ARTICLE: Who is your choice to become the next Burnley manager?

[BurnleyFC]

Why would we want the ugliest manager in the world?

We don’t.

He’s off to Bayern Munich.

[Since62]

I think Pace will go for a “big name” to develop the club’s “global brand”
Quite possibly someone not on the list but of those maybe OGS.
Still waiting for confirmation that VK has gone!

[ClaretTony]

Still waiting for confirmation that VK has gone!

He's gone, of that there is no doubt, but all the paper work will need to be completed and signed.

[Roosterbooster]

Alot said of a "big name" to grow the brand

But being in the PL would grow the brand much more
And staying in it would go even further

I do, however, accept that Pace wants it to be done in a certain way. And an exciting football brand is potentially much more important to him than being a safe bottom half PL club every season

[BB4Claret]

If you’re including Moyes in the list, surely Potter should be on there, too ??!!

[dougcollins]

Does Fabregas actually have any previous as a manager?

[Goody1975]

Voted for name not mentioned, as I heard a name earlier on the Turfcast podcast which intrigued me Van Nistelroy. I suspect it will be either Cooper or Knutsen though, Moyes is probably the best candidate on purely management credentials, but I am concerned if he would drop down and also would we need to have another rebuild to match his playing style?

I think if Kompany had kept us up and then left for Bayern then van Nistelrooy would have been very high up on the list of possible replacements, I read somewhere that he wants to come to England next but is waiting for the right job. Would he want to come to a team in the Championship and be suited to that level anyway? A big risk.

[ClaretTony]

If you’re including Moyes in the list, surely Potter should be on there, too ??!!

As I’ve posted previously, those chosen were those who have been linked with us.

[Papabendi]

Sorry but that's not true is it. Its sort of true for Carrick, but he's judged by Boro fans as having done a good job. It's not true of Cooper, Corberan or Robins (all of whom have reached a play off final with an unfancied team). Even Carrick reached the play off semis despite taking over a team that had had a poor start - Boro maintained automatic promotion form 2 years ago after he took over. Cooper and Corberan have reached multiple play off competitions. Robins has come within an ace of taking Coventry to an FA cup final, and of course brought Coventry from the middle of league 1 to promotion as champions to Championship promotion contenders against the backdrop of financial instability.

There's lots of scope for everyone to have their own perspective on preferred candidates - and none of the above are magic bullets - but let's keep it factual.

I perhaps should have been more precise. What deep experience do any of the managers you list out have when it comes to our predicament and what have they won? Cooper is the only one that I can see who has and is therefore rightly in consideration. Getting teams up the table but not promoted, getting them close to FA cup finals, being 'good' in the eyes of the fans, is really not the point. We have to be utterly ruthless here, and I am afraid your list comes up well short.

[claretspice]

I perhaps should have been more precise. What deep experience do any of the managers you list out have when it comes to our predicament and what have they won? Cooper is the only one that I can see who has and is therefore rightly in consideration. Getting teams up the table but not promoted, getting them close to FA cup finals, being 'good' in the eyes of the fans, is really not the point. We have to be utterly ruthless here, and I am afraid your list comes up well short.

Well that is as you say a more precise critique and each to their own - fair enough.

I think it's flawed, though. Cooper would be my first choice but im really not sure there is much to choose between him and Corberan. The only reason Cooper had won promotion and Corberan hasn't is a couple of dodgy penalty appeals in a play off final they both contested, and I'm not sure the fact one got the fortune on that day is a particularly helpful guide in determining who might do well for us. Both have strong records for outperformance at Championship level which is exactly what we need. Robins has a similar record recently if more of a journey man feel to him. But both have achieved more than might have been expected of the club in question. Funnily enough all 3 have very similar records to the one Moyes himself had in the Championship with Preston all those years ago. He hadn't won anything either before Everton saw through that and appointed on his ability and potential.

Carrick I agree is more of a punt. But what we're looking for is someone who can work with the current squad, galvanise it and get promotion. Winning with a totally different type of squad arguably is a bit of a red herring in that analysis. I think all of Moyes, Cooper, Corberan, Robins and possibly Carrick are worthy of serious consideration.

