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Re: Euro 2024

Post by expoultryboy » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:09 pm

He'll wait until we concede !

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Burnley Ace » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:09 pm

Bellingham looks disinterested and is just wandering around.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:09 pm

it's like watching 11 strangers

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:10 pm

Sometimes I just don’t know why they don’t just switch it up a bit and stop passing it about to keep the ball and just get to the line and drill it across

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Goalposts » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:10 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:00 pm
Said it many times, great players, crap team.

Southgate hasn't a clue. You can't fix a problem when you are the only person who can't see you've got one.

The most galling thing is all these pundits pulling us apart, but all frightened to lay the blame at the right door.
Spot on - he absolutely does not know how to put a team together . 3 players out of position - a striker that doesnt press but you want the team to press- that link will let you down. Foden and Kane - i dont think can play together .. TAA. - gives you nothing and in truth for so many individual stellar players. no leaders on the pitch. Southgate has learnt nothing in 6 years
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Dyched » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:10 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:09 pm
Bellingham looks disinterested and is just wandering around.
This is how he plays for R Madrid.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by bumba » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:12 pm

Southgates not the one
He don't turn me on

England's coming home again

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by bumba » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:12 pm

Going for it now super Gallagher on 😂😂😂😂

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:13 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:10 pm
Sometimes I just don’t know why they don’t just switch it up a bit and stop passing it about to keep the ball and just get to the line and drill it across
Trippier just had a crossing opportunity with 3 or 4 men in the box but as he is on the wrong side he checks back

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Goalposts » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:14 pm

Same sub as last game and i predict the sub will make the same impact as last week - needed to be a double sub - and for me id take Kane of

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by bfcjg » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:14 pm

Jack Grealish is a miss, he should have gone. He can turn a game.
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Goalposts » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:16 pm

I do wonder if we will see Braun Larsen on at some stage ?

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Robbie_painter » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:20 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:14 pm
Same sub as last game and i predict the sub will make the same impact as last week - needed to be a double sub - and for me id take Kane of
Problem with that is Watkins and Toney ain’t up to it at this level.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by NottsClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:21 pm

Every now and again we hear ‘i think I’d leave it to the professionals, they know more than some guy on the internet’ when we get critical of a manager.

But the fact Southgate took until the 2nd half of our second game to see what most people already knew, ie that you can’t suddenly drop a RB into centre midfield in a big tournament makes me wonder if they really are that smart.

And not including a left back in a 26 man squad.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:23 pm

Set up to deep, set up not to lose

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Robbie_painter » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:24 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:21 pm
Every now and again we hear ‘i think I’d leave it to the professionals, they know more than some guy on the internet’ when we get critical of a manager.

But the fact Southgate took until the 2nd half of our second game to see what most people already knew, ie that you can’t suddenly drop a RB into centre midfield in a big tournament makes me wonder if they really are that smart.

And not including a left back in a 26 man squad.
Not a dig but which left back would you have included in the squad? I’m presuming chilwell is injured?

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Goalposts » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:24 pm

Robbie_painter wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:20 pm
Problem with that is Watkins and Toney ain’t up to it at this level.
Yes , but you need movement , was thinking more eze - palmer - Gordon . Make defenders turn - face their own goal
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:25 pm

I'd take Bellingham off

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by expoultryboy » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:25 pm

Rice has been absolutely shocking

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by box_of_frogs » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:26 pm

Murger wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 5:48 pm
Same negative BS from Southgate.
Is BS a new code for ‘facts’?

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:26 pm

The pitch is ever so bumpy and it’s so so hot 🥵

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:27 pm

This really is from the same coaching manual as Kompany

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Robbie_painter » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:27 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:24 pm
Yes , but you need movement , was thinking more eze - palmer - Gordon . Make defenders turn - face their own goal
100 percent agree with that

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Goalposts » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:27 pm

expoultryboy wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:25 pm
Rice has been absolutely shocking
Rice is your holding midfielder - he cant go forward in the current set up

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:28 pm

I feel they’d struggle most with Gordon
Just simply because of his pace

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Goalposts » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:28 pm

Well Watkin’s will press at least

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:29 pm

That's right, take your best player off

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Milltown1882 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:29 pm

Standing up as a manager finally and making the bold move. Subbing off the players that have been awful is a good start.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:30 pm

Glad he's had the minerals to take Kane off tbh - he puts in performances like this regularly against decent centrebacks, just gets taken out of the game.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:30 pm

Swap 3 players who don't know what they are supposed to be doing, for another 3 players who don't know what they are supposed to be doing.
Tactical genius.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Milltown1882 » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:31 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:29 pm
That's right, take your best player off
A static striker vs one that will make angles and add pace and cut in behind. Perfect sub.
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Goalposts » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:32 pm

Of the subs id only question foden going off - he’s not been awful

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:33 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:29 pm
That's right, take your best player off
Kane best player :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:34 pm

I was talking about Foden lads

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by kentonclaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:34 pm

Probably having listened to the other pundits in the studio Shearer has changed his tune over Kane.
In the first half he was waxing lyrical over Kane after he scored arguing that he was critical to the team and had to be the first name on the team sheet.
Really, Watkins should be starting ahead of Kane if he is going to drop so deep.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:35 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:31 pm
A static striker vs one that will make angles and add pace and cut in behind. Perfect sub.
Realistically Kane should be a 10 and playing with a No 9 like Watkins that would make the runs and pull the defence back thus creating the space for Kane to collect the ball but not as deep as he is in this poor system

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:36 pm

Absolutely no reason why we can't start with Kane and Watkins. Useless is Southgate, shame he won't be going to United - would have been hilarious.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Rick_Muller » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:36 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:27 pm
This really is from the same coaching manual as Kompany
That was my conclusion too
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:36 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:33 pm
Kane best player :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
your mistake

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Buxtonclaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:37 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:36 pm
Absolutely no reason why we can't start with Kane and Watkins. Useless is Southgate, shame he won't be going to United - would have been hilarious.
I'd have bloody well loved that! :D

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:37 pm

across the two games, does anyone know how many shots on target we've had ?

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:38 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:37 pm
across the two games, does anyone know how many shots on target we've had ?
2?

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by jos » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:39 pm

I’d settle for a draw now 😒

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:39 pm

No 3?

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:39 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:36 pm
your mistake
You should of named him then so we'd not have to guess who you was talking about

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BleedingClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:40 pm

They’ve had basic footballing common sense coached out of them

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Robbie_painter » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:41 pm

The worrying thing is the Dane’s are very average.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by TPClaret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:41 pm

The sooner we see the back of Southgate the better.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:41 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:39 pm
You should of named him then so we'd not have to guess who you was talking about
well, Foden has been our best player, Kane resembled a road cone so.......
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:42 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 20, 2024 6:38 pm
2?
it feels like it's going to be around that number, so incredibly poor given the talent available

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