Next manager

[claretskeith]

CoolClaret. It looks to me you are basing your hatred towards him due to one match.

What would it take to stop you being anti-Burnley and start backing us? As reading back on your history you've not supported Burnley since 2016-2017. That's a long time to hate a team.

[NewClaret]

I've no idea where you got the view he came across guarded. He came across open and sincere to me.

Possibly the way they’d sat him, but the folded arms and crossed legs just looks guarded. The interviewer was the opposite.

Just looked stony faced and moody to me, like he had the weight of the world on his shoulders. The opposite of Kompany in my view.

[NewClaret]

You're concerned because he's taking charge of a club in the north after managing teams in the south.

Kompany wasn't even in the same country before taking charge!

Stop being concerned!

Kompany had roots in the North West and had played for City. To be honest I think it’s a valid question as to whether he’ll settle and be happy in the north. I don’t think from a US owner’s perspective they’d even consider that but living up north is very different. I think this’ll be a short term appointment but I hope I’m very wrong.

[CoolClaret]

CoolClaret. It looks to me you are basing your hatred towards him due to one match.

What would it take to stop you being anti-Burnley and start backing us? As reading back on your history you've not supported Burnley since 2016-2017. That's a long time to hate a team.

Hi Nori.

I'd say saying that I have 'hatred' towards Scott Parker when I quite literally just posted this:

Certainly wasn't one of my top picks but I'll obviously get behind him.

Must say I did like him as a player but it just doesn't feel like a 'Burnley manager' - not that VK did either mind but that was an exciting appointment at the time....

See what happens. Big job on his plate.

is some reach...

Since you ask -

To me, the club appears to be regressing on multiple fronts, despite the PR and other crap that comes out. Departments in the club are/have been leaned out, with an increasing reliance on third parties for functions that imo, should be handled in-house.

The ownership seems focused on leveraging club assets for short-term financial gains, without risking any of their own capital, but chuck a few daft twitter videos out and people think they're brilliant. Player recruitment appears haphazard, prioritising potential profit over building and developing a squad for the medium/long term.

This approach feels at odds with the club's identity and values and it's disheartening to see BFC treated as just another business venture rather than the community institution it has long been.

[gawthorpe_view]

Can we get the stadium announcer changed to Lady Penelope.

Pretty sure she'll feature in the announcement video too.

[dsr]

Kompany had roots in the North West and had played for City. To be honest I think it’s a valid question as to whether he’ll settle and be happy in the north. I don’t think from a US owner’s perspective they’d even consider that but living up north is very different. I think this’ll be a short term appointment but I hope I’m very wrong.

Very different? It rains a bit more, but I don't see anything else to matter. What do you have in mind that's different?

[NewClaret]

Why this big focus on his personality? It’s his ability to talk to his players that matters not his ability to talk to the press.

I was trying not to say this but maybe it’s because he just sounds thick as **** to me. Like how he mixes his ‘what’ and ‘that’. He just seems such a departure from Kompany. Lampard would’ve been more similar, I think.

Did you hear the bit about the video? “Video has come on a long way, it used to be stop-start-rewind, now you can create small clips and get your point across very quickly”? Sounds like he doesn’t have much emphasis on video whereas Kompany wanted them in the classroom loads watching footage.

I think he’s going to be a huge shock and very different for the players, but who knows, maybe will simplify things for them a bit and develop them in different ways.

[claretskeith]

This approach feels at odds with the club's identity and values and it's disheartening to see BFC treated as just another business venture rather than the community institution it has long been.

Are you aware when you spend time being anti-Burnley, you're annoying people? Would you find it in yourself to never post again if it's bashing the club?

[NewClaret]

Very different? It rains a bit more, but I don't see anything else to matter. What do you have in mind that's different?

Well I’d say it rains a lot more, is cooler, everyone speaks differently and as a general rule it’s less affluent with less posh places to spend your time (and cardigan shops).

Spent his playing career at Charlton, West Ham, Chelsea, Fulham & Spurs in the main - so a very capital-centric playing career - with two years at Newcastle and a few games at Club Brugge being his only time away from London.

