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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 28, 2024 4:48 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:44 pm
Not sure it’s as straight forward as that Vegas,

I remember there was quite a significant bust up between him and the players (as well as a few coaches). If memory serves I think they briefly touched on it during an interview with his assistant manager after he left where he effectively said the role was untenable due to this falling out with the players.

Which is strange because it looks like he had quite a successful time there.

Must admit though not sure he’s even on ALKs list.

Seems like Lampard is the one
This isn’t sarcastic but you seem to have some decent knowledge of European managers, is Raphael Wicky ever been someone you have thought or heard much of before?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 28, 2024 4:51 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:44 pm
Not sure it’s as straight forward as that Vegas,

I remember there was quite a significant bust up between him and the players (as well as a few coaches). If memory serves I think they briefly touched on it during an interview with his assistant manager after he left where he effectively said the role was untenable due to this falling out with the players.

Which is strange because it looks like he had quite a successful time there.

Must admit though not sure he’s even on ALKs list.

Seems like Lampard is the one
yeah I suspect/recollect something similar too. I'd go for Ruud long before Lampard

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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 28, 2024 4:52 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:48 pm
This isn’t sarcastic but you seem to have some decent knowledge of European managers, is Raphael Wicky ever been someone you have thought or heard much of before?
Only watched them a few times and that was in the Europa league.

Funnily enough last game I saw was against Amorim (sporting Lisbon) because that was a manager I wanted to take over VK back in January.

Play nice attacking football. Not sure it would work very well with our squad though, they play a relatively narrow 442 in diamond shape. Would mean getting rid of a lot of our wingers
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 28, 2024 4:52 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:44 pm
Not sure it’s as straight forward as that Vegas,

I remember there was quite a significant bust up between him and the players (as well as a few coaches). If memory serves I think they briefly touched on it during an interview with his assistant manager after he left where he effectively said the role was untenable due to this falling out with the players.

Which is strange because it looks like he had quite a successful time there.

Must admit though not sure he’s even on ALKs list.

Seems like Lampard is the one
Alexander blessin that you have mentioned before has jumped to 16/1 on sky bet

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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 28, 2024 4:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:51 pm
yeah I suspect/recollect something similar too. I'd go for Ruud long before Lampard
Don’t disagree with that.

I actually think he fits ALKs model for a manager perfectly

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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 28, 2024 4:54 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:52 pm
Alexander blessin that you have mentioned before has jumped to 16/1 on sky bet
Can see why, I would be amazed if he’s not on a shortlist by the club.

Fits ALKs model perfectly

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Re: Next manager

Post by AlargeClaret » Tue May 28, 2024 4:56 pm

Hopefully not Lampard , the guy’s an absolute Jonah. He was gifted a great Derby set up and fair do’s got them a play off final . Parachuted to a powerful Chelsea and about par to finish 4th in prem , next season disaster sacked in Jan when mid table , horrific time at Everton ( he looked utterly broken) then dumped after a very brief caretaker return to Chelsea .
Brilliant professional as a player but hasn’t created anything or exceeded his remit wherever he’s been .
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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 28, 2024 4:57 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:53 pm
Don’t disagree with that.

I actually think he fits ALKs model for a manager perfectly
Imagine, Ruud comes in, persuades Wout to stay and he scores 3 goals :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 28, 2024 5:04 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:57 pm
Imagine, Ruud comes in, persuades Wout to stay and he scores 3 goals :lol:
I would like to think he would be to attract players like Pavlidis in

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Re: Next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Tue May 28, 2024 5:11 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:56 pm
Hopefully not Lampard , the guy’s an absolute Jonah. He was gifted a great Derby set up and fair do’s got them a play off final . Parachuted to a powerful Chelsea and about par to finish 4th in prem , next season disaster sacked in Jan when mid table , horrific time at Everton ( he looked utterly broken) then dumped after a very brief caretaker return to Chelsea .
Brilliant professional as a player but hasn’t created anything or exceeded his remit wherever he’s been .
If Lampard is appointed it will be ALK’s Brian Laws moment and by far the worst managerial appointed since Laws . Would be an absolute disaster clueless appointment. Appointing a manager that virtually every fan doesn’t want will also create a very low threshold for discontent from the fans when things inevitably go wrong.

