Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[NewClaret]

This sambo lad looks good. Not sure how fast and tall he is which I think are prerequisites for the premier league and probably not as good as Assignon today but looks really high potential.

Need a LB now.

[BB4Claret]

This sambo lad looks good. Not sure how fast and tall he is which I think are prerequisites for the premier league and probably not as good as Assignon today but looks really high potential.

Need a LB now.

According to the t’internet, he’s 5ft 10 (1m74)

[NewClaret]

According to the t’internet, he’s 5ft 10 (1m74)

Yeah, looks about that. If I’m honest I think in the premier league we need 6ft-ers minimum across the back line. Hoping the new LB is a big lad.

I’d have absolutely loved Oosterwolde in January for that reason - always very unlikely, now linked with WHU for £21m - think he’ll do very well in the premier league.

[louieollie]

Yeah, looks about that. If I’m honest I think in the premier league we need 6ft-ers minimum across the back line. Hoping the new LB is a big lad.

I’d have absolutely loved Oosterwolde in January for that reason - always very unlikely, now linked with WHU for £21m - think he’ll do very well in the premier league.

Bit of a tedious myth I think myself....

Kieran Trippier 5,10
Ashley Cole 5,9
Luke Shaw 5,10

Just a quick look and those 3 haven't done too shabby being under 6ft have they.

[NewClaret]

Bit of a tedious myth I think myself....

Kieran Trippier 5,10
Ashley Cole 5,9
Luke Shaw 5,10

Just a quick look and those 3 haven't done too shabby being under 6ft have they.

Yes, all done well. Could also use TAA as a younger example. And of course if they’re as naturally talented as that group you can be that bit shorter but I still prefer taller defenders.

[roperclaret]

Yes, all done well. Could also use TAA as a younger example. And of course if they’re as naturally talented as that group you can be that bit shorter but I still prefer taller defenders.

Taller full backs can struggle up against smaller tricky wingers

[NewClaret]

Taller full backs can struggle up against smaller tricky wingers

Depends how fast they are themselves. I agree the big cumbersome once can, hence my reference to Oosterwolde who is both tall and absolutely rapid.

[Jakubs Tash]

Dewsbury-Hall to Chelsea for £30m. Only played a few times in the PL and had ONE decent season in the Championship. 25 years old.

Look at all the deals that are going through for relatively unknown players for £15-20m.

Why would Burnley sell Sander Berge for a fee in the region of £15m as some people suggest (and say we’d be lucky to even make a profit) when these are the fees that are being paid for either unknown youngsters or someone who did ok in the Championship?

Then tell

[warksclaret]

Dewsbury-Hall to Chelsea for £30m. Only played a few times in the PL and had ONE decent season in the Championship. 25 years old.

Look at all the deals that are going through for relatively unknown players for £15-20m.

Why would Burnley sell Sander Berge for a fee in the region of £15m as some people suggest (and say we’d be lucky to even make a profit) when these are the fees that are being paid for either unknown youngsters or someone who did ok in the Championship?

Then tell

Seen a lot of Dewsbury Hall at Leicester-he is a very good player, virtually a regular for Leicester for 3 seasons and played almost every PL game in those two seasons in the PL. For info Smith Rowe is for sale at around £25m-if he goes to the right club he could end up being a top investment. I think we will struggle to get over £18m for Berge. He has been for me our Player of the Season, but in the PL there are flaws to his game, and the majority of the PL has a strong squad pushing for places

[Vegas Claret]

I'd sell half the squad before even contemplating selling Sander

[Goody1975]

I'd sell half the squad before even contemplating selling Sander

That all depends on what the player himself wants to do.

Ideally our main players have the stomach for the fight but we can't afford to carry players in the squad who don't want to be here, it's a bigger recipe for disaster than any of the other issues we have.

[NewClaret]

I'd sell half the squad before even contemplating selling Sander

I agree with this. For me, only Muric, Esteve and Berge looked Premier League quality with Berge looking the cream of the crop.