Not impossible to imagine he might not like the lifestyle up North/in Lancashire.

[lrac]

Ssn now saying Scott parker ,just saying

[claretskeith]

Ssn now saying Scott parker ,just saying

Breaking news.

[Vegas Claret]

I was trying not to say this but maybe it’s because he just sounds thick as **** to me. Like how he mixes his ‘what’ and ‘that’. He just seems such a departure from Kompany. Lampard would’ve been more similar, I think.

Did you hear the bit about the video? “Video has come on a long way, it used to be stop-start-rewind, now you can create small clips and get your point across very quickly”? Sounds like he doesn’t have much emphasis on video whereas Kompany wanted them in the classroom loads watching footage.

I think he’s going to be a huge shock and very different for the players, but who knows, maybe will simplify things for them a bit and develop them in different ways.

remember that video is a few years ago..........but the things you noticed I noticed. If he comes in with the attitude of bollocking anyone who doesn't do exactly what he wants then he wont last 6 months. We've gone from someone who spoke 7 languages to Parker who I doubt very much has a similar skill set. Now, being able to speak a language doesn't mean you aren't a good manager but it won't make it any easier for him if he struggles to get his message across. I wish him well but I'm honestly not particularly confident. We needed a lift and I'm not sure about anyone else but I don't particularly feel one and I would be surprised if the players felt differently to us. Let's see how he does though, full support until he wears a blue and white cardigan then all best are off !

[CoolClaret]

Are you aware when you spend time being anti-Burnley, you're annoying people? Would you find it in yourself to never post again if it's bashing the club?

Ironic coming from a bloke that's had about 20 accounts in a year that have all been banned.

If you don't like it - mute me and if I do something against the forum rules then I'll expect a ban as well.

Till then, I'll keep posting my opinions as I see fit

Oh and 'supporting' isn't blindly clapping everything that the club does either, unless you're the type that loves syncophants/being a sycophant.

[claretskeith]

Till then, I'll keep posting my opinions as I see fit

We got there eventually. No further questions, your honour.

[dsr]

Well I’d say it rains a lot more, is cooler, everyone speaks differently and as a general rule it’s less affluent with less posh places to spend your time (and cardigan shops).

Spent his playing career at Charlton, West Ham, Chelsea, Fulham & Spurs in the main - so a very capital-centric playing career - with two years at Newcastle and a few games at Club Brugge being his only time away from London.

Not impossible to imagine he might not like the lifestyle up North/in Lancashire.

Is there any tangible evidence of northern clubs' employees finding it hard to settle? A quarter of the league is based in the north west, and some of those clubs are very rich indeed.

Not everyone speaks differently. Not every street is Coronation Street. Besides, a manager who can't cope with different accents is going to struggle whichever club he is at!

Of course it's not impossible to say he might not like the lifestyle, but it's not likely either. If we only sign local men just in case, then we wouldn't have had Dyche either.

[Mattster]

It's pretty simple for me.

If you've thoroughly enjoyed watching England at the Euros and think Southgate is doing a good job then you're in for a treat because that's what we're getting with Parker.

The football will be turgid, pedestrian stuff, we'll feel the talent we have is being wasted, we'll ask why we're sitting back on a 1 goal lead and inviting weaker teams at us for 60+ minutes. But we'll be in the promotion frame (probably around 3rd - 5th) on the strength of the playing squad and some will point to that as him doing what he's been employed to do.

[Pearcey]

It's pretty simple for me.

If you've thoroughly enjoyed watching England at the Euros and think Southgate is doing a good job then you're in for a treat because that's what we're getting with Parker.

The football will be turgid, pedestrian stuff, we'll feel the talent we have is being wasted, we'll ask why we're sitting back on a 1 goal lead and inviting weaker teams at us for 60+ minutes. But we'll be in the promotion frame (probably around 3rd - 5th) on the strength of the playing squad and some will point to that as him doing what he's been employed to do.

Sounds very much like us last season except that England win a few games.