Burnley fans were very patient last season not shouting for VKs head when things were going badly. That patience wouldn’t be there next season with Lampard.
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Re: Next manager

Post by IanMcL » Tue May 28, 2024 5:20 pm

Anyone thinking of appointing Lampard, should just look at Everton and run.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Firthy » Tue May 28, 2024 5:27 pm

Definitely don't want any soft southerners like Lampard or Parker.

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue May 28, 2024 5:27 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:48 pm
Parker was a total disaster in Bruges, no clue whatsoever.

Wouldn’t touch him with a barge pole 🫣

Not convinced by Lampard either.

Van Nistelrooij hasn’t proven anything either
Come 2nd in the league so qualified for the champions league and won the Cup so you're right he's proven nothing :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pickles » Tue May 28, 2024 5:33 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 4:48 pm
Van Nistelrooij hasn’t proven anything either
Had Kompany when he got the Burnley job?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Enola Gay » Tue May 28, 2024 5:34 pm

Spike wrote:
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Bellamy and Jackson must be in contention
Christ, I hope not.
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Re: Next manager

Post by warksclaret » Tue May 28, 2024 5:39 pm

I think the choice AP and the Board make in the next manager will provide a clear indication of what he has learned from having VK at the helm for the past 22 or so months. It could of course be an opportunity to get the majority of our fans behind them, and reading this Board since news of VK's departure broke, a huge amount of our posters seem to favour several names that are being quoted, and many would be happy with either

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Re: Next manager

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue May 28, 2024 5:46 pm

If it's Lampard i will despair!........He's clueless..on a par with Laws. NO NO NO!

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Re: Next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Tue May 28, 2024 5:49 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 5:20 pm
Anyone thinking of appointing Lampard, should just look at Everton and run.
Was with an Everton fan earlier today and they have absolutely no time for Lampard. Way way way behind Dyche and Moyes in his view.

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Tue May 28, 2024 5:50 pm

Van Nistelrooy is at least 'exciting' and comes with at least wining a trophy and is a 'name' that the board would probably like to use for marketing/advertising etc.

I do believe we should have Moyes/Cooper if possible, take the 'glam' off the appointment but have a decent operator in and just concentrate on being a football club.

But if we are to go left field then I and imagine the wider supporter base would get behind Ruud; I'd even appreciate the directness that's bound to come from him. Gives an edge having an ex United player as manager as well after having ex City - something else for the media to use.

Appointing either Lampard or Parker as the new manager, as another poster mentioned would be a significant disappointment for the fanbase. Neither candidate would generate the excitement and enthusiasm needed to rally the supporters after last season and if they failed to deliver results / the team's performance fell short of expectations the fans would run out of patience very quickly.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Tue May 28, 2024 5:53 pm

I’d be gutted with Lampard or Parker however I question if with of them had a season in the Premier League that was any worse than Kompany yet most of us would have been happy to have him remain at the helm.

Certainly not a supporter of either of them but I feel that we need a little bit of perspective here when we start comparing to Laws

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Re: Next manager

Post by Blyclaret » Tue May 28, 2024 5:56 pm

Both Parker and Lampard were available when we appointed Kompany. So I can’t see AP going for either this time either. Stay calm. Believe 😊
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Re: Next manager

Post by KlyBfc » Tue May 28, 2024 5:57 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 5:34 pm
Christ, I hope not.
I’ll second that.
Bellamy has no real track record as a manager and Jackson’s is pretty down tight blooming dismal bar a brief new manager bounce with us.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quicknick » Tue May 28, 2024 5:58 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 5:50 pm
Van Nistelrooy is at least 'exciting' and comes with at least wining a trophy and is a 'name' that the board would probably like to use for marketing/advertising etc.

I do believe we should have Moyes/Cooper if possible, take the 'glam' off the appointment but have a decent operator in and just concentrate on being a football club.

But if we are to go left field then I and imagine the wider supporter base would get behind Ruud; I'd even appreciate the directness that's bound to come from him. Gives an edge having an ex United player as manager as well after having ex City - something else for the media to use.

