BFC Players leaving on bad terms

[Tricky Trevor]

I don’t particularly remember him leaving on “bad terms” but when Derek Scott came back with Horwich Wanderers he was getting stick from the crowd and just rubbed his thumb and forefingers together. Money talks.

[equinox]

Does anyone actually know how long the process was in Muric's transfer to Ipswich?
Is it possible that had permission from Burnley to sort out his future?

Muric was actually on his into training at Gawthorpe when the clutch slipped under his foot and he ended up in Ipswich.

[kaptin1]

Aside from Muric (who has now left the building) and possibly Tresor (if rumours are correct), are there any other players that should have returned to pre season training but haven’t, excluding those who have been on international duty and maybe aren’t due back yet?

[basil6345789]

I don’t think a certain Mr Mcilroy who fell out with Bob Lord or Alex Elder who Harry Potts fell out with left on good terms.

Exactly and in the case of Mac, the gate went down by 5k at a stroke and many of them never came back.

[ClaretTony]

I seem to remember an incident with Lafferty involving the old message board where he was going to seek out people who had criticised him, or something on those lines.

It was Big Dave who gave him a 4 in the player ratings and commented: ‘Goalscorer my arse.”

Lafferty got my number and phone me demanding all the numbers of those who dared to criticise him. I won’t publish my response.

But his departure followed his heavy criticism of Owen Coyle in a national newspaper article. I’m told Brendan Flood forced the club into making it look as if he was targeting the supporters but he’d had a fall out with Coyle. We’d have got a lot more money for him had Flood not blocked a move to Fulham a year earlier.

[Wembley09]

Didn't Coyle say about Lafferty, that he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer.. or something along those lines, basically calling him thick.

Or am I imagining that?

[Jakubclaret]

I don't think I realised how nuts the Gibson scenario was at the time.
Our record signing swanning off and training with another club mid season

Steve gibson is a family orientated guy so in terms of helping out his nephew he was only too happy to help. We made a horlicks out of it & any other circumstances BG wouldn't have found a return so easy & welcoming.

[Bordeauxclaret]

It was Big Dave who gave him a 4 in the player ratings and commented: ‘Goalscorer my arse.”

Lafferty got my number and phone me demanding all the numbers of those who dared to criticise him. I won’t publish my response.

But his departure followed his heavy criticism of Owen Coyle in a national newspaper article. I’m told Brendan Flood forced the club into making it look as if he was targeting the supporters but he’d had a fall out with Coyle. We’d have got a lot more money for him had Flood not blocked a move to Fulham a year earlier.

So Flood was right then???

[ClaretTony]

So Flood was right then???

Flood was far from right. He was denying the facts that Lafferty was targeting the manager.

[Bordeauxclaret]

But he was targeting fans by your own admission?

[Sproggy]

Jeez. Has anyone left on good terms? Might be a shorter thread.

[JanetM]

Jeez. Has anyone left on good terms? Might be a shorter thread.

[dougcollins]

Paul Stewart.
Didn't he give the fans a Churchillian gesture as he left the field for the last time?

We gave him one back.

No love lost there methinks.

[Goliath]

Flood was far from right. He was denying the facts that Lafferty was targeting the manager.

Lafferty was a prize bellend as was Chris McCann from my experiences with them in the town centre bars at that time.

[ClaretTony]

Lafferty was a prize bellend as was Chris McCann from my experiences with them in the town centre bars at that time.

I always got on well with Chris McCann. He was quite a quiet bloke, unlike Lafferty.

[Goliath]

I always got on well with Chris McCann. He was quite a quiet bloke, unlike Lafferty.

I suppose we met them in different circumstances. People change when they've had a drink, especially at that age. Looking back it was incredible how often members of that squad were out late drinking in the promotion season when they had so many huge games crammed in (Lafferty was already gone by that point).

Should have known then it was all going to end in tears. They weren't the most professional of squads, to say the least! Probably the last of that era before Howe rightly cleared most of them out. Although Trippier and Ings weren't much better for it.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Jeez. Has anyone left on good terms? Might be a shorter thread.

No.

