Next manager

[alf_resco]

89 pages on this thread.
And still no-one knows.
Reminds me of dear old Donald Rumsfeld.

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know."

[123EasyasBFC]

Everyone saying chill Bellamy was appointed interim for a reason. You have to wonder what mindset Bellamy has to coach a team through tough pre season when he knows the owners are looking for other options as manager

[Rowls]

Everyone saying chill Bellamy was appointed interim for a reason. You have to wonder what mindset Bellamy has to coach a team through tough pre season when he knows the owners are looking for other options as manager

Maybe he enjoys it?

Sometimes there isn't much to be gained from trying to second guess something unknowable.

[123EasyasBFC]

Maybe he enjoys it?

Sometimes there isn't much to be gained from trying to second guess something unknowable.

So there is no point of a fans forum then to constantly discuss the unknowable

[Raconteur]

I suppose it could have been had Sheff Utd and Brentford played will 11 rather than 10 for most of the game
Reckon at least one or our wins wouldn’t have occurred

Absolutely no chance that we would have failed to win against Sheffield United if they didn't have a player sent off.

We were 2-0 up, just abouts to go into half time before that sending off.

There was no chance of Sheffield United coming back into that game.

[Burnley Ace]

Everyone saying chill Bellamy was appointed interim for a reason. You have to wonder what mindset Bellamy has to coach a team through tough pre season when he knows the owners are looking for other options as manager

A professional one?

[RicardoMontalban]

Although in simple terms if they’re contracted to BFC, that’s where they stand. I think a lot of them are more professional than we give them credit for and will come in, work hard and see how things go.

There’s a scene in the film Moneyball where Jonah Hill’s character is agonising over having to tell a player he’s been traded, but the reality is players know they’re in an industry that is transitory. They move around, managers change, it’s the nature of the game and the differences in football are only superficial.

Fans get a little hung up on this and maybe don’t appreciate that the players know the score. Sure, there’ll be nuances around tactics etc, though I doubt we’re heading for any seismic shift, but I also doubt the players are sat home biting their nails wondering what the future holds and you’re right, they’re professionals and they probably get it.

[Jakubs Tash]

I’m going to guess that we hear who the successful candidate is in the next week.

Do you reckon……?

[CoolClaret]

There’s a scene in the film Moneyball where Jonah Hill’s character is agonising over having to tell a player he’s been traded, but the reality is players know they’re in an industry that is transitory. They move around, managers change, it’s the nature of the game and the differences in football are only superficial.

Fans get a little hung up on this and maybe don’t appreciate that the players know the score. Sure, there’ll be nuances around tactics etc, though I doubt we’re heading for any seismic shift, but I also doubt the players are sat home biting their nails wondering what the future holds and you’re right, they’re professionals and they probably get it.

Worth noting that Baseball/American sports in general are extremely different and have a lot more trades, due to not having transfer fees and the fact that players can be traded for draft picks - which is where the teams sign the best young talent from every season... Those sports are a heck of a lot more mercenary.

The only players that tend to stay on a team for a long time tend to be the highest paid/star players.

[roperclaret]

Everyone saying chill Bellamy was appointed interim for a reason. You have to wonder what mindset Bellamy has to coach a team through tough pre season when he knows the owners are looking for other options as manager

Maybe he has no ambition to be the permanent manager, but is happy to help out the club until the new man comes in

[RicardoMontalban]

Worth noting that Baseball/American sports in general are extremely different and have a lot more trades, due to not having transfer fees and the fact that players can be traded for draft picks - which is where the teams sign the best young talent from every season... Those sports are a heck of a lot more mercenary.

The only players that tend to stay on a team for a long time tend to be the highest paid/star players.

Of course, there are differences in the way the sports operate when it comes to player trading, but there’s the fundamental similarity that players do move around, often at the behest of the clubs, and managers do change. Players get that transitory nature of the business.

The mechanics of how it happens in football may be different to American sports, but from a player point of view, it’s not that different.

[kentonclaret]

Burnley now double the price of Leeds to win the Championship at around 7/1 - 8/1, largely due I suspect to the uncertainty surrounding the appointment of a new manager.

[DCWat]

Burnley now double the price of Leeds to win the Championship at around 7/1 - 8/1, largely due I suspect to the uncertainty surrounding the appointment of a new manager.

The huge deal from Red Bull won’t do them any harm either.

[Darnhill Claret]

So our price hasn't shifted then.

[roperclaret]

Burnley now double the price of Leeds to win the Championship at around 7/1 - 8/1, largely due I suspect to the uncertainty surrounding the appointment of a new manager.

Largely due to the fact that there are a lot more Leeds fans betting on their own team

[kentonclaret]

The huge deal from Red Bull won’t do them any harm either.

Exactly, they now have wings

[123EasyasBFC]

Maybe he has no ambition to be the permanent manager, but is happy to help out the club until the new man comes in

So he’s been interviewed for a position he doesn’t want

[mdd2]

Absolutely no chance that we would have failed to win against Sheffield United if they didn't have a player sent off.

We were 2-0 up, just abouts to go into half time before that sending off.

There was no chance of Sheffield United coming back into that game.

I did say at least one or the two, viz Brentford but we have lost 2-0 leads before and will do again

[mdd2]

Remember 14/15 season two consecutive games at home 2-0 up lost 2-3 to Palace and drew 2-2 WBA?
Just had to check the year

[TsarBomba]

Fab saying RVN wanted by Man Utd as part of back room staff.

[northeastclaret]

Fab saying RVN wanted by Man Utd as part of back room staff.