[RVclaret]

Also worth mentioning on his Premier league record - for Fulham he probably would have kept them up had Mitrovic been in form. That season he had a lot of injuries and poor form not scoring for 6 months with only 3 goals in 27 v 14 in 24 the season they came back up - both seasons he'd been the championship top scorer with 26 under Parker's promotion season

They got 28 points that season finishing above west brom and sheff utd and 11 points behind us in 17th and defensively conceded 55 to our 53. They drew too many games (13) - were unlucky in many of the games I watched and if Mitrovic had been in form / fit as he was in both promotion season as well as the subsequent seasons in both the Championship Premier League they'd have probably stayed up

It certainly wasn't a shocking season by any means and they were unlucky with other injuries. At Bournemouth he didn't have much of a chance after beating villa before first game losses to City, Arsenal and the famous 9nil v Liverpool before his sacking as a consequence of those 3 defeats coupled with the comments about the transfer policy and not getting enough signings in.


Fact is, where we are at anybody is going to have pros and cons - there is no perfect manager out there or they'd be in work or holding out for a bigger job. Anyone is going to be up and coming with potential, have a mixed bag of success and failure or someone like Robins/Corberan who have done well but can they step it up with more resources - then there's the question of if people have managed in the league before and whether they can adapt if not.

Ruud was the one I was most excited about from the links but he has had one season as a manager - in the Dutch league, had a falling out and resigned for not being backed enough (similar to what got parker sacked!). He also inherited a very talented squad with the likes of Gakpo, Xavi Simons, Madueke, Bakayoko, Branthwaite on loan etc - there would have been doubts there and risk just as there was with Kompany

Time will tell but there's going to be positives and negatives to anyone, Parker is someone with 2 promotions in the league and a similar style of play - I'm not his biggest fan but we could certainly do worse!

A well thought out post with some good points made.

[RVclaret]

It's pretty simple for me.

If you've thoroughly enjoyed watching England at the Euros and think Southgate is doing a good job then you're in for a treat because that's what we're getting with Parker.

The football will be turgid, pedestrian stuff, we'll feel the talent we have is being wasted, we'll ask why we're sitting back on a 1 goal lead and inviting weaker teams at us for 60+ minutes. But we'll be in the promotion frame (probably around 3rd - 5th) on the strength of the playing squad and some will point to that as him doing what he's been employed to do.

TBF he got Bournemouth finishing 2 points behind Marco Silva’s super Fulham team after the season before they failed to get close to the top 2. I’d say our squad right now is stronger than Bournemouth’s was. That team also created better /more chances p/90 than Kompany’s Burnley according to xG. So who knows, we might be surprised?

[Mattster]

Sounds very much like us last season except that England win a few games.

Ah, you enjoyed last season did you?

I knew someone would say that. There's some not so subtle differences.

1) Parker’s football is worse
2) We'll be in the Championship with one of the best squads in the league next season. As opposed to being in the Premier League with one of the weakest.

[Burnley1989]

Ah, you enjoyed last season did you?

I knew someone would say that. There's some not so subtle differences.

1) Parker’s football is worse
2) We'll be in the Championship with one of the best squads in the league next season. As opposed to being in the Premier League with one of the weakest.

I suspect you’ve not understand that correctly

[jedi_master]

Pretty amazed at a probably 70/30 split in dislike of this appointment. Unlikely any of us were going “Ooo, let’s get Scott Parker” when Kompany kicked us to the curb, and he has a certain ‘unlike-ability’ (hard to identify why) with his general demeanour - but Christ on a bike, it’s being spoken about on here like we’ve appointed Steve Evans or Paul Hart.

Kompany was excellent for us for a year, but make no mistake, it was **** last season and that was entirely down to him. I was on board the “he will repeat the promotion” train due to the squad we have, but do we really think the team was together last season? Something had been lost and particularly it’s worth questioning the likelihood of reitengrating the players he had unceremoniously binned like Benson and Zaroury. He is gone and didn’t think twice (who would with Bayern, but even still) about jumping - we need to get over it. So often I, and many others, are told to “get over Dyche” by a lot of the same posters now comparing Parker to Kompany unfavourably. They’re different people, different managers and that’s often what is needed after a disastrous season. Someone needs to come in and make some big decisions, change things up, reintegrate frustrated members of the squad and so on.

