Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Big Vinny K]

He was one of the top scorers in Belgium the season we signed him. Before that he hadn’t really been given a proper run as a main striker and was playing wide. Also how many of the 136 appearances were as a sub during his younger years?

Fact is he had something like 8 goal contributions in the first 9/10 games in the Prem last season and was probably our best player until the red card at Forest & subsequent issues. Then second half of the season, Villa away aside, it didn’t happen for him but he’d also had to recover from a hernia op & then played off the right wing. Let’s hope we can get him back to the levels we have seen him at.

Obviously injuries and his other issues are very relevant to his record and performances for the club.

And I agree he was excellent for us in those 9/10 games at the start of last season and undoubtedly our best player (during a period when we were at our worst).

But that is 9 or 10 games out of one and half seasons which suggests that he is every bit as likely to carry on struggling than he is to get back to the levels we saw at the start of last season. I also think that his record in Belgium is pretty much irrelevant firstly because of what has happened to him since moving to Burnley and secondly (and as we have seen with Tresor too) that statistics in the Belgian league don’t necessarily mean anything to how you perform in this country.

I hope he does well and I do think that we have seen enough of his ability to be fairly optimistic but one thing for sure it would be a massive risk to rely on Foster to be our main striker next season.

[Sproggy]

Let's hope we sign a striker then.

[AGENT_CLARET]

We need to get Tressor shifted along with Wout

Tressor is a LW OR CAM It's where all his assists come from before we signed him, Kompany played him on the RW for whatever reason, if we play Tressor in his correct position he'll rip up the championship

[randomclaret2]

Tressor is a LW OR CAM It's where all his assists come from before we signed him, Kompany played him on the RW for whatever reason, if we play Tressor in his correct position he'll rip up the championship

He needs to turn up first

[AGENT_CLARET]

He needs to turn up first

Anything official he hasn't

[Jakubs Tash]

That can be said of any player, though.

We’re not talking about physical fitness though, are we?

It’s true that it can affect anyone but it’s fairly safe to assume, from what we know, that the player most likely to suffer from mental illness currently in Burnley’s squad is Lyle Foster.

[boatshed bill]

We’re not talking about physical fitness though, are we?

It’s true that it can affect anyone but it’s fairly safe to assume, from what we know, that the player most likely to suffer from mental illness currently in Burnley’s squad is Lyle Foster.

Sorry, JT, I thought the other illness was a bit unmentionable.

[summitclaret]

I think the unfairly disallowed goal at NF, which probably led to his sending off, had massive impact on Lyle. He was flying before that. Similarly I think both really affected our season.

[randomclaret2]

Anything official he hasn't

No nothing at all

[ChorltonCharlie]

Lyle Foster played 362 minutes in the Championship for us. 3 of his 4 starts were in largely experimental line ups away from home. The jury is still out on him, but his form in the first few months of last season would seem to be a lot better indicator of what he could potentially do this season, that his stop/start first few months in English football.

[RVclaret]

but one thing for sure it would be a massive risk to rely on Foster to be our main striker next season.

Which is why we’ve signed another . From all reports and reviews I’ve read on Hountondji we should be quite excited.

[jojomk1]

Which is why we’ve signed another . From all reports and reviews I’ve read on Hountondji we should be quite excited.

We've also got Jay and Obafemi

[NewClaret]

I think the unfairly disallowed goal at NF, which probably led to his sending off, had massive impact on Lyle. He was flying before that. Similarly I think both really affected our season.

Completely agree. I remember wondering after the NF game how that combination of events might impact him, particularly the ban, then that happened. Who knows whether that period would’ve manifested in the way it did without a enforced break from the team?

(Incidentally, that’s the stuff our Ash used to do all the time but knew how to get away with it.)

After that he didn’t really look the same player, not helped by Kompany playing him out of position.

He’d started every inch the premier league striker though, was one of our best players and there’s every chance come January and next summer we’ll be fending off offers and talking about him as essential to keep hold of, in my view.