[ClaretTony]

I do wonder how anyone can work with this current squad. We have far too many players, it’s downright ridiculous how many we have. We need someone who can help move a load of them on and then reshape from those who remain with a small number of potential new signings.

[jrgbfc]

Does Fabregas actually have any previous as a manager?

Just got Como promoted to Serie A.

[Nonayforever]

Not sure, but I think French is now the predominant language spoken within our squad now.
Are there any French speaking managers out there that we might be interested in ?
I seem to recall R Hodgson was fluent in French.

[Swizzlestick]

Just got Como promoted to Serie A.

Assistant manager there. Manager is a Welsh guy, Osian Roberts.

[Quickenthetempo]

I do wonder how anyone can work with this current squad. We have far too many players, it’s downright ridiculous how many we have. We need someone who can help move a load of them on and then reshape from those who remain with a small number of potential new signings.

I'm hoping the owners can show they can sell players for decent prices.

Otherwise you have to fear for the club, it was what their entire plan was based on.

[jrgbfc]

Assistant manager there. Manager is a Welsh guy, Osian Roberts.

Didn't realise that. With all the media attention i assumed he must have been the manager.

[warksclaret]

I do wonder how anyone can work with this current squad. We have far too many players, it’s downright ridiculous how many we have. We need someone who can help move a load of them on and then reshape from those who remain with a small number of potential new signings.

Agreed-I posted a few months ago that we may not have sufficient resource internally to get those not wanted by the new manager sold, and not simply punted out on loan.Apart from Collins, Pope, Cornet,McNeil (all in demand), and sold when we were relegated, we have a poor record of selling players-endless numbers out on loan, I suspect the cash would be welcomed too

[Hedontplayforyou]

Assistant manager there. Manager is a Welsh guy, Osian Roberts.

Fabregas started the season in charge but didn’t have the relevant badges so he acted as number two to an interim Roberts who I believe has now gone “upstairs” at Como while Fabregas moves to number 1.

[Safron]

I like corberan he is super passionate lives and sleeps football and could be just what we need.

[ClaretTony]

I like corberan he is super passionate lives and sleeps football and could be just what we need.

He’s been installed as the favourite for Leicester

[Jamesy]

First choice, Mark Robins. I think he would be a great fit for us.
Second choice, Steve Cooper. He would probably jump at the chance to come to Burnley.
Third choice, David Moyes. He probably wouldn’t want to drop down to the Championship though.

None of the above would try and pull Alan Pace’s pants down like Kompany did. Whoever takes it though has got a major job on sorting out the wheat from the chaff. Let’s hope there is an appointment within days of the bluffing Belgian being appointed at Bayern.

[Safron]

He’s been installed as the favourite for Leicester

That's a pity

[Roosterbooster]

Not sure, but I think French is now the predominant language spoken within our squad now.
Are there any French speaking managers out there that we might be interested in ?
I seem to recall R Hodgson was fluent in French.

I presume Will Still can speak French
And most Scandinavians, Dutch and Belgians can speak 3 or 4 languages

[Pickles]

I presume Will Still can speak French

Yep!

https://twitter.com/primevideosport/sta ... 3ub2A&s=19

[claptrappers_union]

I can’t get excited about Mark Robins. I get the feeling that Coventry is his club… it's just the right fit like Coleman was at Stanley or Duncan Ferguson at Peterborough. Luring him away will assert to much pressure to succeed. He's never managed in the top flight either despite being about for a bit too I think its a sideways move for him.

My top three

Cooper - ticks all the boxes

Moyes - I think our appeal is that he will see us as a fresh challenge for him

OGS - Potential to work his way back into the spotlight as a credible manager again and ticks the big name box that ALK will like, however he could drop us if a decent PL club come knocking

[Darnhill Claret]

We can't pick managers by excluding those we might think will use us as a stepping stone. In fact to me I prefer an ambitious manager to one who is style over substance, although we now know the two aren't mutually exclusive.

[Swizzlestick]

Yep!

https://twitter.com/primevideosport/sta ... 3ub2A&s=19

Love how he randomly goes back to English now and again.