We probably need about three players to have the strongest first eleven in the division - the squad is very strong but lacks experience and is light in a couple of positions (possibly three if we’re selling all our keepers). I hope Parker is more willing than Kompany to bring in a couple of older heads to assist these players, because they need it - and they needed it last season too. I see at Bournemouth he brought in Gary Cahill for a year during their promotion for example. I have the utmost confidence Parker can deliver promotion and that is quite literally the only aim right now. If he’s as out of his depth in the Premier League as Kompany was, then we make a change. Let’s worry about that when the time comes - feels pointless talking about 0-9 losses to Liverpool when we’re playing shite like Oxford, Preston and Plymouth.

[burnley007]

I had hoped I would wake up this morning to find that this was just a bad dream...

[Walt]

Ah, you enjoyed last season did you?

I knew someone would say that. There's some not so subtle differences.

1) Parker’s football is worse
2) We'll be in the Championship with one of the best squads in the league next season. As opposed to being in the Premier League with one of the weakest.

Do we want to cruise the league playing beautiful football? Of course we do.

Will Parker deliver this, who knows. He has 2 promotions which simply can't be overlooked when measuring him against the other candidates.

The simple fact is, if he plays dull football and we go up who cares. In my opinion he won't play dull football, it will be somewhere inbetween.

As you've said, he will have a great squad at this level. We've made a sensible, if a little uninspiring appointment, certainly less glamorous if you like. I think he's savvy enough to get promoted with our squad.

[ClaretAL]

I had hoped I would wake up this morning to find that this was just a bad dream...

Will you and others give it a rest. You have all made your point as you are absolutely entitled to, but surely lets give the guy a chance and see what he produces, and get behind the team. If we throw the towel in now before a ball is kicked, that will filter through to the squad, and we start on a bad feeling straight off the bat rather than confidence and drive to get promotion. Lets get the announcement and press conference stuff out of the way, onwards and upwards with lots of work to do sort out squad numbers out.

[Mattster]

I suspect you’ve not understand that correctly

"Sounds like last season except we might win a few games"

If that's the sum of the ambition for this season then fair enough.

[BurnleyFC]

Kompany had roots in the North West and had played for City. To be honest I think it’s a valid question as to whether he’ll settle and be happy in the north. I don’t think from a US owner’s perspective they’d even consider that but living up north is very different. I think this’ll be a short term appointment but I hope I’m very wrong.

I’ve been told the delay in appointing him was because he thought Alan Pace had offered him the Bromley job.

He was a bit taken aback when he saw how far away Burnley is.

[burnley007]

Will you and others give it a rest. You have all made your point as you are absolutely entitled to, but surely lets give the guy a chance and see what he produces, and get behind the team. If we throw the towel in now before a ball is kicked, that will filter through to the squad, and we start on a bad feeling straight off the bat rather than confidence and drive to get promotion. Lets get the announcement and press conference stuff out of the way, onwards and upwards with lots of work to do sort out squad numbers out.

So, I should pretend to be ecstatic about us appointing him?

I'm sorry, but i can't pretend to be anything other than massively disappointed with this appointment.

[Mattster]

The simple fact is, if he plays dull football and we go up who cares. In my opinion he won't play dull football, it will be somewhere inbetween.

What's that based on? Can't be based on any of his managerial career so far, played the same insipid, snore inducing football in every single one of his jobs.

[ClaretAL]

So, I should pretend to be ecstatic about us appointing him?

I'm sorry, but i can't pretend to be anything other than massively disappointed with this appointment.

Not at all, I don't think he is anyone's number 1 choice, but neither was Dyche. All I am saying is a lot of have had their say quite rightly, but no need to keep saying it as if it is going to change anything. If indeed he is appointed, the very lest we can do is get on board and get behind him and the team, and give him a fair crack of the whip and judge him on his results, as at the minute a lot are painting a picture already of how the football will be and the results etc, and he is not even in the building yet.