Parker needs to watch the videos of the opening games closely (plus Villa away) and try to get him to recreate those levels. One real beacon of hope here being that he got Solanke and Mitrovic (I think) firing.

[NewClaret]

Which is why we’ve signed another . From all reports and reviews I’ve read on Hountondji we should be quite excited.

I was told he was excellent vs Newcastle - goal and an assist.

[Shipclaret]

Wilson Odobert linked with Ipswich in their local rag. He’s at the Circus in France at the moment. TBF it’s based on a story from O’Rourke on Football insider but occupied the full back page.

[AfloatinClaret]

...Going into the PL campaign with Foster and Rodriguez as our only real centre forward options was a catastrophe, and hopefully Hountondji will prove a good option this season.

Wout's not gone as yet.

[morninbob]

Wilson Odobert linked with Ipswich in their local rag. He’s at the Circus in France at the moment. TBF it’s based on a story from O’Rourke on Football insider but occupied the full back page.

Complete rollocks, he's on Spain with the rest of the squad.

[GetIntoEm]

Berge or Odobert won't go I don't think. 1 season in championship shouldn't effect value, no point.

[Steddyman]

Berge was happy to play in the Championship the year before last with Sheffield United. I think it is more likely the club are pushing for a few high profile sales to balance the books.

[ClaretTony]

Berge was happy to play in the Championship the year before last with Sheffield United. I think it is more likely the club are pushing for a few high profile sales to balance the books.

We have to sell players, firstly to reduce the squad and secondly we surely need to bring in some money. I’ve said it before but how the hell were we ever allowed to get a squad of this size?

[Steddyman]

We have to sell players, firstly to reduce the squad and secondly we surely need to bring in some money. I’ve said it before but how the hell were we ever allowed to get a squad of this size?

Yes, it really was crazy. We weren't even trying to balance the squad, we were happy to buy as many as we could in any position just on the hope one turned out to be a gem.

[colne-claret]

We have to sell players, firstly to reduce the squad and secondly we surely need to bring in some money. I’ve said it before but how the hell were we ever allowed to get a squad of this size?

Lack of rumours doesn’t fill me with hope that we will get shut of the players we need to. Suspect the problem is, we will probably want more money for a lot of them than other championship clubs can afford.

[Steddyman]

I see Galatasaray want to sign Scott McTominay and are offering only £13m. In that context I can't see us getting £20m from a Turkish club for Berge.

https://x.com/mufcMPB/status/1818283352488841685

[ClaretTony]

Lack of rumours doesn’t fill me with hope that we will get shut of the players we need to. Suspect the problem is, we will probably want more money for a lot of them than other championship clubs can afford.

I suppose there are two different groups of players we might want to move on to reduce the squad, those who will bring in an acceptable fee and those who are considered not good enough.

[NewClaret]

We have to sell players, firstly to reduce the squad and secondly we surely need to bring in some money. I’ve said it before but how the hell were we ever allowed to get a squad of this size?

We were allowed to get a squad of this size because Alan Pace kept sanctioning signings and there’s presumably no legal limit on the number of signings you can make, just the squad size.

I imagine we’ll trim it this year and I’m still keen to see if the deal to buy another club to ‘develop our players’ that Stuart Hunt spoke of in a recent interview is what transpires or wishful thinking given we’ve been relegated.

I’d personally not be against loaning and not selling some of the better but cheaper ones fringe players though. If we don’t go up we’ll be needing a much more wholesale restructuring of the squad and having one or two of the cheaper signings experienced at Championship level to come back in might be very necessary.

[ksrclaret]

I for one hope that we don't buy another club in order to use them as a vehicle with which to try to develop our own players. Would we want that doing to us?

Rancid idea.

[NewClaret]

I for one hope that we don't buy another club in order to use them as a vehicle with which to develop our own players. Would we want that doing to us?

Rancid idea.

Not at all but it’s apparently the plan and obviously one that successful clubs like Brighton and City have done before us, although how much of that success is due to their multi-club model is debatable.

