling ages ago. I haven't said anything about it since it started getting nasty when I reported about the squad meeting, but I can also say quite confidently that other things have happened.

For example I believe Kompany held a meeting with several players where he told them they could **** off a few months ago after there had been some fall outs behind doors. Many players unhappy with their playing time etc.

It's been a mess for ages and the truth will come out eventually. I know Big Vinny K backed me up over the squad meeting and I can't be the only one who knows about the meeting with VK and several senior players.

From what I've been told it's been toxic

[ClaretTony]

All now done says Sacha, Kompany is now the new Bayern head coach to be announced next week

[ClaretPete001]

And like I said further up the thread, I hope Alan Pace has learned a lesson from this.

Alan Pace will be fighting for his own future at the club. Vincent Kompany has done him a massive favour not only in terms of his personal and investment narratives about developing talent but also in terms of cash flow.

No one could have watched those last two home games and been confident for next season. Not least because four of the regulars in the first team squad in the last third of the season came on loan - three in January.

[tarkys_ears]

I think Pace has been two steps ahead in this game

He could have potted him months ago and still been relegated with a massive bill

This is a good move from him

[123EasyasBFC]

So it’s on from 20m to 17m to 15m in pounds to reported 13m euros.

Almost Bayern have made his position so untenable that we have had to back down on our fee

[CoolClaret]

The stories about dressing room unrest haven’t surprised me at all given the shocking attitudes, work ethics, and resilience we’ve seen from most of the VK signings.

I think VK was very, very lucky that he inherited a group of ultra professionals from Dyche in his first season with us. As soon as he started binning those off, it unraveled.

Spot on.

They really were the glue, 22/23 wouldn't have been possible without them.

[ClaretPete001]

I think Pace has been two steps ahead in this game

He could have potted him months ago and still been relegated with a massive bill

This is a good move from him

I think the concept that an owner would leave a manager in position despite the club heading for relegation on the premise that Bayern would come in and sign him up is a little far fetched even for this forum.

[CoolClaret]

From what I've been told it's been toxic

Any rumours of a fallout between Bellers and Kompany?

Seems likely to me, the team also seemed to have an extra edge when Bellers was on the touch line... Something's gone on anyway going off Guddy's feelings about the training standards this season.

[Milltown1882]

My arse, show and Town Hall Steps are the words which spring to mind.

When do you want the stage building?

[Murger]

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A lot less than what Sacha has quoted.

[CoolClaret]

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A lot less than what Sacha has quoted.

I'm not sure if anything will be disclosed; if it's high then Bayern will have their lot put out a low figure to journos so it doesn't look like they've been shafted and vice versa (though to a lesser extent).

Will absolutely be undisclosed.

[Murger]

And now he’s posted a new figure of €13m. I think we’ve had our pants pulled down.

[ClaretTony]

Any rumours of a fallout between Bellers and Kompany?

Seems likely to me, the team also seemed to have an extra edge when Bellers was on the touch line... Something's gone on anyway going off Guddy's feelings about the training standards this season.

Don't think you are too far wide of the mark

[ClaretTony]

And now he’s posted a new figure of €13m. I think we’ve had our pants pulled down.

At the end of the day Murger, we had to come to some sort of agreement because there was no way he could come back. Had this not gone through we would probably have had to terminate his contract and that would have cost us. Whatever we've got is a good figure for us for a manager.

[KefkaClaret]

It was too far gone to pull out if they don’t match the fee, would just leave us having to sack him. It’s not like negotiating with a player.

[Murger]

At the end of the day Murger, we had to come to some sort of agreement because there was no way he could come back. Had this not gone through we would probably have had to terminate his contract and that would have cost us. Whatever we've got is a good figure for us for a manager.

Yeah I get that. But for all the ‘Pace is playing hardball’ talk, it seems a bit anti-climatic.

[alwaysaclaret]

Don't think you are too far wide of the mark

Said everything for me watching Gudmundsson walking off the pitch at the end of the Newcastle game, there was clearly more going on than just losing the game.

[123EasyasBFC]

Sacha has shown a deep lack of class in his posts which he has now deleted, the modern day engagement posts on X we awful

[ksrclaret]

The only people who’ve had their pants pulled down are Bayern Munich if they’ve paid anywhere close to 10m euros for his services.

I’m absolutely ecstatic with the price.

[tarkys_ears]

I think the concept that an owner would leave a manager in position despite the club heading for relegation on the premise that Bayern would come in and sign him up is a little far fetched even for this forum.

Didn't exactly have to be Bayern did it.