We have got a very crucial couple of months ahead and a lot of work to do to give us the best possible start, that last we need is to burden that with negativity from the fans being injected in to the squad, as we know some of the squad do monitor social media etc.

[Benson]

What's that based on? Can't be based on any of his managerial career so far, played the same insipid, snore inducing football in every single one of his jobs.

Resulting in promotion in both of his jobs in the Championship.

[burnley007]

Not at all, I don't think he is anyone's number 1 choice, but neither was Dyche. All I am saying is a lot of have had their say quite rightly, but no need to keep saying it as if it is going to change anything. If indeed he is appointed, the very lest we can do is get on board and get behind him and the team, and give him a fair crack of the whip and judge him on his results, as at the minute a lot are painting a picture already of how the football will be and the results etc, and he is not even in the building yet.

We have got a very crucial couple of months ahead and a lot of work to do to give us the best possible start, that last we need is to burden that with negativity from the fans being injected in to the squad, as we know some of the squad do monitor social media etc.

I cannot get behind Parker. There is nothing about him that I can find that is likable.
He comes across as arrogant and self important. Fans of his previous clubs don't have a good word to say about him.
I will get behind the players 100%, but don't ask me to support Parker because I just can't.

[burnley007]

Resulting in promotion in both of his jobs in the Championship.

Any of us could have got those teams promoted.

Only scraping through the play offs with Fulham is not particularly impressive tbh.

[williamjblazkowicz]

I think there's a few here who would rather have a foreign name even if that manager has had less success than Parker. I don't think he was our first choice - I do wonder if we had our hearts set on RVN - but I imagine Parker was up there because he's in a small club of managers who've been promoted from the Championship (twice!). He clearly has some ability as a manager. No, he's not had success managing at PL level yet but that doesn't mean he can't with us - if he gets us there. Kompany failed too in that respect (abysmally in fact). I also don't particularly care about his dress code either. Good luck to him. He'll certainly have a lot of exciting young players to work with and it sounds like that's something he does well.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Any of us could have got those teams promoted.

Only scraping through the play offs with Fulham is not particularly impressive tbh.

Tbf if we use that same logic he should walk the league this season:

He will have by far the best squad and the highest budget

[Blyclaret]

Burnley007 I have listened to you message drivel about Parker for the last 2 days. You are a disgrace to call urself a Burnley supporter. My advice is go and support another club.Nobody on this message board wants to hear that one sided bias comments. Give the bloke a chance.

[Walt]

What's that based on? Can't be based on any of his managerial career so far, played the same insipid, snore inducing football in every single one of his jobs.

I dont think he has. He is attack minded, but if you're comparing it to Kompany then it will be a more pragmatic approach.

As I said before if we end up with a P next to our name, are you really going to be bothered if all our victories were 1-0?

Pace has previously said he wants an exciting brand of football here. I also think he's ruthless/smart enough to deal with any issues relating to style, or whatever the case may be. He will have made him aware what they expect from him, sitting behind the ball wont be it.

[ElectroClaret]

Burnley007 I have listened to you message drivel about Parker for the last 2 days. You are a disgrace to call urself a Burnley supporter. My advice is go and support another club.Nobody on this message board wants to hear that one sided bias comments. Give the bloke a chance.

He's the archetypal fair weather fan, he'll start backing him if he starts winning.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I want to be surprised that some are seemingly wanting Parker to fail before he has even been announced, but I am not. As has been said before there are some who do a lot more work than others to earn the dingle tag. I accepted a bit back that whoever we appoint there will be moaning, as there will be by adults over the kit the players will wear next season.

Was Parker a name that came to mind for me when thinking who would replace Kompany no, but then very few on the long list of names mentioned also did, but just because he isn't someone I would have picked I still want him to do well. Maybe it is on odd stance for some to want the club to do well. The one saving grace is the majority of the lunatics we have who seem to dislike anything about the club focus spending their time on twitter rather than here (or they just tone down their comments) but wait while you see the responses on there when the club announce this.