Although I imagine there are many clubs across European leagues whose fans are very unhappy with their owners and may welcome a change and some good loan players. Not every set of fans will be against it and I suppose it depends how they’re managed after the purchase that would count. For example, I sense we’re developing a recruitment framework now that if deployed at other clubs in different leagues could really appeal to their fans.

[123EasyasBFC]

I see Galatasaray want to sign Scott McTominay and are offering only £13m. In that context I can't see us getting £20m from a Turkish club for Berge.

https://x.com/mufcMPB/status/1818283352488841685

United want 30m plus for mctominay

[ClaretTony]

We were allowed to get a squad of this size because Alan Pace kept sanctioning signings and there’s presumably no legal limit on the number of signings you can make, just the squad size.

I imagine we’ll trim it this year and I’m still keen to see if the deal to buy another club to ‘develop our players’ that Stuart Hunt spoke of in a recent interview is what transpires or wishful thinking given we’ve been relegated.

I’d personally not be against loaning and not selling some of the better but cheaper ones fringe players though. If we don’t go up we’ll be needing a much more wholesale restructuring of the squad and having one or two of the cheaper signings experienced at Championship level to come back in might be very necessary.

I’m very much against this multi club ownership. It can destroy the smaller clubs. We need to get players out of the club, not on loan. We have to reduce the squad and with it the wage bill.

[BigGaz]

Links in with what I've been banging on about Odobert or Berge in this thread.

It might well be that we value them at 25 or 30m or whatever. Great. You go find us someone who will buy them at that price at this moment in time then and the best of luck to you with that.

No idea how desperate we are at this stage but a 15m bid on deadline day when liquidity isnt looking great suddenly might look a decent option for the board.

As someone else has said, you'd be better just giving them a season in the championship and trying to recover capital from the 12+ also rans in the squad.

[dermotdermot]

Weghorst on the verge of signing for Trabzonspor apparently. I don’t know if we’re getting anything for him but good riddance anyway

[NewClaret]

I’m very much against this multi club ownership. It can destroy the smaller clubs. We need to get players out of the club, not on loan. We have to reduce the squad and with it the wage bill.

I think most fans have reservations about it, although I don’t of any clubs it has destroyed but that’s most likely my lack of knowledge. I can image if I were a fan of a much smaller club though, or we had the same owners as Real Madrid for example, I might be quite hopeful they could bring something to the table that a traditional ownership structure couldn’t.

I think everyone is united that the squad needs trimming. I think another factor in why it’s got so big though is because it’s part Premier League part Championship squad, and our traversing the leagues hasn’t helped - it obviously wouldn’t be this big had we remained in the Championship.

It’s a reasonable argument to say we should’ve cut more as we were buying last summer, but also reasonable, I think, to say that having not done so plays in to our hands this summer if we receive a lot of bids and have to sell the Premier League element of the squad.

I also think with the nature of parachute payments it might be worthwhile not cutting the full squad because if we were able to keep hold of more of the Premier League part of the squad this summer (which we should in my view to give us the best chance of staying up), we certainly won’t be able to next year. There will then be significant outgoings and we’ll presumably be cash strapped, so having some players to come back in that don’t require transfer fees might be good management also. Loans can generate fees and obviously cut the wage bill too, but I expect the club are looking to sell anyway so a moot point.

[Pickles]

Lewis O'Brien has signed for LAFC. Linked and would've been decent for us.

[ecc]

I see Galatasaray want to sign Scott McTominay and are offering only £13m. In that context I can't see us getting £20m from a Turkish club for Berge.

https://x.com/mufcMPB/status/1818283352488841685

I dislike his club as much as the next man but offering £13m for McTomnay is taking the rise.

He was one of the few United players to stand out in a shabby season and Ratcliffe wants him to sign a new contract.

"Now, according to the Daily Star, United are set to hand McTominay a new deal as a reward for his uptick in form and performances this term. The midfielder has 15 months left to run on his current £60,000 per-week contract - and the club have an option to extend that by a further year.


