Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Wasn’t there something weird where United paid both us and Besiktas?

Yes

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/20 ... horst-loan

[Rileybobs]

Bear in mind that the loan fee may just be covering Weghorst’s wage whilst we’re still paying him, in which case this would not make any inroads into the initial transfer fee.

[Big Vinny K]

There will have been loan fees from Besiktas, Manchester United and Hoffenheim. I’m sure Besiktas will have had to be compensated to a certain level but there’s no way that Burnley football club, as a business, would sanction a deal just for the romance of it.

I think if we can somehow manage to get €5-6m for Weghorst (which I think is realistic) then this is not a bad result.

For sure.
My point was really more about I think it’s unlikely that we will get the kind of loan fees we did for WW if we go down this route for Tresor.
WW had a better track record of doing well in decent leagues and has also regularly performed well for his country.

[boatshed bill]

Bear in mind that the loan fee may just be covering Weghorst’s wage whilst we’re still paying him, in which case this would not make any inroads into the initial transfer fee.

Isn't the loan fee separate from the wages? Like an arrangement fee?

[Rileybobs]

Isn't the loan fee separate from the wages? Like an arrangement fee?

I guess it can be whatever the two clubs want it to be. I wouldn’t take for granted that the loanee club pays the loaning club a fee whilst also paying the player’s wage though.

[blatherwickstattoos]

Anyone know what this lad from Bristol is like ? The striker we are linked with

[Jakubclaret]

It's more likely to be a separate entity although combining the 2 might ease the pain for some posters maintaining that the transfer fees been balanced out on loans alone. Dressing it up as if it hasn't been a disastrous financial piece of business.

[Pearcey]

The best way to boost his value is to be part of a team that p1sses the championship.

Doesn’t sound like that’s an option if the reports of him not returning are true. The signing has been a monumental balls up.

[123EasyasBFC]

Anyone know what this lad from Bristol is like ? The striker we are linked with

I think if we could swap twine for Conway at Bristol then it’s one hell of a deal, Conway can play on both wings to, lots of potential in him

[Woodleyclaret]

Spot on re swap which I did feel its worth pursuing

[Wokingclaret]

Boro in for him

[123EasyasBFC]

Boro in for him

They are but if we are looking at him and Bristol city want twine then there’s a deal to be done.

We have done a deal similar with Bristol city before, they wanted wells and we wanted brownhill

[Newcastleclaret93]

I don’t think they will miss him, they got 35m for a guy they played right back most of the season. He didn’t even get into their midfield

Out his 50 odd appearances last season over 25 were in midfield or attacking midfield.

He’s a very very special young talent. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s playing for England at the next tournament

[Guller Bull]

O Shea interest

https://the72.co.uk/2024/08/01/burnley- ... -interest/

[123EasyasBFC]

Out his 50 odd appearances last season over 25 were in midfield or attacking midfield.

He’s a very very special young talent. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s playing for England at the next tournament

Absolutely no chance he’s in englands midfield at the World Cup, so many better options. Wharton and mainoo for starters. You will still have rice and Bellingham

[randomclaret2]

Absolutely no chance he’s in englands midfield at the World Cup, so many better options. Wharton and mainoo for starters. You will still have rice and Bellingham

A lot can happen between now and then. Who knew Mainoo and Wharton would be in the squad this time last year ?

[claretspice]

They are but if we are looking at him and Bristol city want twine then there’s a deal to be done.

We have done a deal similar with Bristol city before, they wanted wells and we wanted brownhill

You could plausibly have not only Twine but also Obafemi, McNally or Egan Riley in a swap pool as well.

Conway is an interesting one. Decent pedigree for a young forward but his style appears to be akin to Foster and Hountondji, a physically strong striker but one who wants to go in behind rather than fix central defenders.

[NewClaret]

O Shea interest

https://the72.co.uk/2024/08/01/burnley- ... -interest/

Really hope we hold on to him.

[RVclaret]

O Shea interest

https://the72.co.uk/2024/08/01/burnley- ... -interest/

Must keep, one of our few leaders & homegrown players who will be in the first team. On top of that is a decent player.

[123EasyasBFC]

A lot can happen between now and then. Who knew Mainoo and Wharton would be in the squad this time last year ?

