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Re: Friendlies

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:21 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:20 pm
This view of football, where the fans are a problem and not the only reason for the sport's existence, is bizarre to me.
I'm a realist. I remember many footballers saying they preferred the covid games where they weren't getting shouted at for being "Lazy Bastards" by some fella who gets out of breath going upstairs for a crap

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Re: Friendlies

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:30 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 5:21 pm
I'm a realist. I remember many footballers saying they preferred the covid games where they weren't getting shouted at for being "Lazy Bastards" by some fella who gets out of breath going upstairs for a crap
Well I’ve never heard one single player say that but I’ve heard many players saying it just wasn’t real at all and were pleased to get back to playing in front of crowds. Find me a professional footballer who prefers behind closed doors and I reckon he’s not a professional footballer.

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Re: Friendlies

Post by sjb » Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:23 pm
The u21 game tomorrow was advertised by Hearts some time ago but Burnley have made it a behind closed doors game.
The Hearts 'first team' friendly will be 2 periods of 75 minutes each. Hearts are playing 2 different teams and I presume we will do the same.

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Re: Friendlies

Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:24 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:22 pm
He did against Barnsley but apparently it was a training exercise with team changes every half hour or so.
Sorry to ask the question for a ‘pointless friendly’ but I can’t help it - any idea of the full time score?

Delighted for Twine.

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Re: Friendlies

Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:26 pm

sjb wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:46 pm
The Hearts 'first team' friendly will be 2 periods of 75 minutes each. Hearts are playing 2 different teams and I presume we will do the same.
Sounds like brilliant preparation for the whole squad.

Maybe this is why they do them behind closed doors, so they can play extended halves (presumably with drinks breaks, etc.). Not that I’d mind paying for 150 minutes and getting to watch the whole squad.

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Scott Twine...

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:24 pm

... Apparently bagged a hat-trick today in a pre-season game against I believe Barnsley?

May still have a part to play for the Clarets!

I always believed he was going to be a late bloomer, just one of them that slips through the cracks and takes time to really kick on - will probably peak at 30 or so!

Who knows... perhaps more to come from Scott?
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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by mybloodisclaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:43 pm

Good to hear, friendlies are friendlies but always nice to get a hat trick. Was really excited when we signed him, would love it if he could kick on with us.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by ksrclaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:50 pm

Hopefully players like Twine will feel they have a renewed opportunity to impress now in a meritocracy.

I thought his cameos in the last Championship season were creditworthy and I'd be happy to move out other players and retain Twine.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Commy » Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:20 am

I think I am one of the few who actually thinks he can make a very good player. He didn't have much luck the first season with us with injuries. He played very well at Bristol City with the manager he played for at MK Dons and now has more experience of the Championship.
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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by IanMcL » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:14 am

Extracted from Bristol City:

Twine shines for Burnley
City transfer target Scott Twine scored a hat-trick for Burnley in a behind-closed-doors friendly against Barnsley, which will no doubt have left new Clarets manager Scott Parker impressed.

City have been in extended talks with Burnley over a deal to bring the 25-year-old playmaker back to Ashton Gate following his encouraging loan during the second half of last season. A decision has been increasingly delayed, first by Burnley’s long search for a replacement to Vincent Kompany and now Parker’s desire to run the rule over his squad.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:34 am

He's a keeper ....just for his dead ball deliveries. He's intelligent & can make an incisive pass, i'd keep him.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:46 am

Twine is a player who will continuously improve as he gets older because he’s an intelligent person as well as a skilled footballer. I’d love to keep him despite his previous shortcomings for us that were shaped by his injuries.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:50 am

Not for me, would like to see him sold whilst we can get a fee

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:51 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:50 am
Not for me, would like to see him sold whilst we can get a fee
I can respect that viewpoint, and you may well be right to think we should cash in

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:59 am

Rick_Muller wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:51 am
I can respect that viewpoint, and you may well be right to think we should cash in
I could well be wrong, I've just not seen enough of him to think he'd do a job in a promotion challenging side, I think we've better players in his position at the club.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:08 am

I like how quickly he moves the ball, mostly very few touches. Under VK when he did play he got into some really smart positions when he did play and often wasn't found, I think there is a really useful player in there. I'd be getting rid of at least half a dozen before I got to his name on the list.
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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by bumba » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:40 am