[morninbob]

Dewsbury-Hall to Chelsea for £30m. Only played a few times in the PL and had ONE decent season in the Championship. 25 years old.

Look at all the deals that are going through for relatively unknown players for £15-20m.

Why would Burnley sell Sander Berge for a fee in the region of £15m as some people suggest (and say we’d be lucky to even make a profit) when these are the fees that are being paid for either unknown youngsters or someone who did ok in the Championship?

Then tell

Because that's not a true valuation, it's more psr fraud.

[Mark the Claret]

I'd sell half the squad before even contemplating selling Sander

We need to sell half the squad, far too many players, then just address the positions that need it.

[Bosscat]

Just read Peacock-Farrell gone to Birmingham for an undisclosed fee.

[Woodleyclaret]

Chelsea once bought a crap keeper for North of £80m

[claretskeith]

Just read Peacock-Farrell gone to Birmingham for an undisclosed fee.

Means we might have the mighty Muric this season. I hope.

[Murger]

Newcastle have just signed Odysseas Vlachodi from Forest. I’m guessing that’ll end the Trafford speculation.

[123EasyasBFC]

Newcastle have just signed Odysseas Vlachodi from Forest. I’m guessing that’ll end the Trafford speculation.

Losing karius and dubravka, maybe the guy from forest 3rd choice and Trafford as popes number 2

[Guller Bull]

So just for context this is the updated squad list courtesy of CT.

Still needs a hefty amount of trimming and doesn’t include any potential step ups from U21’s

You would expect a large number out of the door in the next few days/weeks.

Even with the expected departures it is still going to be a very competitive squad at Championship level one would think.

FIRST TEAM SQUAD

1 James Trafford Goalkeeper 10/10/2002 0 0 2027
2 Dara O’Shea Defender 04/03/1999 0 0 2027
3 Charlie Taylor Defender 18/09/1993 0 0 2024*
5 Jordan Beyer Defender 19/05/2000 0 0 2027
6 CJ Egan-Riley Defender 02/01/2003 0 0 2025
8 Josh Brownhill Midfielder 19/12/1995 0 0 2025
9 Jay Rodriguez Forward 29/07/1989 0 0 2025
10 Manuel Benson Midfielder 28/03/1997 0 0 2027
14 Connor Roberts Defender 23/09/1995 0 0 2025
15 Nathan Redmond Midfielder 06/03/1994 0 0 2025+
16 Sander Berge Midfielder 14/02/1998 0 0 2027
17 Lyle Foster Forward 03/09/2000 0 0 2028
18 Hjalmar Ekdal Defender 21/10/1998 0 0 2027
19 Anass Zaroury Forward 07/11/2000 0 0 2028
21 Aaron Ramsey Midfielder 21/01/2003 0 0 2028
22 Vitinho Defender 23/07/1999 0 0 2027
24 Josh Cullen Midfielder 07/04/1996 0 0 2026
25 Zeki Amdouni Forward 04/12/2000 0 0 2028
27 Darko Churlinov Midfielder 11/07/2000 0 0 2026
28 Ameen Al-Dakhil Defender 06/03/2002 0 0 2026
29 Lawrence Vigouroux Goalkeeper 19/11/1993 0 0 2026
30 Luca Koleosho Midfielder 15/09/2004 0 0 2027
31 Mike Trésor Midfielder 28/05/1999 0 0 u/k24
33 Maxime Estève Defender 26/05/2002 0 0 u/k24
42 Han-Noah Massengo Midfielder 07/07/2001 0 0 2027
44 Hannes Delcroix Defender 28/02/1999 0 0 2026
45 Michael Obafemi Forward 06/07/2000 0 0 u/k23
47 Wilson Odobert Midfielder 28/11/2004 0 0 2028
49 Arijanet Muric Goalkeeper 07/11/1998 0 0 2026
Samuel Bastien Midfielder 26/09/1996 0 0 2025
Dara Costelloe Midfielder 11/12/2002 0 0 2025
Owen Dodgson Defender 19/03/2003 0 0 2025
Luke McNally Defender 20/09/1999 0 0 2026
Scott Twine Midfielder 14/07/1999 0 0 2026
Wout Weghorst Forward 07/08/1992 0 0 2025
Shurandy Sambo Defender 19/08/2001 0 0 2028

[SirBob]

Can see us trying to offload at least 16 players off that list plus whoever we get bids for that we can turn down.

