Next manager

[ClaretTony]

JJ Watt was/is a Chelsea fan so you can imagine he'll be keen on this.

As is Pace

[ClaretTony]

People were unenthusiastic when Dyche took over. Probably the same people.

I was talking to my Sunderland mate once when they appointed a manager he wasn’t too keen on.

I told him we were all underwhelmed when we appointed Sean Dyche and we were all excited when we appointed Chris Waddle.

[Tall Paul]

That's why he was sacked, because he did so well at each club. hmmm

Derby didn't sack him.

[agreenwood]

This is it for me. Lampard has been out of work for over a year at this point and I would be pretty certain he has not spent that time bettering himself as a manager (as if he had we would have media puff pieces put out by his agent, going into detail of which clubs and managers he's been working with and observing).

Instead he's most likely been enjoying the compensation payout from Everton, doing the odd bit of media work and waiting around in the assumption that his name will get him a decent job at a club stupid enough to only care about that without him having to put the effort in that much better coaches and managers without that cache do.

I pray we're not that club.

I’m not overly enthused about the prospect of Lampard taking over, but making negative assumptions on what someone with ongoing managerial ambitions has been doing for their own development over the last 12 month is just unfair.

[lakedistrictclaret]

The list of managers being linked with the job makes incredibly grim reading.

Most of them would be a disaster, Parker, Lampard, Rosenior, etc. all proven failures, sacked from every job they've had.

We need to aim a lot higher than these perennial losers.

Just for the record, Frank Lampard has had four managerial jobs in this country, and only been sacked from two of them.

[agreenwood]

Just for the record, Frank Lampard has had four managerial jobs in this country, and only been sacked from two of them.

…and for balance, neither club are currently renowned for their stability or patience.

[Mattster]

I’m not overly enthused about the prospect of Lampard taking over, but making negative assumptions on what someone with ongoing managerial ambitions has been doing for their own development over the last 12 month is just unfair.

If he'd been doing something, anything then we would know about it. It would be mentioned in any article linking him to any jobs. It would be put out there by his agent(s) in order to drum up interest. He would have mentioned it himself in his media/podcast appearances.

That there is no mention of it anywhere over the past year is telling.

[gandhisflipflop]

People were unenthusiastic when Dyche took over. Probably the same people.

I was gutted when we appointed Dyche, but once appointed our job as fans is to back the manager and give him time. I was delighted to be wrong about him.

[Murger]

Another way to look at it, he’s 45 and he’s had 4 managerial jobs already.

[MrTopTier]

Super Super Frank
Super Super Frank
Super Super Frank
Super Frankie Lampard.

[burnley007]

I was gutted when we appointed Dyche, but once appointed our job as fans is to back the manager and give him time. I was delighted to be wrong about him.

Dyche had had 1 job. He over achieved. He was sacked by fools. We knew that, but he was still an underwhelming choice at the time.

[Pearcey]

Another way to look at it, he’s 45 and he’s had 4 managerial jobs already.

VK is 38 and he’s had 3 jobs already. Not sure I get your point.

[JimmyRobbo]

Frank is not on my original list of 2.

I'm not sure I particularly like him. I didn't particularly want VK so nothing new there. Actually, I wasn't that keen on SD when he was appointed. The only recent appointment I really wanted was EH and that didn't turn out wonderfully well.

I'll get behind whoever we go with. There's nobody out there to tick every box.

[Murger]

VK is 38 and he’s had 3 jobs already. Not sure I get your point.

Well, he has no staying power for starters. When the going gets tough, Mr Lampard tends to struggle.

[Venkys4eva]

Well, he has no staying power for starters. When the going gets tough, Mr Lampard tends to struggle.

So does Mr Kompany

[Murger]

So does Mr Kompany

Very true. I expect the number of clubs VK will have by 45 to far exceed Lampards.

[Pearcey]

Well, he has no staying power for starters. When the going gets tough, Mr Lampard tends to struggle.