Be lucky if Archie Gray starts 15 games in the league this season

[123EasyasBFC]

You could plausibly have not only Twine but also Obafemi, McNally or Egan Riley in a swap pool as well.

Conway is an interesting one. Decent pedigree for a young forward but his style appears to be akin to Foster and Hountondji, a physically strong striker but one who wants to go in behind rather than fix central defenders.

I’d imagine McNally has a move ready but with all the cb injuries he’s had to stick around for now

[NewClaret]

Out his 50 odd appearances last season over 25 were in midfield or attacking midfield.

He’s a very very special young talent. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s playing for England at the next tournament

To be honest, I’ll be shocked if he plays too many minutes for Spurs next year, although the fee they’ve paid will mean he’ll have to feature. He’s so small and lightweight that he’ll be knocked off the ball and run around with ease in the premier league.

That said he is a very talented player. You don’t keep an established international like Connor Roberts out of the side otherwise. I think he’d have been better staying at Leeds whilst he develops physically.

Players like Odobert and Koleosho are far more prepared for the premier league physically.

[BigGaz]

I paid particular attention to Gray last season. The thread over on the MOT forum is still quite prominent.

They felt annoyed with Farke because they felt the inclusion of Gray in midfield caused imbalance and that he wasn't ready for that much responsibility. Acknowledged his talents and that he has a massive future ahead of him but felt they as a team played much better when he was at Right Back and Kamara was playing in CM instead of him.

I don't doubt for a minute he'll go on to have a sterling career at top end PL and England level but at this moment in time according to Leeds fans he is a bit behind some of his peers.

You would imagine for the next 5-10 years England's CM is going to be 2/3 or 3/3 of Rice Mainoo Wharton

[123EasyasBFC]

Out his 50 odd appearances last season over 25 were in midfield or attacking midfield.

He’s a very very special young talent. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s playing for England at the next tournament

He played 30 games at right back 28 in league and 2 in play offs, including the play off final, so he didn’t get into the midfield in the biggest game of their season. The original point wasn’t that he isn’t a talent but he was nowhere near their second best player behind Summerville last season. Losing Gray doesn’t or won’t affect Leeds as much as losing Summerville, rutter, meslier or ampadu

[warksclaret]

Gray has the potential of being similar to Ryan Sessegnon who joined Spurs in 2019 for £25m (big money 5 years ago). In 4-5 seasons played just over 50 games for Spurs-mainly from the bench. Last season he went back to Fulham on a free

[Guller Bull]

Twine /McNally swap deal

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... us-9451900


Think they've been reading this thread.


Not sure McNally should be classed as a "makeweight" though.

[morninbob]

Swap deal for Conway involving twine and McNally.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... us-9451900

[123EasyasBFC]

I think that would be an excellent deal. Twine and McNally are good pals and they would get the chance to play football and restart their careers and in return we get a home grown 22 year old talent. Great deal all round

[RVclaret]

I’d be keen on that deal. Gives us a talented young striker in Conway who can score at this level, retain the ‘homegrown’ numbers while Twine/McNally get a good club & gametime. We already have Zeki & Brownhill & JBG who can play in the areas Twine does.

[GetIntoEm]

i think its a better deal for them, than us, considering they were talking "£5m"

however, its a smart move for both sides i think.

[claretskeith]

I'd be fine with this. I do not see Twine making it into our starting 11 and we're sorted in central defence. Also means 1 in and 2 out, reducing the numbers.

[warksclaret]

Sounds sensible reducing our squad size by more than one, and cant honestly see either getting game time with us. Both I suspect want to settle down and be part of a permanent team. Value wise-Conway was valued at £5m in the talks with Boro. In round terms I would expect Twine to be valued around £3.5m and McNally £1.5 m. Manning is obviously keen on Twine, and it means neither club has to stump up any money in these tough times

[randomclaret2]

Twine and McNally chess partners

[ElectroClaret]

They're both most unlikely to figure to any great degree for us, so get shut, two stagnant wages off the books and a good player like Conway in.

Do it.

[jedi_master]

Good deal for all parties that I’d think, although I’d be fine seeing Twine hang around the squad if not. I can see it happening but no cash should change hands - that should be more than sufficient alone with those two players.

[jrgbfc]

Can we not throw Obafemi in as well?