It always intrigued me that Kompany conducted his team talks in English at Anderlecht.

[Jakubclaret]

A sensible choice would be cooper if he can be persuaded forest fans might have not liked him but the bloke who replaced him hasn't fared much better. They didn't have to scrape survival due to the bottom 3 I don't think they have massively improved since replacing him I'll welcome any stats that say otherwise with logic applied.

[claptrappers_union]

We can't pick managers by excluding those we might think will use us as a stepping stone. In fact to me I prefer an ambitious manager to one who is style over substance, although we now know the two aren't mutually exclusive.

There are stepping stones, and there's jumping at the first opportunity but I think it depends on how you structure the appointment

I firmly believe that your manager is hired to manage the club; they have the final say on what goes in almost all aspects - from the football side, development teams, transfers, contracts, scouting, kits, etc.

However, I'm also a romantic in believing that the manager should stay forever if they are any good. These days though the average lifespan of a football manager in the dugout is about 2 years. So when they upsticks and leave it can be a bit messy.

So Director of Football with a Head Coach is probably the most sensible way these days… but the thing with ALK is that I don't think they've got enough football people at the club who seem to stick around long enough to execute that model yet.

I prefer more pragmatic managers though. I'd rather see another Stan or Dyche type with a healthy backing from the board.

[IanMcL]

I do wonder how anyone can work with this current squad. We have far too many players, it’s downright ridiculous how many we have. We need someone who can help move a load of them on and then reshape from those who remain with a small number of potential new signings.

Exactly.

[claptrappers_union]

This is a list of the current first team squad

**Goalkeepers:**

1. James Trafford - Goalkeeper
2. Lawrence Vigouroux - Goalkeeper
3. Arijanet Muric - Goalkeeper
4. Bailey Peacock-Farrell - Goalkeeper

**Defenders:**

1. Dara O’Shea - Defender
2. Charlie Taylor - Defender
3. Jordan Beyer - Defender
4. CJ Egan-Riley - Defender
5. Connor Roberts - Defender
6. Hjalmar Ekdal - Defender
7. Vitinho - Defender
8. Ameen Al-Dakhil - Defender
9. Owen Dodgson - Defender
10. Maxime Estève - Defender
11. Hannes Delcroix - Defender
12. Luke McNally - Defender

**Midfielders:**

1. Josh Brownhill - Midfielder
2. Manuel Benson - Midfielder
3. Nathan Redmond - Midfielder
4. Sander Berge - Midfielder
5. Aaron Ramsey - Midfielder
6. Josh Cullen - Midfielder
7. Darko Churlinov - Midfielder
8. Luca Koleosho - Midfielder
9. Mike Trésor - Midfielder
10. Han-Noah Massengo - Midfielder
11. Wilson Odobert - Midfielder
12. Samuel Bastien - Midfielder
13. Dara Costelloe - Midfielder
14. Scott Twine - Midfielder

**Forwards:**

1. Jay Rodriguez - Forward
2. Lyle Foster - Forward
3. Anass Zaroury - Forward
4. Zeki Amdouni - Forward
5. Michael Obafemi - Forward
6. Wout Weghorst - Forward

[Safron]

This is a list of the current first team squad

**Goalkeepers:**

1. James Trafford - Goalkeeper
2. Lawrence Vigouroux - Goalkeeper
3. Arijanet Muric - Goalkeeper
4. Bailey Peacock-Farrell - Goalkeeper

**Defenders:**

1. Dara O’Shea - Defender
2. Charlie Taylor - Defender
3. Jordan Beyer - Defender
4. CJ Egan-Riley - Defender
5. Connor Roberts - Defender
6. Hjalmar Ekdal - Defender
7. Vitinho - Defender
8. Ameen Al-Dakhil - Defender
9. Owen Dodgson - Defender
10. Maxime Estève - Defender
11. Hannes Delcroix - Defender
12. Luke McNally - Defender