They should all be like Brian Miller and never leave.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Wout is number 1 for this. Why bother signing a multi year contract if he’s no intention of playing for us? Any player that prioritises their country over club is a selfish arsehole as far as I’m concerned.

Pound-for-pound our worst ever signing.

Players regularly transfer to further their international ambitions though

He signed for us because we were in the PL
When we got relegated his international manager informed him he wouldn’t be selected if not in at a top flight club

I can’t recall the last time someone played for England who wasn’t with a top flight club somewhere, so it’s understandable that WW wanted to go

We’ve probably done alright out of it in regards to loan fees

[Jakubclaret]

Players regularly transfer to further their international ambitions though

He signed for us because we were in the PL
When we got relegated his international manager informed him he wouldn’t be selected if not in at a top flight club

I can’t recall the last time someone played for England who wasn’t with a top flight club somewhere, so it’s understandable that WW wanted to go

We’ve probably done alright out of it in regards to loan fees

Everything smacks of it being rushed without any due care or consideration regarding WW in the aftermath of CW departure which I believe didn’t have to happen at that exact point. Overall good money from Newcastle but still relegated & haven’t really recouped the full amount from the WW outlay. Nothings really been gained from both transactions apart from a swap take your pick.

[Wembley09]

I suppose we met them in different circumstances. People change when they've had a drink, especially at that age. Looking back it was incredible how often members of that squad were out late drinking in the promotion season when they had so many huge games crammed in (Lafferty was already gone by that point).

Should have known then it was all going to end in tears. They weren't the most professional of squads, to say the least! Probably the last of that era before Howe rightly cleared most of them out. Although Trippier and Ings weren't much better for it.

I was going to say. I was working nights at Kitchens garage back then.. and Trippier was a regular.

Under Dyche and Howe. I get he was a young lad enjoying himself, he was never a d**k always seemed like a happy drunk.

Seen worse in there such as Clark Carlisle, although he was always coming in for cigarettes.. even during the promotion season. He was still a nasty f**ker on the occasions he did come in drunk, a self righteous attitude.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Everything smacks of it being rushed without any due care or consideration regarding WW in the aftermath of CW departure which I believe didn’t have to happen at that exact point. Overall good money from Newcastle but still relegated & haven’t really recouped the full amount from the WW outlay. Nothings really been gained from both transactions apart from a swap take your pick.

Tbh, I’m not arsed about that

The point was players move all the time to further or protect their international ambitions etc
I’m not getting dragged into what will be a boring chat about when/how/why we signed him, it’s been done to death and I don’t care anymore

[Jakubclaret]

Tbh, I’m not arsed about that

The point was players move all the time to further or protect their international ambitions etc
I’m not getting dragged into what will be a boring chat about when/how/why we signed him, it’s been done to death and I don’t care anymore

Fair enough then but in the grand scheme of things it's made sod all difference towards the betterment of BFC from what we now know. It's been a completely baffling signing somebody who isn't interested in playing for a second tier side which in all liklihood that's what we are & even with promotion it's in jeopardy & shortlived.

[Goliath]

I was going to say. I was working nights at Kitchens garage back then.. and Trippier was a regular.

Under Dyche and Howe. I get he was a young lad enjoying himself, he was never a d**k always seemed like a happy drunk.

Seen worse in there such as Clark Carlisle, although he was always coming in for cigarettes.. even during the promotion season. He was still a nasty f**ker on the occasions he did come in drunk, a self righteous attitude.

Maybe it's more about the level we were at and the size of the club at the time more than an era thing thinking about it. Charlie Austin was another one that had a reputation.

Everything was much smaller and community based back then and players seemed to get away with more.

The bigger we've got the more the players have become distanced from the club both physically with most living in or around Manchester and probably emotionally as well. It's definitely not the close knit club and community it was when we were skint in the Champ. Everything's also become more professional, which is obviously a good thing performance wise.

[ClaretTony]

I was going to say. I was working nights at Kitchens garage back then.. and Trippier was a regular.

Under Dyche and Howe. I get he was a young lad enjoying himself, he was never a d**k always seemed like a happy drunk.

