Parker v’s Kompany

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Parker v’s Kompany

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:43 am

In an attempt to make myself feel better about Parker being our new manager I’ve been looking at his career stats as a manager.

His time at Brugge is the stick that most use to hit him snd the thing that was reference pretty often during the new manager conversations on this board so I found this pretty interesting.

Parker’s league record for his 10 games in charge was

W 2
D 6
L 2

Ironically, if we look at Kompany’s for 10 league games with us

W 3
D 5
L 2

Similarly, with Bournemouth in the top flight, much was made of his record however he beat Villa followed by loses to City, Arsenal and Liverpool. Granted his agg score across the losses were 16-0 however Kompany’s agg score for our losses against those same teams over 3 games was 10-0.

Maybe we aren’t in as much trouble as we first thought with Parker and with the patience and backing that Kompany was given he might prove to be a good appointment

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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:51 am

Have you just made stats up?

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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by Fretters » Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:56 am

Penwortham_Claret wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:43 am
Ironically, if we look at Kompany’s for 10 league games with us
Should that read FIRST 10 league games? It will make a lot more sense if so!

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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by BigAlClaret » Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:23 pm

Watford away was our only league defeat until Sheffield United away and that was well into Autumn and certainly not in the first 10.

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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:46 pm

When Parker started at Bournemouth he didn't lose any of his first 15 league games, his first loss was on the 3rd of November v PNE

He had a run of 5 wins in a row then a draw followed by another 5 straight wins before the PNE Game. From Parkers first 15 league game's he picked up 11 wins and 4 draws picking up a total of 37 points

Kompany from his opening 15 league game's had 6 wins 1 loss and 8 draws picking up 26 points

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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:04 pm

I prefer to look at the individual rather than the stats.From what we are now learning about Kompany we have dodged a bullet, plus we got significant compensation for him abandoning us. Parker has cost us nothing as he was not employed and we have kept two key coaches in Bellamy & Jackson who know the team and the club. I think Kompany would probably win all day based on his first season with us, stats-wise. However I sense with Parker we won't get the big ego, and he will be able to re-unite a squad that has been scarred in certain quarters. I am also convinced we lose the stubborness that surrounded VK in team selection, an unwillingness to change our style to adapt to the PL, and substitutions. He could not get out of our club quick enough knowing his reputation had been badly damaged in this country

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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by ClaretPete001 » Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:20 pm

His performance at Bruges was bad, there is no getting away from it.

But Lampard's was at Everton. Wreck it Ralph had a shocking time at United but has done a great job with the Austrian team.

Moyes has had some disasters. Even Ancelloti was ordinary at Everton.

All you can ask the board to do is pick the best person for the job with the most relevant experience and that's what they have done.

Messengo might never play a game for Burnley and walk away with his reputation intact. Amdouni may leave next week and many will consider him a failure.

Doing nothing and failing at nothing does not mean that individuals won't fail it's just they haven't yet.

Parker has and hopefully he is the wiser for it.
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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by Foshiznik » Mon Jul 08, 2024 1:55 pm

If you want a better comparison, not that it actually means much as it was different teams and different seasons but at least use the same league:-

Kompany's first 10 games in all competitions at Anderlecht

W4 D3 L3

Kompany's first 10 league games at Anderlecht

W4 D5 L1

Other stats for what it's worth

Parkers first 10 games every season
2018–19 - Fulham - Premier League
W3 D0 L7

2019-20 - Fulham - Championship
W5 D3 L2

2020-21 - Fulham - Premier League
W2 D1 L7

2021-22 - Bournemouth - Championship
W6 D4 L0

Looks like a similar trend for both managers.

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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by mdd2 » Mon Jul 08, 2024 3:03 pm

it is the next 10 that matter and tbh lets see what it is after 46
Give the guy a chance
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We had to judge him when it was his team

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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by Buxtonclaret » Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:58 am

Well it's doubtful Paker will see us as an insignificant little stepping stone to practice with on his way to the Real Madrid job.
He'll hopefully not get quickly bored with his remit here too.

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Re: Parker v’s Kompany

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:12 am

BigAlClaret wrote:
Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:23 pm
Watford away was our only league defeat until Sheffield United away and that was well into Autumn and certainly not in the first 10.
Sheffield United was game 20, prior to that we’d won 10, drawn 8 and lost 1.

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