Decent player and a likeable character but he's at a point where he needs to play as much as possible to reach his potential and unfortunately I just don't see him starting week in week out for us with the players we have available.
There's also part of me that thinks if we're chasing automatic promotion then this season Scott Twine isn't the answer

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:09 am

bumba wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:40 am
Decent player and a likeable character but he's at a point where he needs to play as much as possible to reach his potential and unfortunately I just don't see him starting week in week out for us with the players we have available.
There's also part of me that thinks if we're chasing automatic promotion then this season Scott Twine isn't the answer
Pretty much my view. I do think he’s got the attitude and work ethic that needs bringing back to this team / squad though.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jul 19, 2024 7:19 am

If we can get our money back then sell him

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Benson » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:14 am

If Brownhill goes, which seems likely, he could do a job in the more advanced midfield role.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:16 am

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:59 am
I could well be wrong, I've just not seen enough of him to think he'd do a job in a promotion challenging side, I think we've better players in his position at the club.
Rescued a point for us at home to West Brom 1.5 years ago don't forget!

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:23 am

Scored 6 goals in 35 league appearances for 2 average sides in Hull & Bristol City (no idea of minutes on the pitch in those appearances) so isn't hard to imagine he could do a decent job with a run of games. The issue would be fitting him in the team regularly which is why I think we would accept a decent offer.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Robbie_painter » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:38 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:16 am
Rescued a point for us at home to West Brom 1.5 years ago don't forget!
Won the game.
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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Luppy » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:39 am

I like Twine - there’s been the odd moment where I have thought yes he can play - unlike some signings last year

I hope he kicks on but won’t get too carried away - it’s a pre season friendly at the end of the day. I mean if they were of any relevance we would have been able to sell Jutkiewicz for millions 😂

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:48 am

Taffy on the wing wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:34 am
He's a keeper ....just for his dead ball deliveries. He's intelligent & can make an incisive pass, i'd keep him.
Completely agree.

Would also add that on the couple of times I saw him last season he had bulked up a lot and also seemed to have learned from Barnesy a love of getting in a scrap. Was much more physical overall.

Definite keeper for me and glad pre-season has started well for him.
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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by warksclaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:46 am

Benson wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:14 am
If Brownhill goes, which seems likely, he could do a job in the more advanced midfield role.
Wishful thinking-he could not be more dissimilar to Josh whose game is all about breaking down play, tackling and pressing. Be interesting to see how Parker see Twine. Have to say Twine is one of only a few players where there is supposed interest from other Championship clubs, so they must see something in him

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 9:52 am

Robbie_painter wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:38 am
Won the game.
Yep! For some reason thought that was 1-1 in my head but no, 2-1 win... Great atmosphere when that went in.

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Re: Friendlies

Post by gawthorpe_view » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:05 pm

Nobbers beat Liverpool 1-0 today.

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Re: Friendlies

Post by Row x » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:14 pm

gawthorpe_view wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:05 pm
Nobbers beat Liverpool 1-0 today.
Our under 21s lost 2.1 apparently

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:14 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:59 am
I could well be wrong, I've just not seen enough of him to think he'd do a job in a promotion challenging side, I think we've better players in his position at the club.
He didn’t offer too much in his limited appearances. More concerning I suppose is his disappointing times last season at Hull & Brizzle.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:17 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:14 pm
He didn’t offer too much in his limited appearances. More concerning I suppose is his disappointing times last season at Hull & Brizzle.
Bristol fans seem to like him and are hoping that they sign him permanently.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:19 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:17 pm
Bristol fans seem to like him and are hoping that they sign him permanently.
In fairness he missed almost two months at Bristol City with an injury.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:37 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:19 pm
In fairness he missed almost two months at Bristol City with an injury.
They probably like him despite that.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by Jakubs Tash » Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:17 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 6:19 pm
In fairness he missed almost two months at Bristol City with an injury.
Twine does seem to have missed considerable chunks of the season with injury the last two seasons whilst he’s been in the Championship. That’s a bit of a concern.

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:22 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:17 pm
Twine does seem to have missed considerable chunks of the season with injury the last two seasons whilst he’s been in the Championship. That’s a bit of a concern.
The injury at Burnley was always something of a mystery we thought at the time but it’s how things are now at our club.

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Re: Friendlies

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:18 pm

I imagine it doesn’t take much to get Bristol City fans excited.

