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Post by BigChaCha » Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:17 pm

We have have 2 wingers who’s favoured position is right wing, benson and Redmond. Redmond is injured and bensons injury record isn’t great. I’m just saying I can see why we might be in for a right winger
To be honest, I am not even sure if Redmond's favoured position is right-wing!... We have seen him more on the left in the small amount of times he's played for us and every time I saw him play for Southampton back in the day, he played more as a 10... He certainly seemed to play just behind the forward/s for Southampton in a free role in the many times he ripped us apart anyway!

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Post by boyyanno » Mon Aug 12, 2024 4:13 pm

If we sign more wingers without addressing other areas of the squad then we've learnt the square root of feck all.
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Post by TsarBomba » Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:55 am

Michael Cooper to Sheff Utd from Plymouth- £2M.

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Post by burnley007 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:46 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 9:55 am
Michael Cooper to Sheff Utd from Plymouth- £2M.
Excellent deal for them.
Did we pay a fee for Greene?

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Post by Mattster » Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:56 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 12:46 pm
Excellent deal for them.
Did we pay a fee for Greene?
I'd seen it reported there was no fee for Green but there was a large sell on (around the 50% mark IIRC).

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:04 pm

Looks like Sheff Utd are getting Jesurun Rak-Sakyi too from Palace, Wilder putting together a very good side

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:24 pm

Twine being on the bench last night was really down to being home grown more than anything. McNally being on the bench was due to our current injuries at centre half.

However, I think it was also more than a ‘nod’ towards Bristol City to say these lads are ours and they’re involved - put up or shut up.

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Post by nyclaret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:33 pm

Berge to United looks like it’s hinging on Ugarte to United. Romano has just tweeted saying that if an agreement can’t be reached with PSG, they will move to cheaper target.

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Post by dcunningham27 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:41 pm

Brentford closing in on a deal for dara now apparently

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Post by FeedTheArf » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:42 pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/20 ... a-burnley/

Still no mention of what the potential fee might be, only that we're expected to make a profit. I should hope so!!

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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:45 pm

That's a proper shitter after last night, Mike McGrath too so it'll be true.

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Post by FeedTheArf » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:48 pm

Assuming there isn't a relegation clause fee in the contract, and I can't imagine there would be given we picked him up from the Championship to start with, what fee would you be happy with realistically? £12m?

If we were still in the prem I'd be wanting £20m+ but we're not

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Post by wilks_bfc » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:51 pm

This is the problem with having the window close after the season starts - you get the performance the builds up hope and then players get snapped up

Would be disappointing to lose him.
He did start last season shakey but he was one of the top performers especially after Christmas

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:51 pm

Makes his performance last night even better, ultra professional and someone who clearly has improved following a tough season, he will 100% start over Collins in my eyes
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Post by claretskeith » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:54 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:48 pm
Assuming there isn't a relegation clause fee in the contract, and I can't imagine there would be given we picked him up from the Championship to start with, what fee would you be happy with realistically?
£20-25m.

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Post by Row Z » Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:57 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:48 pm
Assuming there isn't a relegation clause fee in the contract, and I can't imagine there would be given we picked him up from the Championship to start with, what fee would you be happy with realistically? £12m?

If we were still in the prem I'd be wanting £20m+ but we're not
We weren’t in the prem when we sold Collins for £20m plus were we.

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Post by Hapag Lloyd » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:00 pm

Jacob Greaves went to Ipswich for a reported £18m (£15m+£3m add ons) we should be looking to at least match that.

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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:00 pm

Anything less than £20m would be really poor.
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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:00 pm

I’ll be gutted if we lose O’Shea.