They took the time to work that one out if it’s true

[RVclaret]

Ruud is 48 now and has already spent 5 years as a coach at PSV and just one season as manager. I guess it will say a lot of his managerial ambitions if he was to choose coach at United over us? Even Kieran McKenna went from being a United coach to League One Ipswich. Having said all that perhaps this story has been put out by his agents to give us a nudge, who knows.

[fatboy47]

Fab saying RVN wanted by Man Utd as part of back room staff.

If he hasnt the confidence to skipper his own ship then hes not what we need.

[gandhisflipflop]

Fab saying RVN wanted by Man Utd as part of back room staff.

Might be a ploy to get us to hurry our decision. Even if they did want him, managing may be more appealing to him.

[Blyclaret]

If this is true … that’s us done.
Makes sense now why Pace has flown out to see Bellamy.

[Raconteur]

If this is true … that’s us done.
Makes sense now why Pace has flown out to see Bellamy.

Out of curiosity, where has Pace flown to?

[South West Claret.]

After me mentioning Flynny earlier I’ve just seen what Dobbo has been up to and found this which I hadn’t seen before.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/s ... ball-club/

What might have been if Dobson had been treated better by Burnley I’m thinking.

[ClaretInLeeds]

Out of curiosity, where has Pace flown to?

Rhyl

[123EasyasBFC]

If this is true … that’s us done.
Makes sense now why Pace has flown out to see Bellamy.

Why would pace need to fly out to tell Bellamy that, seeing him at training ground on Monday

[Raconteur]

Rhyl

[Murger]

A season of dread awaits if Bellamy gets the nod.

[Rowls]

So there is no point of a fans forum then to constantly discuss the unknowable

"only so much to be gained" =/= "no point"

[Raconteur]

Why would pace need to fly out to tell Bellamy that, seeing him at training ground on Monday

This forum gets better and better.

Its quite bizarre.

I am falling to understand why Pace would need to inform Bellamy of a rumour.

Pace - " Hey Bellars, have you seen that rumour on twitter about Man United wanting RVN as part of their set up.

Bellamy -" I told you not to trust that Charlatan. Where do you want me to sign "

[123EasyasBFC]

This forum gets better and better.

Its quite bizarre.

I am falling to understand why Pace would need to inform Bellamy of a rumour.

Pace - " Hey Bellars, have you seen that rumour on twitter about Man United wanting RVN as part of their set up.

Bellamy -" I told you not to trust that Charlatan. Where do you want me to sign "

To me the only logical reason to fly out to see Bellamy would be to give him news in person that they have decided to go in a certain direction and understand if he wants to leave but if he wants to stay there’s a coaching role for him

[kentonclaret]

Fab saying RVN wanted by Man Utd as part of back room staff.

With that news you would have expected the price on RVN being appointed Burnley boss to have drifted but instead it has shortened. Now 2/1 with Sky Bet.

[Steddyman]

If this is true … that’s us done.
Makes sense now why Pace has flown out to see Bellamy.

Where has this myth come from?

[123EasyasBFC]

With that news you would have expected the price on RVN being appointed Burnley boss to have drifted but instead it has shortened. Now 2/1 with Sky Bet.

2/1 before that news,

So many conflicting stories and we never know how far behind the curve articles are. Mirror saying RVN waiting for us to decide and has a database of players who will fit our budget

But then Romano saying RVN will decide next week.

I understand the thinking of going to United and if ten Haag has a collapse he could well see himself in caretaker charge but surely if they sack ten Haag they would also sack the staff he brought in to and start fresh

[Darnhill Claret]

When the books were opened on the Championship, Leeds were put in as a general 4/1 with Burnley 7/1 and 8/1 in places. I have a feeling that those will remain roughly the same unless there is a flurry of unusual transfer activity, ins and outs, until after the first round of games.

[ClaretTony]

Thanks CT and earning a nice wage as well by the looks of it https://fmtransferupdate.com/staff/2020368-brian-flynn

If you chose to believe that I suppose

[alf_resco]

That article is 10 yrs old.

[alf_resco]

To clarify I was referring to the post by SW Claret with "news" of Dobbo.

[Royboyclaret]

First post on this thread.....be patient, Ruudboy is waiting to happen.

[burnley007]

First post on this thread.....be patient, Ruudboy is waiting to happen.

I really hope so.

[Holtyclaret]

Where was this said? I have not seen any timeline mentioned by anyone from the club.

It wasn’t direct from the club but ‘quoted’ by Nixon/athletic/farbrizio or similar right back around start of June (not long after jj video message).

Rang pretty ‘true’ at the time and I’ve kept it in mind throughout and appears to be the timescale that’s playing out if reports that rvn has been interviewed twice now are accurate.

Second interviews being conducted would suggest we’re close to offering / have offered the role to someone.

I had a Quick Look back for a link but it’s lost in a minefield of posts and speculation from the last month.

[It Is What It Is]

As soon as Bells sees AP and knows who the manager is defo going to be...he's off to the bookies with several suitcases full of cash ..or is that being cynical

[Jakubs Tash]

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Is Sacha teasing us for clicks…..

[Royboyclaret]

It's being cynincal.....there's only one outcome now....see post above.

[burnley007]

VAN NISTELROOY SET TO BECOME BURNLEY BOSS

Ruud Van Nistelrooy is set to become the new Burnley manager despite interest from Manchester United who wanted to make him part of Erik Ten Hag’s backroom staff.

Source - Sacha Tavolieri - Tier 2

[ervi34]

VAN NISTELROOY SET TO BECOME BURNLEY BOSS

Ruud Van Nistelrooy is set to become the new Burnley manager despite interest from Manchester United who wanted to make him part of Erik Ten Hag’s backroom staff.

Source - Sacha Tavolieri - Tier 2

Might be an error in translation, but I don't think he said that.

[Swizzlestick]

That isn’t what he tweeted.