Whatever people say about him, he has never performed as poorly as VK did last season.

[Anonymous Claret]

I am another one who cannot understand all the negativity towards Lampard. He plays attractive attacking football, works well with young players, will have lots of decent contacts in the game, is very intelligent, his wife works in Manchester during the week and he has had several years management experience at PL and Championship level.

He did very well at Derby and just missed promotion to the PL by losing the play-off final. I though that he did reasonably well at Chelsea by blooding lots of young players due to the transfer embargo.

Everton is a complete basket case of a club and he struggled, especially in his second season. Dyche coming in saved Everton from relegation. I think that just goes to show how good a PL manager Dyche is and not necessarily how bad a manager Lampard is. Even Ancellotti didn't set the world on fire at Everton. Kompany who had previously had an amazing season in the Championship also struggled in the PL.

Lampard wouldn't be my first choice but if he is appointed he will have my full support. He is hardly Brian Laws

[Mattster]

Whatever people say about him, he has never performed as poorly as VK did last season.

Wrong.

Lampard's points per game in his last stint at Chelsea was 0.45.

VK's PL points per game with Burnley was 0.63.

So Lampard did do worse, with Chelsea's(!) squad than VK did with Burnley's.

[Stockbrokerbelt]

That's why he was sacked, because he did so well at each club. hmmm

Again what about Mourinho & Ancelotti?

[Pearcey]

Wrong.

Lampard's points per game in his last stint at Chelsea was 0.45.

VK's PL points per game with Burnley was 0.63.

So Lampard did do worse, with Chelsea's(!) squad than VK did with Burnley's.

He had 11 games after Potter was sacked. They were well on their way down when he took the job. VK had a whole season after spending over £100m. Hardly a comparison.

[Ric_C]

People were unenthusiastic when Dyche took over. Probably the same people.

Quite a lot on this board wanted Dyche out after I think it was a 0-0 or 1-0 defeat at Leeds. I remember quotes like "get out of our club" and the like

[xxmunkyennuixx]

You obviously aren’t anywhere near me then. I accept a lot stuck by him, and my post ain’t aimed at those. It’s more for those minority who unfortunately shout the loudest and ruin it for everyone else.

Longside Upper fairly central. Most stayed in their seats and didn't even leave early. I thought we were quite accepting overall. That's across the ground. It wasn't Laws level toxicity and I reckon Vinny got off lightly compared with other fanbase. It is why him leaving is so disappointing, we had actually done the right thing as a fanbase.

[RVclaret]

It’s already been mentioned elsewhere but the recent interview between Lampard and Steven Bartlett is worth a listen. Interesting views on having such a big squad at Chelsea and how unhelpful it is. So you’d imagine he’d be really keen on trimming ours asap. Also reflects on learning curves in management so far.

[AGENT_CLARET]

If its Lampard then we could get Fofana back

[lakedistrictclaret]

The appointment of VK was a step into the unknown. Although the first season was brilliant, overall it hasn't been a success.
I feel we now need a more experienced hand on the tiller. David Moyes ( my own preference ) would certainly provide this, but so would Lampard, or even Parker.

[Milltown1882]

Lampard now odds on 4/7 and Parker is 2nd favourite at 11/2.

[elwaclaret]

The appointment of VK was a step into the unknown. Although the first season was brilliant, overall it hasn't been a success.
I feel we now need a more experienced hand on the tiller. David Moyes ( my own preference ) would certainly provide this, but so would Lampard, or even Parker.

I agree with all this until the last three words. I really cannot take to Parker no matter how much I tried.

[lakedistrictclaret]

The problem with Parker, elwa, is that he doesn't seem to have much charisma. But I still think he'd have a good go at getting us up, if appointed.

[jedi_master]

What will be will be, and for what it’s worth my very good friend who is a Derby fan absolutely loved him. We have to back him if he gets it, otherwise we’ll be on a hiding to nothing.