So possibly 20 players on their way out.

[ClaretInLeeds]

Can see us trying to offload at least 16 players off that list plus whoever we get bids for that we can turn down.

So possibly 20 players on their way out.

That would leave us with 17 players. I can't see more than 5/6 moving on unless we get a decent fee for them.

[NewClaret]

That would leave us with 17 players. I can't see more than 5/6 moving on unless we get a decent fee for them.

I get it as 16 players left, but either way, we’re not going to be moving 20 on.

I’ll go for 10 outgoings, mainly players who’ve been on loan and therefore weren’t part of last years squad anyway.

[SirBob]

20 players out of course would be the ideal situation, for me at least. I obviously know that’s not what happens in the real world, I’d expect us to lose at least 8 out on loan plus a few out permanently for fees then the players we can’t hold onto because of big fees like Trafford and Berge etc

So at least a dozen but 20 in an ideal world. I think a high turnover of players is part of our business model.

[ClaretInLeeds]

I get it as 16 players left, but either way, we’re not going to be moving 20 on.

I’ll go for 10 outgoings, mainly players who’ve been on loan and therefore weren’t part of last years squad anyway.

I fully expect Weghorst, Churlinov, Obafemi, Taylor and Costelloe to leave.

Anyone else would command a relatively high fee and it would be our decision to let them leave or not.

[ClaretInLeeds]

I get it as 16 players left, but either way, we’re not going to be moving 20 on.

I’ll go for 10 outgoings, mainly players who’ve been on loan and therefore weren’t part of last years squad anyway.

Scott Twine is missing from the list. Therefore 17.

[NewClaret]

Scott Twine is missing from the list. Therefore 17.

3rd from bottom

[bumba]

Newcastle signing a goalkeeper from Forest so looks like they've moved on from Trafford

[agreenwood]

Newcastle signing a goalkeeper from Forest so looks like they've moved on from Trafford

Odd one.

Trafford looked like he was being brought in to become Pope’s successor. The Forest keeper was third choice there and is 30. So either PSR got in the way and they decided not to bring in a cheap option or they may still want Trafford.

[NewClaret]

I fully expect Weghorst, Churlinov, Obafemi, Taylor and Costelloe to leave.

Anyone else would command a relatively high fee and it would be our decision to let them leave or not.

Yes, hopefully we’ll get half decent fees for Weghorst and Obafemi at least.

Plus I expect Roberts to Leeds who could also command a fee and Bastien somewhere for a small fee. Although given our lack of midfielders, I wouldn’t be against us keeping him for what we’d get (I thought he was tidy enough).

Think we’ll also get fees for McNally and Delcroix.

My hope is that, plus the unexpected Kompany money and a big Trafford sale will be able to cover this years transfer instalments and we can keep the core squad together.

[agreenwood]

Odd one.

Trafford looked like he was being brought in to become Pope’s successor. The Forest keeper was third choice there and is 30. So either PSR got in the way and they decided not to bring in a cheap option or they may still want Trafford.

*they decided to bring in a cheap option..

[NewClaret]

Newcastle signing a goalkeeper from Forest so looks like they've moved on from Trafford

I’ve given up reading about these PSR scams between the cheating clubs but if I’m reading it right they bought a 30 yo keeper who has barely played for £35m.

Three very good pieces of news about all of this:

1. When they came in for Trafford early I worried we might need to get deals done for PSR reasons. Obviously we weren’t in that position so that’s good.