It could have been any team. And if they didn't, we make him work in the Championship next year.

Not difficult to comprehend, even for this forum.

...and as this is seemingly whats happened, I don't get your point

[ClaretPete001]

Yeah I get that. But for all the ‘Pace is playing hardball’ talk, it seems a bit anti-climatic.

Bayern aren't stupid and neither is Kompany they had an agreement and leaking it to the press pulled Pace's pants down.

A pair of Cowboy jockies ain't now match for Lederhosen in the battle of the Pants.

[Goliath]

Any rumours of a fallout between Bellers and Kompany?

Seems likely to me, the team also seemed to have an extra edge when Bellers was on the touch line... Something's gone on anyway going off Guddy's feelings about the training standards this season.

I did notice at the time Bellamys big acknowledgement of Jay Rod's excellent cameo after the Chelsea game. It did suggest to me that Bellamy had been fighting his case and he looked genuinely happy for him.
In fact I wonder if it was Bellamy making the subs after Kompany had been sent off. Either way it was a brilliant battling performance in that 2nd half.

[ElectroClaret]

At the end of the day Murger, we had to come to some sort of agreement because there was no way he could come back. Had this not gone through we would probably have had to terminate his contract and that would have cost us. Whatever we've got is a good figure for us for a manager.

Getting shut without paying him a penny and collecting 13 million Euros into the bargain seems incredible business to me.

[dsr]

Football politics being what they are, I shouldn't be surprised if the quoted (rumoured) fee is for Kompany alone but there is an additional fee for the backroom staff that they will keep quiet.

[boyyanno]

I don't remember your post about the meeting. Was it the senior players? Or some of the younger lads who haven't been getting used, Benson, Zaroury etc?

Maybe this change might mean the future of some of these players might change

The meeting I mentioned last time was the team bonding session that most of the team didn't bother attending.

It's since been reported about the cliques within our squads etc.

But yes I believe a mixture of new and old players were told by Kompany where they could go after things had been getting toxic behind doors. Lots of players unhappy with squad selections and playing time. Tresor was definitely part of the group and had we had the option to not sign him I can assure anyone we would have taken it. I'd expect the fortunes of some players to seriously look up now he's gone. Before that the same had already happened resulting in Roberts and Zaroury going on loan and I believe we tried to move on others.

[Murger]

Let’s hope we now get a revitalised Benson and Zaroury.

[Goliath]

The meeting I mentioned last time was the team bonding session that most of the team didn't bother attending.

It's since been reported about the cliques within our squads etc.

But yes I believe a mixture of new and old players were told by Kompany where they could go after things had been getting toxic behind doors. Lots of players unhappy with squad selections and playing time. Tresor was definitely part of the group and had we had the option to not sign him I can assure anyone we would have taken it. I'd expect the fortunes of some players to seriously look up now he's gone. Before that the same had already happened resulting in Roberts and Zaroury going on loan and I believe we tried to move on others.

It's surprising really that Tresor got back into the thinking at the end of the season. I presume it was a month or 2 ago that they realised they weren't getting out of the deal so they started reintegrating him hoping to show he was still part of the plans in order to increase his value.

[bumba]

If someone told me 12 months ago we'd be losing VK to Bayern his summer I'd have been gutted but also slightly happy because I'd have presumed it meant we'd had a brilliant season again, right now though I couldn't be happier he's gone and can't stop laughing at Bayern paying money for him.
An arrogant man that will be sacked before Christmas.
Feel for Harry Kane though he goes to Bayern to win trophies and it still might not happen

Now over to Pace to pick the right man to sort the mess left behind.

[Clive 1960]

From what I've been told it's been toxic

It's all rumours Tony at the moment but hopefully we might hear something about what went on later but i won't hold my breath, other than it's been a bad season...

[CoolClaret]

I did notice at the time Bellamys big acknowledgement of Jay Rod's excellent cameo after the Chelsea game. It did suggest to me that Bellamy had been fighting his case and he looked genuinely happy for him.
In fact I wonder if it was Bellamy making the subs after Kompany had been sent off. Either way it was a brilliant battling performance in that 2nd half.

Yeah that and some real heartfelt words for Muric - not just empty platitudes that VK had been banging on about every week.

[bumba]

The meeting I mentioned last time was the team bonding session that most of the team didn't bother attending.

It's since been reported about the cliques within our squads etc.

But yes I believe a mixture of new and old players were told by Kompany where they could go after things had been getting toxic behind doors. Lots of players unhappy with squad selections and playing time. Tresor was definitely part of the group and had we had the option to not sign him I can assure anyone we would have taken it. I'd expect the fortunes of some players to seriously look up now he's gone. Before that the same had already happened resulting in Roberts and Zaroury going on loan and I believe we tried to move on others.

