Next manager

[kentonclaret]

RVN currently 8/1 with Sky Bet to become next Burnley manager.
So, if it really is 50/50 as some will have us believe not a bad price at all.

[Holtyclaret]

Which manager worth his salt would have a coach forced on him ? and that's with potting Bellamy and Jackson. The coach we have just hired must have been told what his role going to be ? What if the new guy has his trusted guy to bring along in that same role ? Just abit weird

The days of a manager bringing an entourage with him are drawing to an end with more clubs moving to a head coach role that often inherits back room staff including coaches and sometimes deputy’s.

New bloke isn’t necessarily the ‘managers’ deputy but just one of a few first team assistant coaches (needed anyway after two left with vk).

Fully expect new man to bring their own deputy or give Bellamy or the new chap the role and help plug gaps in backroom team like us needing a gk coach.

[ClaretTony]

The days of a manager bringing an entourage with him are drawing to an end with more clubs moving to a head coach role that often inherits back room staff including coaches and sometimes deputy’s.

New bloke isn’t necessarily the ‘managers’ deputy but just one of a few first team assistant coaches (needed anyway after two left with vk).

Fully expect new man to bring their own deputy or give Bellamy or the new chap the role and help plug gaps in backroom team like us needing a gk coach.

Jensen was coming in as Bellamy’s replacement so a senior coaching position

[123EasyasBFC]

Jensen was coming in as Bellamy’s replacement so a senior coaching position

Do you think it’s a case of we simply couldn’t get out of the Jensen deal?

[NewClaret]

Jensen was coming in as Bellamy’s replacement so a senior coaching position

Must be so weird for Bellamy working with his replacement. Well done to him for doing that.

[pauliopaulio]

RVN currently 8/1 with Sky Bet to become next Burnley manager.
So, if it really is 50/50 as some will have us believe not a bad price at all.

Wouldn’t be surprised if that shortens quite quickly - was 16/1 with VC earlier today and now 5/1

Doesn’t mean much as a bit of money will dramatically affect the price due to it being a small market but the noises coming out of Utd sources seems have to dampened in the last 24 hours

[HahaYeah]

The timbre of these articles coming out today has definitely changed.

'There might be a couple of hurdles in the way, though, if United are intent on bringing the Dutchman back. Firstly, Van Nistelrooy has been heavily linked with the vacant managerial job at Burnley in recent weeks, and the chance to return to management could be more appealing for the former PSV Eindhoven boss.

Secondly, Van Nistelrooy has previously been publicly critical of Ten Hag. That could mean some tension between the two, not ideal for what the club would hope would be a productive and fruitful working relationship.'

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/van-ni ... ter-united

[Holtyclaret]

Jensen was coming in as Bellamy’s replacement so a senior coaching position

Yes but I’m sure there will have been further discussion since. Along the lines of ‘do you still want to join us if we can’t guarantee you’ll end up as number 2 because we’d like you regardless’.

I wouldn’t think that if the new manager wants to bring their own deputy in, it would be a deal breaker or signify Jensen feeling aggrieved in any way. I’m sure things are in hand and there is a hierarchy of sorts being worked to.

[Raconteur]

Yes but I’m sure there will have been further discussion since. Along the lines of ‘do you still want to join us if we can’t guarantee you’ll end up as number 2 because we’d like you regardless’.

I wouldn’t think that if the new manager wants to bring their own deputy in, it would be a deal breaker or signify Jensen feeling aggrieved in any way. I’m sure things are in hand and there is a hierarchy of sorts being worked to.

Agreed, it's very common at a lot of clubs.
Fulham for example, Marco Silva brought in Luis Boa Morte(now left) as an assistant coach while also keeping on Stuart Gray as an assistant coach (a position he has kept with the last 3 Fulham managers)

[123EasyasBFC]

Agreed, it's very common at a lot of clubs.
Fulham for example, Marco Silva brought in Luis Boa Morte(now left) as an assistant coach while also keeping on Stuart Gray as an assistant coach (a position he has kept with the last 3 Fulham managers)

That’s only 2 coaches, we would have a new manager with their own assistant, Hendrik Jensen and Mike Jackson unless Jackson left with Bellamy

[Raconteur]

That’s only 2 coaches, we would have a new manager with their own assistant, Hendrik Jensen and Mike Jackson unless Jackson left with Bellamy

Maybe that's because i only mentioned them 2 coaches.

Fulham do have more than 2 coaches.

We had more than that under Kompany (how many coaches was it in total)

The assistant coach is not necessarily the 2nd in command.