**Midfielders:**

1. Josh Brownhill - Midfielder
2. Manuel Benson - Midfielder
3. Nathan Redmond - Midfielder
4. Sander Berge - Midfielder
5. Aaron Ramsey - Midfielder
6. Josh Cullen - Midfielder
7. Darko Churlinov - Midfielder
8. Luca Koleosho - Midfielder
9. Mike Trésor - Midfielder
10. Han-Noah Massengo - Midfielder
11. Wilson Odobert - Midfielder
12. Samuel Bastien - Midfielder
13. Dara Costelloe - Midfielder
14. Scott Twine - Midfielder

**Forwards:**

1. Jay Rodriguez - Forward
2. Lyle Foster - Forward
3. Anass Zaroury - Forward
4. Zeki Amdouni - Forward
5. Michael Obafemi - Forward
6. Wout Weghorst - Forward

Wow that's incredible how on earth do you reduce the squad of that size, and why the hell did pace let VK have a free reign absolute madness

[Hibsclaret]

That squad is by far the best squad in the Championship. If someone can trim the fat and get a tune out of that it is very exciting tbh.

[Andingle]

I'd say we still need at minimum a LeftBack and a Forward adding to that squad

[claretspice]

This is a list of the current first team squad

**Goalkeepers:**

1. James Trafford - Goalkeeper
2. Lawrence Vigouroux - Goalkeeper
3. Arijanet Muric - Goalkeeper
4. Bailey Peacock-Farrell - Goalkeeper

**Defenders:**

1. Dara O’Shea - Defender
2. Charlie Taylor - Defender
3. Jordan Beyer - Defender
4. CJ Egan-Riley - Defender
5. Connor Roberts - Defender
6. Hjalmar Ekdal - Defender
7. Vitinho - Defender
8. Ameen Al-Dakhil - Defender
9. Owen Dodgson - Defender
10. Maxime Estève - Defender
11. Hannes Delcroix - Defender
12. Luke McNally - Defender

**Midfielders:**

1. Josh Brownhill - Midfielder
2. Manuel Benson - Midfielder
3. Nathan Redmond - Midfielder
4. Sander Berge - Midfielder
5. Aaron Ramsey - Midfielder
6. Josh Cullen - Midfielder
7. Darko Churlinov - Midfielder
8. Luca Koleosho - Midfielder
9. Mike Trésor - Midfielder
10. Han-Noah Massengo - Midfielder
11. Wilson Odobert - Midfielder
12. Samuel Bastien - Midfielder
13. Dara Costelloe - Midfielder
14. Scott Twine - Midfielder

**Forwards:**

1. Jay Rodriguez - Forward
2. Lyle Foster - Forward
3. Anass Zaroury - Forward
4. Zeki Amdouni - Forward
5. Michael Obafemi - Forward
6. Wout Weghorst - Forward

I don't think anyone would choose such a flabby squad but I think it can be an opportunity. Even if the club cracks on with a few sales (as it should) the new manager will inherit a talented squad that will offer lots of options to the new manager in terms of who he retains and discards.

[ClaretLoup]

Now and again I find I can’t get to sleep at night. However I found a good cure for any temporary insomnia. I start off counting our centre backs and then move on to our wingers. By the time I’ve got through either our midfielders or forwards, lo & behold its morning already.

[Benson]

Goalkeepers:**

1. James Trafford - Goalkeeper Sell
2. Lawrence Vigouroux - Goalkeeper
3. Arijanet Muric - Goalkeeper
4. Bailey Peacock-Farrell - Goalkeeper Sell

**Defenders:**

1. Dara O’Shea - Defender
2. Charlie Taylor - Defender
3. Jordan Beyer - Defender Sell if he wants to leave
4. CJ Egan-Riley - Defender Loan/Sell
5. Connor Roberts - Defender
6. Hjalmar Ekdal - Defender
7. Vitinho - Defender
8. Ameen Al-Dakhil - Defender
9. Owen Dodgson - Defender Loan
10. Maxime Estève - Defender
11. Hannes Delcroix - Defender
12. Luke McNally - Defender Sell