There is no urgency for United to tie him down now, but co-owner Sir Jim Ratcliffe is keen to secure McTominay on a longer contract and give him a pay rise, too. The Red Devils are willing to double his salary to £120,000 per-week, which would limit or even stop transfer interest in the summer window."

[CrosspoolClarets]

Weghorst on the verge of signing for Trabzonspor apparently. I don’t know if we’re getting anything for him but good riddance anyway

Weghorst is the epitome of a manager’s nightmare. He can be very good, but only when he chooses. He is a legend in his own mind, not a team player. So yes, we need to get rid, not good enough for the EFL because he would switch off.

[Steddyman]

Lewis O'Brien has signed for LAFC. Linked and would've been decent for us.

Not for us, I can pronounce his name.

[Lord_Bob]

Hope I'm not missing something here, but isn't the lack of links to be expected? We have a new manager who needs to get to know the squad and he should be a major factor in deciding who goes and who stays. And he MUST know he has to trim the squad. He needs time to figure it out and keep the players he wants.

Add to that, any club looking at our players as targets would be wise to wait until the season starts I would have thought, or at least seem some friendlies. That's when they can get an idea of who Parker wants to keep and who may be going. Those going will come at a cheaper price I would imagine, rather than those who Parker wants to keep.

I wouldn't imagine anything happening until they get back from Spain at the earliest.

Long winded way of saying "relax" still time to get this sorted out.

[Vegas Claret]

We have to sell players, firstly to reduce the squad and secondly we surely need to bring in some money. I’ve said it before but how the hell were we ever allowed to get a squad of this size?

The Chelsea model, but without the money !

[Clive 1960]

I’m very much against this multi club ownership. It can destroy the smaller clubs. We need to get players out of the club, not on loan. We have to reduce the squad and with it the wage bill.

correct Tony it should never been allowed to happen in the first place and how do you keep a squad so big happy...

[Guller Bull]

Not in the know at all but just get a feeling today is going to be busy.

Hopefully at the very least Weggy wiggles hiss ass on the way out.

[ClaretTony]

correct Tony it should never been allowed to happen in the first place and how do you keep a squad so big happy...

You don't keep it happy and those being overlooked/ignored as was the case last season will not be happy which takes negativity into the dressing room.

[Clive 1960]

You don't keep it happy and those being overlooked/ignored as was the case last season will not be happy which takes negativity into the dressing room.

I just think Alan Pace and Co just bought into everything Vincent said and it could cost us if we can't shift some before the window closes, just unbelievable that they let it happen..

[Rick_Muller]

I just think Alan Pace and Co just bought into everything Vincent said and it could cost us if we can't shift some before the window closes, just unbelievable that they let it happen..

when you're with the "most beautiful woman in the world" you buy her what she wants when she wants it

[claretskeith]

Too early to worry/panic. More loans tend to happen nearing the end of the window, when clubs have last-minute plugs to fill. I expect most fringe players we can't sell, will find a club for the season toward the end of August.

[Clive 1960]

i hope you are right Skeith .

[Clive 1960]

Too early to worry/panic. More loans tend to happen nearing the end of the window, when clubs have last-minute plugs to fill. I expect most fringe players we can't sell, will find a club for the season toward the end of August.

sorry for putting down as Skeith it's just that i new someone with that name but obviously it's Claretskeith ..

[123EasyasBFC]

Too early to worry/panic. More loans tend to happen nearing the end of the window, when clubs have last-minute plugs to fill. I expect most fringe players we can't sell, will find a club for the season toward the end of August.

Most loans from premier league teams happen when clubs are back from their pre season tours to. Even more so after a World Cup or euros summer when some players are only just coming back to pre season training

[Ric_C]

Looking at the Girona video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Q6uCxEBC8

The only main players I couldn't spot were:

Tresor
Trafford
Amdouni
Weghorst

[burnley007]

Looking at the Girona video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3Q6uCxEBC8

The only main players I couldn't spot were:

Tresor
Trafford
Amdouni
Weghorst

I thought I'd spotted Traff in that?

[Ric_C]

Maybe but I think it might have been Casper?