Appointing either Lampard or Parker as the new manager, as another poster mentioned would be a significant disappointment for the fanbase. Neither candidate would generate the excitement and enthusiasm needed to rally the supporters after last season and if they failed to deliver results / the team's performance fell short of expectations the fans would run out of patience very quickly.
I agree with everything you say here, CC.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Fretters » Tue May 28, 2024 6:00 pm

The one thing I'll say for Lampard, he seems to work well with young players (Mount at Derby/Chelsea, Abraham etc.) and bring them on. He'd certainly have plenty to go at here.
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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 28, 2024 6:04 pm

Ruud would be an exciting left field, slightly risky type of appointment, but he does have at least 1 more than decent season at a large club. Haven’t seen much of his football but having just read a few articles it seems it would be a decent extension, albeit slight variation, on Kompany. Been no links though as far as I can tell?
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Re: Next manager

Post by FeedTheArf » Tue May 28, 2024 6:27 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 6:04 pm
Ruud would be an exciting left field, slightly risky type of appointment, but he does have at least 1 more than decent season at a large club. Haven’t seen much of his football but having just read a few articles it seems it would be a decent extension, albeit slight variation, on Kompany. Been no links though as far as I can tell?
Would be worth a go if only for being able to sing

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Re: Next manager

Post by KRBFC » Tue May 28, 2024 6:44 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
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What have I started with the van nistlerooy shouts, down to 6/1 now
It was actually me…..
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Re: Next manager

Post by Bosscat » Tue May 28, 2024 7:04 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 6:27 pm
Would be worth a go if only for being able to sing

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Tue May 28, 2024 7:19 pm

Raphael Wicky

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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 28, 2024 7:19 pm

Burnley could look to Raphael Wicky to replace Kompany.

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Tue May 28, 2024 7:25 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 7:19 pm
Burnley could look to Raphael Wicky to replace Kompany.

@graemebailey
This one has legs. Kealia played for Chicago Red Stars when Raphael was managing the Chicago Fire.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Tue May 28, 2024 7:26 pm

Rather have Sticky Vicky!
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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 28, 2024 7:28 pm

brexit wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 7:25 pm
This one has legs. Kealia played for Chicago Red Stars when Raphael was managing the Chicago Fire.
Certainly an interesting one.

Good manager but plays a completely different set up to the players we have in our squad

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Tue May 28, 2024 7:28 pm

First Vincent, then Raphael. Who next? How about former Brazilian ace Leonardo, or Pablo Zabaletta perhaps.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ArmchairDetective » Tue May 28, 2024 7:29 pm

Never thought I'd see Burnley involved with Wicky leaks. Interesting times. We need to be careful here.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 28, 2024 7:34 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 5:04 pm
I would like to think he would be to attract players like Pavlidis in
now, you know I'm going to have to google him ! :D

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Re: Next manager

Post by bobinho » Tue May 28, 2024 7:37 pm

NOT Lampard please Alan… come on, think about it.

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Tue May 28, 2024 8:01 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 7:26 pm
Rather have Sticky Vicky!
she was legendary on Mill Hill lane

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Re: Next manager

Post by Woonderbah » Tue May 28, 2024 8:03 pm

Just seen Mourinho in Greggs.. tight-lipped but that could've been the pasty
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Re: Next manager

Post by DCWat » Tue May 28, 2024 8:03 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 7:26 pm
Rather have Sticky Vicky!
:D :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Kevwando » Tue May 28, 2024 8:57 pm

🚨 EXCL: Steve Cooper in contention for managerial roles at a number of Premier League clubs. 44yo attracting significant interest & declined chance to pursue Burnley job amid ongoing discussions over current / potential top-flight vacancies @TheAthleticFC

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnmark » Tue May 28, 2024 8:58 pm

Cooper not interested
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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue May 28, 2024 9:03 pm

burnmark wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 8:58 pm
Cooper not interested
He's off to Leicester

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Re: Next manager

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue May 28, 2024 9:03 pm

Only Leicester and Brighton who would realistically go for him I would have thought.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Tue May 28, 2024 9:03 pm

Moyes gotta be next 1 in line, surely.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Swizzlestick » Tue May 28, 2024 9:04 pm

Only current PL vacancies are Leicester (maybe) and Brighton (I’d be surprised if they were interested). Looks like he’s happy to play the waiting game. Oh well, never mind.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Kevwando » Tue May 28, 2024 9:04 pm

I can’t imagine a “number” of clubs in the premier league are looking at Cooper.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Tue May 28, 2024 9:04 pm

That’s one ruled out then

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Tue May 28, 2024 9:05 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Tue May 28, 2024 9:03 pm
He's off to Leicester
11/1 on Skybet, fill yer boots.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue May 28, 2024 9:06 pm

Unless Leicester are going down the cooper route he must be banking on getting a job after first prem sacking

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