2. Or we refused to get involved in whatever scams they were proposing. Also good.

3. When they come back we can say that we want £35m like they paid for a 3rd choice keeper.

[SirBob]

They have sold Anderson to Forrest for 35m

They have to sell before they can buy anyone

[NewClaret]

They have sold Anderson to Forrest for 35m

They have to sell before they can buy anyone

Didn’t they pay the same fee for the keeper though? Read something like that.

[TsarBomba]

Newcastle signing a goalkeeper from Forest so looks like they've moved on from Trafford

And they’ve just signed John Ruddy too.

[123EasyasBFC]

Newcastle signed John ruddy to, think that puts to bed them trying to sign Trafford now

[Jakubs Tash]

Newcastle had to sell before a certain date to be in line with PSR - hence the Anderson sale and imminent Minteh sale (which Newcastle fans aren’t very happy about).

With the way PSR works from an accounting point of view, I believe a sale can go into the accounts as the full amount and a buy can still be amortised over the length of the deal. This is why there are a number of strange deals happening between PL currently. They’re all looking after each other and making sure nobody is going to get penalised. You scrub my back….

[RVclaret]

Jack Gaughan, who reported Muric to us in the first place, is suggesting he’s set to leave this summer. Sounds like there is PL and European interest. What fee do we think here? 10-15?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ymailsport

[Hedontplayforyou]

Not what I wanted to see

[NewClaret]

Jack Gaughan, who reported Muric to us in the first place, is suggesting he’s set to leave this summer. Sounds like there is PL and European interest. What fee do we think here? 10-15?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ymailsport

Sadly, I think this is true, although I’m hoping it’s not.

For me keeping him & Berge are key to us fighting another challenge and I think if we sell him Pace & Co will realise just how vital he was to our promotion campaign.

For that reason I’d keep him even if it meant losing him for nothing the season after.

I won’t even say what I think he’s worth but imagine your £10-£15m is about what we’ll get.

If both him & Trafford are off I think we were a bit stupid to let BPF go tbh.

[123EasyasBFC]

And people thought muric wouldn’t have interest in the Prem

[LongsideClaret]

Jack Gaughan, who reported Muric to us in the first place, is suggesting he’s set to leave this summer. Sounds like there is PL and European interest. What fee do we think here? 10-15?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ymailsport

I’ve been told to expect an entirely new goalkeeping department for this season with all 4 recognised senior keepers set to leave.

[CoolClaret]

[RVclaret]

I’ve been told to expect an entirely new goalkeeping department for this season with all 4 recognised senior keepers set to leave.

Crikey

[LongsideClaret]

Crikey

In all fairness 2 of them never featured and 2 of them are worth an awful lot of money so seems relatively low impact to raise a lot of money and replace them for a lot less.

[ksrclaret]

I’ve been told to expect an entirely new goalkeeping department for this season with all 4 recognised senior keepers set to leave.

Strange that decisions like that might be made before a new manager is in post. Does he not get a say, whoever he is.

[claretskeith]

I’ve been told to expect an entirely new goalkeeping department for this season with all 4 recognised senior keepers set to leave.

That would certainly be Step 1 of not being promoted back to the Premier League.

[RVclaret]

In all fairness 2 of them never featured and 2 of them are worth an awful lot of money so seems relatively low impact to raise a lot of money and replace them for a lot less.

Yeah fair points.

Plenty of solid keeper options out there. Depending on our budget Michael Cooper from Plymouth would be a good choice, I think it would be close to £10m they want though.

[randomclaret2]

I’ve been told to expect an entirely new goalkeeping department for this season with all 4 recognised senior keepers set to leave.

Given we have no goalkeeping coach or manager, who has decided this ?

[bobinho]

Jack Gaughan, who reported Muric to us in the first place, is suggesting he’s set to leave this summer. Sounds like there is PL and European interest. What fee do we think here? 10-15?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ymailsport

I’d hope for that, but we’ll end up with 6 if we’re lucky.