[Benson]

Tbf if we use that same logic he should walk the league this season:

He will have by far the best squad and the highest budget

We don’t have the best squad, thanks to Kompany we have a massively unbalanced squad that’s going to take a lot of sorting out.
Parker wouldn’t have been my choice but if he does arrive he’ll get my full backing.

[Holtyclaret]

It's pretty simple for me.

If you've thoroughly enjoyed watching England at the Euros and think Southgate is doing a good job then you're in for a treat because that's what we're getting with Parker.

The football will be turgid, pedestrian stuff, we'll feel the talent we have is being wasted, we'll ask why we're sitting back on a 1 goal lead and inviting weaker teams at us for 60+ minutes. But we'll be in the promotion frame (probably around 3rd - 5th) on the strength of the playing squad and some will point to that as him doing what he's been employed to do.

Have you got next weeks lotto numbers too?

[quoonbeatz]

And have you? No, of course you haven't.

Twice.

[jedi_master]

We don’t have the best squad, thanks to Kompany we have a massively unbalanced squad that’s going to take a lot of sorting out.
Parker wouldn’t have been my choice but if he does arrive he’ll get my full backing.

The squad is too big, and it is unbalanced - but even still (with assumption that we sell Odobert, Trafford, Muric at least):

--------------------------New
--Sambo------O'Shea---------Esteve-------Pires
-------------------Cullen-----Berge
-----Benson-----------Brownhill---------Koleosho
---------------------------Foster

Ekdal, Beyer, Vitinho, Al-Dakhil, Massengo, Zaroury, Tresor, Amdouni, Rodriguez and a whole load extra.

That is a ridiculously strong squad - just needs a couple of older heads (I'd have kept JBG) and a striker that we can comfortably rely on for 15-20 and I fail to see how that cannot get promoted. Vital we keep Berge.

[dandeclaret]

2 promotions from this division, decent reputation, decent coach.

Crack on and get promoted. The football can’t be any worse than it was last season…. Surely.

[Stockbrokerbelt]

Burnley007 I have listened to you message drivel about Parker for the last 2 days. You are a disgrace to call urself a Burnley supporter. My advice is go and support another club.Nobody on this message board wants to hear that one sided bias comments. Give the bloke a chance.

Get this man a pint. We are fast just becoming another billy big bollxocks, look at me look at me message board, the drivel & negativity is becoming very dull. Everything turns into an arguement, I know better or I know more than you on the big topics. How about just getting behind the new manager, players & board, just for a change let’s brighten up each others day.

[Big Vinny K]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but we have more than a few posters on here who regularly make comments suggesting that they could have got us promoted with that team or got us more points in the EPL last season or played better football than Dyche etc etc

The strange thing is why would these posters spend half their life posting on a football forum when they could be doing their coaching badges and then applying for a job they feel they are better qualified for than the people who they are calling out ? It’s not like there isn’t lots of vacancies on regular basis.

Earn lots of money doing a job in a sport you love where you believe you can do a better job or tell everyone on a messageboard you could do it ?

How sad.

[burnley007]

He's the archetypal fair weather fan, he'll start backing him if he starts winning.

Am I?

I don't remember meeting you?
I think you're one of those smug types aren't you?

[jedi_master]

2 promotions from this division, decent reputation, decent coach.

Crack on and get promoted. The football can’t be any worse than it was last season…. Surely.

That's basically it, in a nutshell.

[NewClaret]

I’ve been told the delay in appointing him was because he thought Alan Pace had offered him the Bromley job.

He was a bit taken aback when he saw how far away Burnley is.

I’m surprised he knows where Burnley is, a lot of Londoners don’t!

[bfcjg]

If some on here are devastated that we've got a manager with 2 promotions then I suggest you join a self help group with the Bayern fans who must be in a similar state of depression after signing a manager whose only top flight experience ended in an embarrassing relegation.
I think Pace, JJ and Co will have questioned his style of football.