[nil_desperandum]

I certainly wouldn't have any patience with him, a few bad results and the majority would be giving him grief, me included.
These appointments NEVER work out. Managers hired against the majority of fans' opinions will always fail. Always.

Which of our recent managers were backed by the MAJORITY of fans prior to being appointed?
Not Dyche for sure.
According to the poll on here none of the listed candidates is backed by the majority.
Lampard wouldn't be my first choice, but like the majority of our supporters, I'll give him my absolute total backing if he is appointed.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Wrong.

Lampard's points per game in his last stint at Chelsea was 0.45.

VK's PL points per game with Burnley was 0.63.

So Lampard did do worse, with Chelsea's(!) squad than VK did with Burnley's.

If you compare season for season. Lampard had a much better record at Everton than VK did with us in the prem

[Newcastleclaret93]

Super Super Frank
Super Super Frank
Super Super Frank
Super Frankie Lampard.

Got to be hired just for a new chant haha

[fidelcastro]

Has anyone ever seen his sex tape?

Asking for a friend.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I know I’m not the most positive on here, but I have got to say I would quite like the hiring of Lampard.

I don’t get the negativity around him.

One things for sure we will play some exciting football. Lampards style is better to watch and I think will suit us better in the premier league.

Got to imagine we will get the pick of the best young talent at Chelsea as well.

Ticks a lot of boxes

[Steddyman]

Bellamy acting manager:
https://x.com/bbclancssport/status/1796 ... 6QKwfgixkA

[pureclaret]

Nixon reporting we are interviewing Lampard today and just seen Pace at St Pancras so can only assume that the Lampard interview has legs.

Just seen him driving a landscaping wagon with grass rolls on it near the Preston England Temple, I think the grass looked like it was a mixed one of fibre and grass

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Lampard has a 9% win ratio from his last spell at Chelsea, , no thank you.

Even worse than Kompany at 13%

He’ll probably have Real Madrid calling soon

[Pearcey]

Lampard has a 9% win ratio from his last spell at Chelsea, , no thank you.

Even worse than Kompany at 13%

He’ll probably have Real Madrid calling soon

11 games as an interim manager after Potter was sacked. Chelsea were already in free fall. Only Tuchel has had a better win percentage since Lampard’s first spell.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

11 games as an interim manager after Potter was sacked. Chelsea were already in free fall. Only Tuchel has had a better win percentage since Lampard’s first spell.

Our owners are seriously dim if they appoint him No doubt about it.

His record is rubbish apart from the free hit he got when Chelsea were under embargo. Abramovich soon got rid the first chance he got.

[Mattster]

He had 11 games after Potter was sacked. They were well on their way down when he took the job. VK had a whole season after spending over £100m. Hardly a comparison.

Potter had the exact same team picking up 1.42 points per game. That squad cost significantly more than £100m. So he took a more expensive squad than VK had, that was performing OK and turned it into one in relegation form.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Knutsen has beaten quite a lot of good teams in Europe

Celtic 3-1 at their place and 6-1 against Roma in Norway

No one seems to get his opinion on if he wants to try another league, would be helpful!.

Doesn’t seem to want to leave Norway and his team plays some really good stuff , was looking on YouTube last night. Quite a few players stand out in his team also.

Don’t even think he’s on Paces radar like last time but should be if he actually wants to play good football.

Probably not a big enough name for his audiences.

[Mattster]

If you compare season for season. Lampard had a much better record at Everton than VK did with us in the prem

I'll look at his most recent stint in management where he took a side assembled for hundreds and hundreds of millions, that had been playing together for 27 games that season, with lots of Premier League experience, that had been picking up 1.42 points per game and across more than a quarter of a season picked up 0.45 points per game.

That's practically on a par with what Sheffield United did last season (0.42). With Chelsea's squad.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I'll look at his most recent stint in management where he took a side assembled for hundreds and hundreds of millions, that had been playing together for 27 games that season, with lots of Premier League experience, that had been picking up 1.42 points per game and across more than a quarter of a season picked up 0.45 points per game.