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Re: Friendlies

Post by BradTee93 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:14 am

There no indication on this Cadiz friendly location yet? 😅 club do like leaving it too the last minute

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Re: Friendlies

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:16 am

BradTee93 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:14 am
There no indication on this Cadiz friendly location yet? 😅 club do like leaving it too the last minute
I asked a couple of days ago and there's still no venue for the game

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Re: Friendlies

Post by AlargeClaret » Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:12 am

I’m presuming the vast amount of pre season being played behind closed doors is mainly due to our seemingly huge squad /loans/newsignings/trialists etc ? allied to the unpredictable futures of a lot of those players .
Must be a nightmare for SP having to evaluate the squad , though hopefully an exiting challenge as well .

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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:58 am

NewClaret wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:48 am
Completely agree.

Would also add that on the couple of times I saw him last season he had bulked up a lot and also seemed to have learned from Barnesy a love of getting in a scrap. Was much more physical overall.

Definite keeper for me and glad pre-season has started well for him.
The bulking up was what was needed!

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Re: Friendlies

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:45 am

When’s our next friendly?

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Re: Friendlies

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:54 am

AlargeClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:12 am
I’m presuming the vast amount of pre season being played behind closed doors is mainly due to our seemingly huge squad /loans/newsignings/trialists etc ? allied to the unpredictable futures of a lot of those players .
Must be a nightmare for SP having to evaluate the squad , though hopefully an exiting challenge as well .
I just don’t understand the nightmare theory (a lot have said this). If I were a manager I’d far rather take ownership of a big squad with lots of talent (half has won the Championship with 101 points, the other half were big money buys many of whom have suitors from bigger clubs).

I’d much rather be inheriting that, than say a team that have been stuck in the Championhip a few years, losing parachute money and stagnated/lost their best players. Or a team a bit further on in that process like Stoke or Rovers that have lost all of them!

It’s a lot easier planning who to discard (some will be taken out of his hands anyway) than trying to attract new players. But he’s already managed to sign 5 so he’s clearly being supported.

I’d say that’s just about an absolute dream position for a Championship manager to find himself in.

I hope he never presents it as such either. Will all come across “woe is me” and far too negative.
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Re: Scott Twine...

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:55 am

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 10:58 am
The bulking up was what was needed!
Agree and he took note of that and definitely worked on it.

Toughened up too.

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Re: Friendlies

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:14 pm

Played Hearts today on two pitches, 0v0 & 1v0 I'm told
Handbags at the end

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Re: Friendlies

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:17 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 11:54 am
I just don’t understand the nightmare theory (a lot have said this). If I were a manager I’d far rather take ownership of a big squad with lots of talent (half has won the Championship with 101 points, the other half were big money buys many of whom have suitors from bigger clubs).

I’d much rather be inheriting that, than say a team that have been stuck in the Championhip a few years, losing parachute money and stagnated/lost their best players. Or a team a bit further on in that process like Stoke or Rovers that have lost all of them!

It’s a lot easier planning who to discard (some will be taken out of his hands anyway) than trying to attract new players. But he’s already managed to sign 5 so he’s clearly being supported.

I’d say that’s just about an absolute dream position for a Championship manager to find himself in.

I hope he never presents it as such either. Will all come across “woe is me” and far too negative.
Sambo signed a pre-contract last March and both Pires and Hountondji have referred to being aware of their moves before the end of last season.

Parker may have had some influence with the Hladjý signing but definitely not the others.

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Re: Friendlies

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:26 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:14 pm
Played Hearts today on two pitches, 0v0 & 1v0 I'm told
Handbags at the end
Any idea on the scorer?

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Re: Friendlies

Post by NewClaret » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:27 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:14 pm
Played Hearts today on two pitches, 0v0 & 1v0 I'm told
Handbags at the end
1-0 win?

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Re: Friendlies

Post by Pickles » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:30 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:14 pm
Played Hearts today on two pitches, 0v0 & 1v0 I'm told
Handbags at the end
Some people were worried we'd have to carry him, so pleased he's come up with a late winner.
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Re: Friendlies

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:36 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:27 pm
1-0 win?
didnt ask mate but told their manager gave them a bollocking for it

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Re: Friendlies

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:36 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:36 pm
didnt ask mate but told their manager gave them a bollocking for it
we won

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