Seen worse in there such as Clark Carlisle, although he was always coming in for cigarettes.. even during the promotion season. He was still a nasty f**ker on the occasions he did come in drunk, a self righteous attitude.

There were two sides to Clarke Carlisle. When he was fine, he was a decent bloke but when not he could be very distasteful. He threatened me one day because someone had crossed him on Facebook. He said I was to blame because I run the internet. He was so threatening, Steven Caldwell & Alex MacDonald had to intervene. The next time I saw Clarke he was fine.

[elwaclaret]

Flood was far from right. He was denying the facts that Lafferty was targeting the manager.

To be fair it definitely was not Coyle Lafferty was targeting at Blackpool away when he spent more time arguing with the Burnley fans than on the ball.

[ClaretTony]

To be fair it definitely was not Coyle Lafferty was targeting at Blackpool away when he spent more time arguing with the Burnley fans than on the ball.

It was that woman in the wheelchair. She was a very unpleasant woman but he should never have reacted to her dreadful abuse in the way he did.

But it was definitely his relationship with Coyle that saw him leave.

[Goliath]

Goimg back to the original subject...Van der schaaf. I'm still hoping one day someone with an inside scoop will tell us what happened there. It's only been about 16 years and I've never even heard a daft rumour involving the Dutch mafia.

[Dyched]

Thing is here. If a players been **** and runs his contract down or wants to leave that’s all fine.

But when he’s done well and wants to leave or running the contract down he’s left on “bad terms”.

It’s mostly on the fans side not wanting the player to leave and being upset and making up stuff.

[ClaretTony]

Goimg back to the original subject...Van der schaaf. I'm still hoping one day someone with an inside scoop will tell us what happened there. It's only been about 16 years and I've never even heard a daft rumour involving the Dutch mafia.

Very strange

Coyle did a press conference prior to going to the USA and was asked about the possibility of signing him. He told the gathered press that he’d never heard of him. We confirmed the signing around an hour later.

He then told the CM evening that he would make Chris McCann a better player by playing alongside him.

He played 59 minutes at Sheffield Wednesday but that was it. If you look back at that season, he was listed as one of the subs at Coventry but he wasn’t there.

In his second season, vds had surgery for I think a shoulder injury. When asked about it, Coyle made it clear he wouldn’t discuss him.

Yes, still as confused as you.

[ClaretInLeeds]

Lafferty was a prize bellend as was Chris McCann from my experiences with them in the town centre bars at that time.

Awww, would they no speak to you?

Kyle Lafferty owed a lot of players a lot of money when he left, I’m a 100% certain that was also a contributing factor in him leaving too.

[Goliath]

Awww, would they no speak to you?

Kyle Lafferty owed a lot of players a lot of money when he left, I’m a 100% certain that was also a contributing factor in him leaving too.

Unfortunately they would. I'd have preferred it if they hadn't tbf.

[Goliath]

Very strange

Coyle did a press conference prior to going to the USA and was asked about the possibility of signing him. He told the gathered press that he’d never heard of him. We confirmed the signing around an hour later.

He then told the CM evening that he would make Chris McCann a better player by playing alongside him.

He played 59 minutes at Sheffield Wednesday but that was it. If you look back at that season, he was listed as one of the subs at Coventry but he wasn’t there.

In his second season, vds had surgery for I think a shoulder injury. When asked about it, Coyle made it clear he wouldn’t discuss him.

Yes, still as confused as you.

I didn't even think he was too bad at Sheff Wed, I had him him down as one of the ok performers of which there weren't many. I suppose Alexander being absolutely dreadful at full back didn't help him as it meant him moving back into the central role but I'm pretty sure that isn't the story.

[ClaretTony]

I didn't even think he was too bad at Sheff Wed, I had him him down as one of the ok performers of which there weren't many. I suppose Alexander being absolutely dreadful at full back didn't help him as it meant him moving back into the central role but I'm pretty sure that isn't the story.

I doubt we will ever know.

[KRBFC]

Ings downing tools and bottling that penalty.

Andy Gray one of the best strikers we’ve had since I’ve been watching, I was gutted the way he handled the move

[fidelcastro]

Ings didn't down tools, he didn't bottle any penalty.