[claretspice]

Twine /McNally swap deal

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... us-9451900


Think they've been reading this thread.


Not sure McNally should be classed as a "makeweight" though.

Well there we go. Seems like that would be a sensible deal all round. I like the idea of Twine - and his set piece prowess will be a miss as it is oddly something we lack from a right footer - but he's not suggested over the last 2 seasons he's quite good enough to be a regular in s promotion chasing team. McNally appears similarly to be a solid Championship citizen. Whilst Conway appears at face value quite similar to what we've got, he does appear the sort of player the club are interested in targeting.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Twine /McNally swap deal

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... us-9451900


Think they've been reading this thread.


Not sure McNally should be classed as a "makeweight" though.

Good deal all round

Move two players on that arnt going to play for us and get a promising striker in return.

[CoolClaret]

Would have liked to have seen Twine given another crack at the whip as a rotation '10' / attacking mid but if we can offload two fringe players for one with a ton of promise then I think that's sensible.

Not to mention, it also gives both Scott & Luke a permanent home, which at the stages of their careers I think is best for them.

[JarrowClaret]

I like Twine and could see him being a regular in the match day squad if not eventually a starter, but this looks to be a sensible move if it happens. The main thing we need is to reduce the amount of players in our squad and this does start it. I haven’t seen Conway play, but I have seen plenty of people that rate him highly, but is he another striker in the mould of Foster or could he be an option off the right for example if it happened? I suspect we need more of a target man especially after Wout goes could he be that or not?

[Newcastleclaret93]

Would have liked to have seen Twine given another crack at the whip as a rotation '10' / attacking mid but if we can offload two fringe players for one with a ton of promise then I think that's sensible.

Not to mention, it also gives both Scott & Luke a permanent home, which at the stages of their careers I think is best for them.

Best thing for both there careers. Both were never going to be regular starters for us

[SalouClaret]

I like Twine and could see him being a regular in the match day squad if not eventually a starter, but this looks to be a sensible move if it happens. The main thing we need is to reduce the amount of players in our squad and this does start it. I haven’t seen Conway play, but I have seen plenty of people that rate him highly, but is he another striker in the mould of Foster or could he be an option off the right for example if it happened? I suspect we need more of a target man especially after Wout goes could he be that or not?

I don't think Wout leaving means we need to replace him. He hasn't played for us in 2 seasons.

[JarrowClaret]

I don't think Wout leaving means we need to replace him. He hasn't played for us in 2 seasons.

My comment wasn’t about replacing Wout it was about us needing a target man and the only reason I mentioned his name is he is currently the closest we have to 1.

[clarethomer]

Swap deal for Conway involving twine and McNally.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/foo ... us-9451900

Feels like a very 'bland' incoming when you consider last 24 months.

Would be a good signing though.

[Boss Hogg]

The Bristol City deal sounds sensible for all parties.

[DCWat]

Sounds sensible reducing our squad size by more than one, and cant honestly see either getting game time with us. Both I suspect want to settle down and be part of a permanent team. Value wise-Conway was valued at £5m in the talks with Boro. In round terms I would expect Twine to be valued around £3.5m and McNally £1.5 m. Manning is obviously keen on Twine, and it means neither club has to stump up any money in these tough times

By my calculations, we’d be reducing our squad size by exactly one, unless one of Twine or McNally are classed as 1.1 players.

[claretspice]

Feels like a very 'bland' incoming when you consider last 24 months.

Would be a good signing though.

I think the objective for the rest of the summer is to bring in a sprinkling of bland to go with the more exotic flavours we already have.

[123EasyasBFC]

Potentially twine and McNally leaving. Heavy rumours of weghorst being done going back to turkey, links yesterday to Tresor moving on. No delcroix, churlinov or obafemi in Spain, looks like Parker has a good idea of who he wants to work with and we are slowly reducing the size of the squad down without losing our priced assets yet

[ArmchairDetective]

That deal kind of makes sense for everyone. Could see Pace being keen on it if it is true. Conway 4 years younger than Twine. Replace two salaries with one. Little cash involved. Assume Conway would be home grown too. Something we need to keep an eye on.

[boyyanno]

Twine and McNally cost us more than Conway is likely to leave for.

It's a deal that makes sense because the squad is so big but that doesn't necessarily make it a good deal.