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:04 pm

I'd hope for something similar to what we sold Collins for. But how much did we sign O'Shea for, £8m? Selling him for double what we paid for him 12 months ago wouldn't be bad business.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:05 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:00 pm
I’ll be gutted if we lose O’Shea.
unless he has asked for the move I would be furious
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Post by claretskeith » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:07 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:04 pm
I'd hope for something similar to what we sold Collins for. But how much did we sign O'Shea for, £8m? Selling him for double what we paid for him 12 months ago wouldn't be bad business.
Better business is promotion and the £200+ million. We need to be very careful not to sell all of our best players.
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Post by FeedTheArf » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:09 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:07 pm
Better business is promotion and the £200+ million. We need to be very careful not to sell all of our best players.
The problem is nobody is coming in for the players we're happy to get rid of and we need to balance the books.

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Post by winsomeyen » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:10 pm

ArmchairDetective wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:04 pm
I'd hope for something similar to what we sold Collins for. But how much did we sign O'Shea for, £8m? Selling him for double what we paid for him 12 months ago wouldn't be bad business.
Woudnt be bad business my arse, we are a football club not a bank :roll: :roll:
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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:11 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:05 pm
unless he has asked for the move I would be furious
Has Pace managed to keep a single player that we would ordinarily like to keep who has been linked with a move away? The weight on the clubs neck from his loans means he will always be tempted by offers. Shocking though when he has surely seen the impact O’Shea has on the side literally last night. The player certainly doesn’t seem to be pushing for it on that evidence.

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Post by FeedTheArf » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:12 pm

Row Z wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:57 pm
We weren’t in the prem when we sold Collins for £20m plus were we.
We weren't, but Collins was 4 years younger and we'd signed him for £12m, not the £7m we signed O'Shea for.

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Post by FeedTheArf » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:13 pm

winsomeyen wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:10 pm
Woudnt be bad business my arse, we are a football club not a bank :roll: :roll:
We stopped being a football club when the leveraged buyout happened.

Now it's all about managing the debt and interest payments.
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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:15 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:13 pm
We stopped being a football club when the leveraged buyout happened.

Now it's all about managing the debt and interest payments.

Yeah you are right, we aren't a football club

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Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:15 pm

winsomeyen wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:10 pm
Woudnt be bad business my arse, we are a football club not a bank :roll: :roll:
But down here in the real world, football clubs have to balance their books or they will soon find that what's left of them now belong to a bank.

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Post by winsomeyen » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:16 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:13 pm
We stopped being a football club when the leveraged buyout happened.

Now it's all about managing the debt and interest payments.
As quoted above " better business would be the £200 mill prem money "
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Post by Quicknick » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:17 pm

Just because Brentford are 'closing in', doesn't mean they'll get him. Could just be 'paper talk'.

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:17 pm

How is selling a player for twice what you paid for him bad business? I said 'not bad', not ideal super duper fantastic business.

I even said in the post that ideally we'd want more :lol:

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Post by BurnleyFC » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:20 pm

It’d be disappointing to lose O’Shea now, but if there’s one area of the pitch we’re well stocked it’s at centre half.

Beyer, Al-Dakhil and Ekdal are all terrific options to have.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:20 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:17 pm
Just because Brentford are 'closing in', doesn't mean they'll get him. Could just be 'paper talk'.
When McGrath and Percy are reporting on it, it’s usually on the money

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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:22 pm

As others have said, at this point, the money we’ll get from going back up and then save by already having a genuine PL centre half pairing will dwarf the fee Brentford will pay us now.

This is a real test of our ambition.
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Post by Burnley1989 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:25 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:11 pm
Has Pace managed to keep a single player that we would ordinarily like to keep who has been linked with a move away? The weight on the clubs neck from his loans means he will always be tempted by offers. Shocking though when he has surely seen the impact O’Shea has on the side literally last night. The player certainly doesn’t seem to be pushing for it on that evidence.
The last board did exactly the same, it will be the player that wants the move, he would likely double or even treble his money, harsh to put that on Pace

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Post by daveisaclaret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:27 pm

The club has been pretty clear about wanting to sell players for profit. People won't enjoy it but most of the time that will mean selling our best players. It's also beneficial to our reputation with players we will want to sign in the future if they can see players from Burnley can earn big money moves if we fall out of the PL.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:28 pm

Tbf before the documentary and last nights game if someone said Brentford would pay 15m for O’Shea, a good number of fans would of sold for that

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Post by RVclaret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:30 pm

I’d imagine Parker will go for Nat Phillips as a direct replacement. Like for like and homegrown quota. While the link with Bashir Humpreys would be a replacement for McNally on the bench and also homegrown.