Gray wasn't one of the best strikers we've had, we've had several better since.

Apart from that, great post though.

[Inchy]

Floods played a blinder there

KL slags off the manager, which would be damaging for the club and its manager, so flood turns it on its head and makes out that KL is slagging off supporters (which two incidences have been listed here, wheelchair lady and big Dave) saving the club and Coyle and making KL look like a c*nt

Masterstroke

[bfcmik]

Didn't Mike Conroy go public about his 'low pay' at Burnley, then Inchy went on Radio Lancs to explain how that 'low pay' became decent money once bonusses were added?

[Shappie]

How could we forget Kyle Lafferty?

Didn't he talk to the press about how the BFC fans didnt like him, to engineer a move to Celtic? Then we used the from him money (and some money we didnt have) to get promoted to the PL.

Lafferty was my first thought when I saw the title thread

[Bordeauxclaret]

Didn't Mike Conroy go public about his 'low pay' at Burnley, then Inchy went on Radio Lancs to explain how that 'low pay' became decent money once bonusses were added?

That was Nogan.

I think Conroy went to the press with comments about wanting to leave a good few years before though. I think there was an issue with him celebrating a Preston goal against us before he’d left.

[ALP]

Blatherwick, Winstanley and Williams when Stan potted em, I don't think there were many good terms in them three.

[MeeActon1]

Ings didn't down tools, he didn't bottle any penalty.

Gray wasn't one of the best strikers we've had, we've had several better since.

Apart from that, great post though.

Don’t know about downing tools but he definitely bottled the penalty. Can still see him now, bending down, hands on hips as Taylor offered him the ball, just shook his head. The rest is history. Disliked him ever since. I was front row Jimmy Mac upper then and it was plain as day.

[fidelcastro]

Don’t know about downing tools but he definitely bottled the penalty. Can still see him now, bending down, hands on hips as Taylor offered him the ball, just shook his head. The rest is history. Disliked him ever since. I was front row Jimmy Mac upper then and it was plain as day.

Taylor was the designated penalty taker.

[MeeActon1]

Didn't Mike Conroy go public about his 'low pay' at Burnley, then Inchy went on Radio Lancs to explain how that 'low pay' became decent money once bonusses were added?

I did an interview with Mike Conroy after he left, asked him the question, admitted it was about money, said that the deal he’d been offered had meant that he would be on less than his previous contract due to the way that his bonuses had been cut. His words were something along the lines of “we’ve all got mortgages to pay, what would you do?” Preston offered him better terms and he was upset by what was technically a pay cut from Burnley, although not his basic wage, just the bonuses.

[MeeActon1]

Taylor was the designated penalty taker.

Think we had two penalties that season, Ings scored v Aston Villa and this one.

[fidelcastro]

Think we had two penalties that season, Ings scored v Aston Villa and this one.

That may be so, but when on the pitch, 'dead ball specialist' Matt Taylor was always going to take it.

[MeeActon1]

That may be so, but when on the pitch, 'dead ball specialist' Matt Taylor was always going to take it.

If you say so, anyway, I’ll leave the conversation there. You obviously had the ear of Sean Dyche…..

[fidelcastro]

If you say so, anyway, I’ll leave the conversation there. You obviously had the ear of Sean Dyche…..

Must've done

[Blondeclaret]

I don't think I realised how nuts the Gibson scenario was at the time.
Our record signing swanning off and training with another club mid season

In the defence of Ben Gibson, everything was fine until he had a stand off with Ian Woan and Dyche said he didn’t want him in the club. Never even spoke to him after that and had permission to train with Sunderland until he got a move.

[clarethomer]

Wasn't there reports of Ings being quite off leading up to him leaving.

Seem to recall it being mentioned that he was quite uncommunicative with Dyche when he knew he was off to Liverpool?

[Row x]

In the defence of Ben Gibson, everything was fine until he had a stand off with Ian Woan and Dyche said he didn’t want him in the club. Never even spoke to him after that and had permission to train with Sunderland until he got a move.

He would have been better off at Middlesbrough