**Midfielders:**

1. Josh Brownhill - Midfielder
2. Manuel Benson - Midfielder
3. Nathan Redmond - Midfielder
4. Sander Berge - Midfielder
5. Aaron Ramsey - Midfielder
6. Josh Cullen - Midfielder
7. Darko Churlinov - Midfielder Loan/Sell
8. Luca Koleosho - Midfielder
9. Mike Trésor - Midfielder
10. Han-Noah Massengo - Midfielder
11. Wilson Odobert - Midfielder
12. Samuel Bastien - Midfielder Sell
13. Dara Costelloe - Midfielder Release
14. Scott Twine - Midfielder Sell

**Forwards:**

1. Jay Rodriguez - Forward Release
2. Lyle Foster - Forward
3. Anass Zaroury - Forward
4. Zeki Amdouni - Forward
5. Michael Obafemi - Forward
6. Wout Weghorst - Forward Sell

[Darnhill Claret]

I would like a forward who is good in the air, or that elusive goalscoring midfielder.

Dear Santa.

[ClaretTony]

And someone I didn't even include on the list - Scott Parker - is now the favourite

[Clive 1960]

I do wonder how anyone can work with this current squad. We have far too many players, it’s downright ridiculous how many we have. We need someone who can help move a load of them on and then reshape from those who remain with a small number of potential new signings.

only 2 people to blame for having a squad of players like that..

[claretcarrot93]

only 2 people to blame for having a squad of players like that..

How dare they leave us with a young talented squad.

[Hapag Lloyd]

And someone I didn't even include on the list - Scott Parker - is now the favourite

Scott Parker has the worst points per game record (0.77) in the Premier League than any other manager who has managed a minimum of 50 games.
Kompany (0.63) and Edwards (0.68) have worse records but didn’t reach the 50 game cut off.

[bfcjg]

And someone I didn't even include on the list - Scott Parker - is now the favourite

Thanks for ruining my day ! How the hell can any of us compete with those cardigans ?

[Goliath]

Not sure, but I think French is now the predominant language spoken within our squad now.
Are there any French speaking managers out there that we might be interested in ?
I seem to recall R Hodgson was fluent in French.

This is ridiculous of they were allowed to speak primarily French at the training ground. No wonder there were cliques of that was the case.
There 100% should be rules in place to ensure that the predominant language being communicated in is English.

[FCBurnley]

What a total shambles of a club right now ! Huge and difficult decision to be made. Get it right and we can be ok. Get it wrong and the result could be catastrophic. Does Pace have the experience to get it right this time ? Personally I think we need a proven and experienced manager this time around so for me Moyes would be our best option but I can’t see him finding us an attractive opportunity
Turbulent times at The Turf for sure

[CoolClaret]

This is ridiculous of they were allowed to speak primarily French at the training ground. No wonder there were cliques of that was the case.
There 100% should be rules in place to ensure that the predominant language being communicated in is English.

Some may pull you up on this but it's absolutely true.

It's all well and good giving VK the freedom to sign whoever he wants but as I and others suggested when the madness started, where does it leave us if he was to leave?

[Goliath]

Some may pull you up on this but it's absolutely true.

It's all well and good giving VK the freedom to sign whoever he wants but as I and others suggested when the madness started, where does it leave us if he was to leave?

Yep I was expecting a few silly comments accusing me of being racist etc which is nonsense.
It's got to be one of the main concerns of buying predominately foreign players, if they all start communicating in different languages then you will obviously have big divides in the dressing room.

It's not necessarily any of the players fault but naturally they will want to communicate in a language they feel most comfortable in, so it needs to be set in stone what's expected when they sign. It sounds like it hasn't been.

[Murger]

Please god not Scott(y) Parker.

[CoolClaret]

Yep I was expecting a few silly comments accusing me of being racist etc which is nonsense.
It's got to be one of the main concerns of buying predominately foreign players, if they all start communicating in different languages then you will obviously have big divides in the dressing room.

It's not necessarily any of the players fault but naturally they will want to communicate in a language they feel most comfortable in, so it needs to be set in stone what's expected when they sign. It sounds like it hasn't been.

Yeah and it'd be fine if we had a manager and backroom staff that were multi-lingual and could still keep a strongly knit unit together but if they were to go... Well that's the position in which we find ourselves.

[fidelcastro]

Scott(y) Parker?

Please God no!!!



Edit: Murger beat me to it!