[123EasyasBFC]

Maybe that's because i only mentioned them 2 coaches.

Fulham do have more than 2 coaches.

We had more than that under Kompany (how many coaches was it in total)

I thought you were referring to Fulham having 2 assistants rather than just coaches that’s why I said we would still need to lose one more after Bellamy

[Holtyclaret]

That’s only 2 coaches, we would have a new manager with their own assistant, Hendrik Jensen and Mike Jackson unless Jackson left with Bellamy

Every possibility Jackson and Bellamy may leave.

But we were two coaches down plus gk coach anyways as things stood.

It’ll be interesting how things plan out but it really isn’t a biggie and there’s no doubt lots going on in the background none of which any of us are privy to but I’m sure Jensen,cb and mj are.

[Raconteur]

I thought you were referring to Fulham having 2 assistants rather than just coaches that’s why I said we would still need to lose one more after Bellamy

I am also presuming whoever comes in as 2nd in command will have the title of Assistant Head Coach.

[BB4Claret]

Tbh, I kind of hope that RVN does go to Man Utd. Looking at the ESPN report on his departure from PSV, he might not be the right guy to sort out our bloated squad and keep a unified dressing room, which will be so important if we aspire to an immediate return to the Premier League.
If he does go to Utd, we may be dodging a bullet.

https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_ ... yer-revolt

[burnley007]

I've never really seen any indication from anywhere that Parker will get the job.

[123EasyasBFC]

I am also presuming whoever comes in as 2nd in command will have the title of Assistant Head Coach.

Yeah managers own assistant and Jensen and Jackson assistant first team coaches maybe

We still need a goalkeeper coach

[SirBob]

If I went down to the bookies now and put £1000 of burnley007 becoming the next manager of Burnley FC he’d be on the list of candidates! Do people not understand how bookies work?

[burnley007]

If I went down to the bookies now and put £1000 of burnley007 becoming the next manager of Burnley FC he’d be on the list of candidates! Do people not understand how bookies work?

Please please please do it.

[Elizabeth]

Do you think it’s a case of we simply couldn’t get out of the Jensen deal?

If as rumoured he is in a senior coaching position it does ask the question that has been asked so many times since the news broke.
How many managers would accept this restriction to their leadership ?
It’s not out of the question that Jensen will leave the club before he has started. I know that is a bit of a stretch but I think Pace & Co might be tying themselves in knots.
The other scenario is that they are in total control which hopefully is the case.

[brexit]

I have a tenner on wicky already because there have been no rumours about him here. I am going to put another tenner on, should push him to 3/1.

[ClaretinJapan]

Lansbury now a strong candidate.

[dsr]

What's Andrew Driver doing nowadays?

[dsr]

He will need to negotiate the best possible deal for himself and nobody can begrudge him that. Whether Van Nistelrooy is genuinely interested in becoming an assistant manager again rather than sticking to being the head coach, only he knows.'

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk ... t-29419739

If he needs to negotiate the best possible deal, he must have wasted a heck of a lot of money in his time. (Or else have several hundred children!)

[KRBFC]

I have a tenner on wicky already because there have been no rumours about him here. I am going to put another tenner on, should push him to 3/1.

At least it’s stopped you posting non stop about how genius Jesse Marsch is

[Clive 1960]

If we haven't got whoever in as manager i think we have to go with Bellamy and see how it goes ...

[jos]

I thought CB was off to grow Leeks.

[TheFamilyCat]

Leftfield thought here - could Jensen be in the running for the job?

He's come in as an assistant but maybe they want to have a look at how he starts pre-season with a view to promote him.

[HahaYeah]

If he needs to negotiate the best possible deal, he must have wasted a heck of a lot of money in his time. (Or else have several hundred children!)

I imagine it's a case of RVN having two irons in the fire rather than trying to squeeze every pound out of the situation but yeah it's a funny turn of phrase, seeing as (just googled) he's supposedly worth $30M.

We don't know who is waiting on who here, are BFC waiting for him to choose us or not or are BFC waiting on developments?

[burnley007]

I'd love to Alan Pace now, he's either stressed to bits, running around like a lunatic, or he's sitting chilling with it all under control...

[burnley007]

I'm surprised Alan Pace hasn't released a basic statement saying we are undergoing a thorough search but feel like the players are in safe hands with CB & MJ for pre season etc etc...

Just feels like good management.

[nil_desperandum]

If we haven't got whoever in as manager i think we have to go with Bellamy and see how it goes ...