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Post by Steddyman » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:31 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:48 pm
Assuming there isn't a relegation clause fee in the contract, and I can't imagine there would be given we picked him up from the Championship to start with, what fee would you be happy with realistically? £12m?

If we were still in the prem I'd be wanting £20m+ but we're not
A fair price is £17m. Anything less and we should be walking away.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:32 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:11 pm
Has Pace managed to keep a single player that we would ordinarily like to keep who has been linked with a move away? The weight on the clubs neck from his loans means he will always be tempted by offers. Shocking though when he has surely seen the impact O’Shea has on the side literally last night. The player certainly doesn’t seem to be pushing for it on that evidence.

Every player in the Championship wants to play in the Prem. If we were in the Prem and wanted a championship centre half do you think he would want to join us ?

It is only a few months since there was post after post on here telling us how crap O'Shea is

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Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:33 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:09 pm
The problem is nobody is coming in for the players we're happy to get rid of and we need to balance the books.
doesn't matter, just write a nice 'oops sorry' letter and take the 3 point deduction and keep our best players.

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Post by jojomk1 » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:33 pm

Re O'Shea, If we can get the other CB's fit then don't think we could really argue with a price of circa £20-25m plus add ons and sell on clause

Re Central Midfield, Given Chelsea's recent spending spree a loan offer for Chukwuemeka could be a really good signing for us

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Post by Tall Paul » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:36 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:33 pm
doesn't matter, just write a nice 'oops sorry' letter and take the 3 point deduction and keep our best players.
That isn't why the books need balancing.

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Post by TsarBomba » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:36 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:22 pm
As others have said, at this point, the money we’ll get from going back up and then save by already having a genuine PL centre half pairing will dwarf the fee Brentford will pay us now.

This is a real test of our ambition.
Flipping O’Shea for double what we paid is what we’re all about. It’s our raison d’etre.

It wouldn’t be a lack of ambition to sell O’Shea, however much of a loss he would be, because we have a conveyor belt set up to replace him.

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Post by blake's wand » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:37 pm

Whilst player power clearly a very real thing - credit to Leeds for doing a brilliant job of keeping their main players last season after they went down. The finances must have a part to play here.

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Post by jedi_master » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:38 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:36 pm
Flipping O’Shea for double what we paid is what we’re all about. It’s our raison d’etre.

It wouldn’t be a lack of ambition to sell O’Shea, however much of a loss he would be, because we have a conveyor belt set up to replace him.
Would generally agree and it might look a lot more palatable if we didn’t have long term injuries to the three players who’d be in the frame to replace I suppose.
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Post by Murger » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:41 pm

Be disappointing to lose Dara. Even though we are well stocked at CB, I wouldn’t call any of them leaders.

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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:42 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:36 pm
Flipping O’Shea for double what we paid is what we’re all about. It’s our raison d’etre.

It wouldn’t be a lack of ambition to sell O’Shea, however much of a loss he would be, because we have a conveyor belt set up to replace him.
I’m not sure on that conveyor belt to replace him.

He’s one of our few genuine leaders, he’s a PL quality defender so would save us money if we do go back up, and he’s good for several goals a season. He’s one of three players we must keep or we seriously weaken ourselves for going back up.
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Post by mybloodisclaret » Tue Aug 13, 2024 3:42 pm

Until the other high choice centre backs are fit, I wouldn't even consider it unless it is crazy money. Crazy being 23 mill +

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