Ekdal nearly went presume he was unhappy at playing time, it isn't hard to guess which will have been unhappy especially when we was all watching how weak we were week in week out!

Now he's gone maybe we'll see the best of players like Tresor

[IanMcL]

Exclusive | Now it’s almost a DONE DEAL: Vincent #Kompany will become the new coach of FC Bayern!

Total agreement was reached with Burnley: Around €10-12m transfer fee

Verbal agreement has been in place for days

Contract until 2027 as revealed!

The only thing missing is Kompany‘s signing ...

Saga is over …

@SkySportDE

[pauliopaulio]

Read on the Kompany to Munich thread about potential unrest behind the scenes which was the first I’d heard about it.

Thought it might be worth having a separate thread where people could share what they have heard about issues in the dressing room

[tarkys_ears]

"almost" a done deal

Wow. This journo really is the ******** isn't he!

[bumba]

You've already said it, unrest behind the scenes

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

If someone told me 12 months ago we'd be losing VK to Bayern his summer I'd have been gutted but also slightly happy because I'd have presumed it meant we'd had a brilliant season again, right now though I couldn't be happier he's gone and can't stop laughing at Bayern paying money for him.
An arrogant man that will be sacked before Christmas.
Feel for Harry Kane though he goes to Bayern to win trophies and it still might not happen

Now over to Pace to pick the right man to sort the mess left behind.

Ten million quid compo instead of a £20m bill for sacking him is a right result. Need someone that can offload all the crap he has bought. Good job for someone though. Hopefully Pace has learnt his lesson with big names now.

[ClaretPete001]

Didn't exactly have to be Bayern did it.

It could have been any team. And if they didn't, we make him work in the Championship next year.

Not difficult to comprehend, even for this forum.

...and as this is seemingly whats happened, I don't get your point

Your point was 'I think Pace has been two steps ahead in this game'.

He's just spent £100 million, seen his team manage one win against a PL 11 in 38 games and now lost almost his entire management team and a number of his backroom staff.

On what planet is that being two steps ahead of the game?

[Newcastleclaret93]

And now he’s posted a new figure of €13m. I think we’ve had our pants pulled down.

Give over. We’ve won the lottery here.

A manager that was likely to be potted this season we have just received the third highest compensation in history for manager.

[warksclaret]

What a massive cloud lifted over our club. Take the compo and run, and lets regroup. Lessons learned-a Championship club that can play sexy football will never survive in the PL. Lets sacrifice a little of that, for man management qualities, and someone who understands the lower leagues and the young talent coming through our Isles. Someone who the team want to play for. The rumours of player unrest dont surprise me at at all, reflected by how quick some have wanted to jump ship. In a week he has gone from Vincent Kompany to Vincent Kon-many. Good riddance

[IanMcL]

An arrogant man that will be sacked before Christmas.
Feel for Harry Kane though he goes to Bayern to win trophies and it still might not happen

Will Harry Kane ever score another goal for Bayern?

Pass it Harry. Pass it!

[Steddyman]

From what I've been told it's been toxic

In that case, my thanks for keeping that under wraps all this time until he has gone.

I would have liked to have known, but had it got out sooner, there would have no doubt been calls from fans to sack him. We couldn't have afforded to sack him on such a long contract, and now we are financially much better off without him.

Alan and the board will have learned loads from this experience, and hopefully we will never find ourselves in this position again.

[bfcjg]

I know someone who works at the club and Kompany's stubbornness was well known. So much so that a meeting was called and the staff were told in no uncertain terms it was his way or the highway. Not sure there will be many tears she'd.

[bumba]

Ten million quid compo instead of a £20m bill for sacking him is a right result. Need someone that can offload all the crap he has bought. Good job for someone though. Hopefully Pace has learnt his lesson with big names now.

Glad it's come so soon after the season finishing, it's given me some excitement back for the new season.
Get a good appointment in, get rid of all the baggage and bring a bit of experience in to balance it out.

[bumba]

Will Harry Kane ever score another goal for Bayern?

Pass it Harry. Pass it!

Depends if he's effective off the right wing

[IanMcL]

It is a pity the seniors with the Dyche culture, have been cleared.

[Rileybobs]

He's just spent £100 million, seen his team manage one win against a PL 11 in 38 games and now lost almost his entire management team and a number of his backroom staff.

1 win against a PL11 in 38 games?