Isn't that what we already have? .. or have I missed something.
As I understand it Bellamy is the acting head coach, and this will continue until he either finds another position or we make a permanent appointment. Even if it takes some time to get a full-time permanent manager / coach it's surely "business as usual" . He's arguably got the strongest squad in the Championship to work with.
Hopefully when an appointment is finally made then we will get the usual new manager bounce.
Of course, if Bellamy keeps winning games and the squad seem unified, then it would give Pace a decision to make.

[CleggHall]

Sounds promising then?!

[IanMcL]

If I went down to the bookies now and put £1000 of burnley007 becoming the next manager of Burnley FC he’d be on the list of candidates! Do people not understand how bookies work?

Do you know something we don't?
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink?

[willsclarets]

I'm more keen to get the manager in, or have some kind of indication of whether it's going to spill into the season, simply so I stop checking this thread.
I've started navigating to it without consciousness even though there hasn't been a scrap of news

[Guller Bull]

Could be a proper melt down day on this thread today for some. Fixtures are out and HAVEN'T EVEN GOT A MANAGER IN PLACE - THE CLUB IS A SHAMBLES etc etc ad nauseam

[South West Claret.]

I'm surprised Alan Pace hasn't released a basic statement saying we are undergoing a thorough search but feel like the players are in safe hands with CB & MJ for pre season etc etc...

Just feels like good management.

Would seem reasonable wouldn’t it.

[clarets1978]

I'm surprised Alan Pace hasn't released a basic statement saying we are undergoing a thorough search but feel like the players are in safe hands with CB & MJ for pre season etc etc...

Just feels like good management.

Im not sure why he needs to tell us that at all. Its obvious thats whats going on at the moment & all a statement saying that we still havent found a manager will do is create more bad press and have this board in more of a meltdown. They'll tell us when they have it sorted. Thats the only time we need to know

[Foshiznik]

What’s Derek Riordan up to nowadays?

[Blyclaret]

The only statement Pace needs to issue is …. To welcome the new manager.

[Conroy92]

Put 20 on RVN last night at 8's on will hills. Dropped to 6's immediately after. I just have a feeling.

[ClaretTony]

The club put out this statement on 30th May

Following the departure of Vincent Kompany, we are actively working on our search for a permanent manager. In the meantime, the Club has placed Craig Bellamy, assisted by Mike Jackson, in the roles of Acting Head Coach and Assistant Head Coach.

We have complete faith in Craig and Mike and believe their extensive experience and deep understanding of the Club make them the perfect candidates to lead the team at this important time.

We will provide further updates regarding a permanent manager in due course.

[TommyPicks]

Exciting times!

[ArmchairDetective]

Nothing more needed than that statement until they find their man. You make an announcement when there's something to announce.

[South West Claret.]

When ever RVN Is mentioned I think of Martin Bucham (spelling)

[fatboy47]

Surely the most logical scenario here is that we've reached an agreement with someone currently engaged at the Euros and nothing will be announced before his part in that tournament is finished. Hence avoiding disruption.

People have been appointed to keep things ticking over at Barnfield in the meantime.

Hardly rocket science.

[123EasyasBFC]

I know there’s been a lot of wind up posts but genuinely, lad at work today said he was talking to one of the junior coaches and that the club where preparing for RVN to be announced this week but then the United news thrown a spanner in the works but Pace is still trying. Not saying this lads news is gospel

You’d imagine it is still a very tough choice even though one role is just an assistant role

[RVclaret]

I know there’s been a lot of wind up posts but genuinely, lad at work today said he was talking to one of the junior coaches and that the club where preparing for RVN to be announced this week but then the United news thrown a spanner in the works but Pace is still trying. Not saying this lads news is gospel

You’d imagine it is still a very tough choice even though one role is just an assistant role

Enzo Maresca left City as Pep’s assistant to take over at Leicester. Kieran McKenna left United’s coaching team to take over at League One Ipswich. I don’t think it’s a very tough choice personally, we’ve got a very exciting team. But then it comes down to whether he has managerial ambitions or is happy just coaching.

[gandhisflipflop]

I genuinely don’t think the RVN deal is dead.

[kentonclaret]

If I went down to the bookies now and put £1000 of burnley007 becoming the next manager of Burnley FC he’d be on the list of candidates! Do people not understand how bookies work?

If you believe that bookmakers are taking bets of £1000+ from punters on these types of novelty markets it is obviously you who hasn’t a clue how bookies operate. The reason that Tory MP’s were only winning modest amounts on the date of the next General Election is because bet limits are in place. It only takes a modest amount to affect these markets because only small stakes are allowed.
Are the markets probably a more accurate guide than a lot of the stuff posted on this thread then probably yes.