That's practically on a par with what Sheffield United did last season (0.42). With Chelsea's squad.

There’s quite a lot of context there that you’re ignoring.

If we did the same with VK he would never have been hired he came third in a two horse race two years on the trot at Anderlecht.

The best comparison is Lampards stint at Everton to VKs stint at Burnley.

I really don’t think Lampard is as bad an option as everyone is making out. I think he fits us quite well

[Quicknick]

I am another one who cannot understand all the negativity towards Lampard. He plays attractive attacking football, works well with young players, will have lots of decent contacts in the game, is very intelligent, his wife works in Manchester during the week and he has had several years management experience at PL and Championship level.

He did very well at Derby and just missed promotion to the PL by losing the play-off final. I though that he did reasonably well at Chelsea by blooding lots of young players due to the transfer embargo.

Everton is a complete basket case of a club and he struggled, especially in his second season. Dyche coming in saved Everton from relegation. I think that just goes to show how good a PL manager Dyche is and not necessarily how bad a manager Lampard is. Even Ancellotti didn't set the world on fire at Everton. Kompany who had previously had an amazing season in the Championship also struggled in the PL.

Lampard wouldn't be my first choice but if he is appointed he will have my full support. He is hardly Brian Laws

Good summmary, AC.

[williamjblazkowicz]

Just watched the 1 hour plus interview by Steven Bartlett (Dragon’s Den) with Frank Lampard last year. You know, just in case.

Was quite interesting. Does seem a decent guy, very private, family man, would find it hard living up here again I suspect. Married to a TV presenter, living in a big house, four kids from two relationships - it would beg the question how committed he would be for more than a year or so.

More interesting were the bits about coaching and motivation, keeping a squad happy. Seems to believe in a hardcore of players, a bit like our old Dyche signings. A hard taskmaster too. Made me think too, whoever we get, there should be as assistant manager someone who can speak a few languages, he said Cech was useful for that at Chelsea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEDzn83BxFo

I've been doing similar but with his appearance on The Overlap! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wazSpMEu3S0

[andyh]

Stats are useless in working out whether a manager would be good at Burnley in 2024. So many managers have returned to clubs where they have been successful and have fallen flat. It all depends on how he gels with the team and the club management/board.

He has the raw knowledge. Played at the highest level. As well connected as anyone. However that doesn’t have any bearing on whether he can select and motivate the players we have against Championship opposition. Let’s give him a chance and wait and see.

[Mattster]

There’s quite a lot of context there that you’re ignoring.

If we did the same with VK he would never have been hired he came third in a two horse race two years on the trot at Anderlecht.

The best comparison is Lampards stint at Everton to VKs stint at Burnley.

I really don’t think Lampard is as bad an option as everyone is making out. I think he fits us quite well

What context am I ignoring on that stint?

But let's look at Everton. He took over from the hated Benitez who was winning 1.14 points per game and over his term managed a wonderful 1 point per game... making him Everton's worst permanent manager since Kendall in 1997.

Before you criticise context, the season he picked up from Benitez his points per game was 1.11. So basically just the same, certainly did not improve them.

[Mattster]

And let's look at that great season at Derby. Took over from Rowett, who has a reputation for being a defensive manager and had managed them to a 6th place finish on 75 points, scoring 70 goals with a +22 goal difference.

Frank Lampard managed 6th place, with 74 points, scoring 69 goals and a +15 goal difference. No improvement.

[Andreshotboots]

Positive viewpoint from me. Lampard is clearly a very clever guy, and you'd like to think he's spent his time out of work to evaluate all his mistakes he made, learn from them and add that to some of the good work he undoubtedly did, in some cases in very difficult circumstances.

If it's Lampard, he'll get my total support from day one, and let's see what he produces.