Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[123EasyasBFC]

That’s the payment structure but all of it is guaranteed.

So 30 guaranteed with 7m more in add ons and a sell on clause

[BigChaCha]

BigChaCha wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:52 pm
Odobert will be at the bare minimum, worth 40m to 50m in 2 or 3 seasons...

Silkyskills1 wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 4:12 pm
Another sweeping statement. Just what elements of his game have you seen to warrant such a Trump-style claim?

SalouClaret wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 3:17 pm
... and such. We're not lads. One or two will go sure, but these big bids you seem convinced are coming are not going to be. No one is going to buy Odobert

BigGaz wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2024 3:20 pm
We will not sell Wilson Odobert in this transfer window at a profit.

Pin that on your wall, stick it in your calendar.

Aged like a fine wine!

[Swizzlestick]

You always want to keep your better players, but you cannot argue with that fee. Great business. I'll hold my hands up and say I was on the more cynical side about Odobert, but he's got a big move there and will be interesting to see if he kicks on.

It doesn't matter who owns the club, we are not turning offers like that down.

[LongsideClaret]

So 30 guaranteed with 7m more in add ons and a sell on clause

The £30 plus £7 he posted was an error. Now been corrected to Euros.

[agreenwood]

Sounds like Spurs are briefing the lowest possible end of the deal and we’re briefing the highest. Either way, it puts any thought that we’d accept a low offer for him to bed.

These silly transfer PR games do beg the question as to why they don’t just release the full details of the deal in the first place.

[ElectroClaret]

25 mil Would be good
30 mil Would be fantastic
37 mil Would be utterly brilliant

Incredible money.
(Remember the David Reeves bucket?)

[sjb]

The £30 plus £7 he posted was an error. Now been corrected to Euros.

I would have been a tad surprised if even Daniel Levy had managed to get him for £37.

[Steddyman]

Ugarte out of PSG squad, likely United bound. Looks like we get to keep Berge:

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1824387147647893710

[ArthurNohair]

I can’t understand the disappointment and even disbelief that we’re selling Odobert. Our board have made no secret about their business plan to invest in young talent, give them a platform to play/develop and then sell them on for a profit. It’s a very quick turnaround and fast profit for odobert and from the players point of view he’s playing for Burnley in the championship and has the opportunity to play for one of the ‘top 6’ (although I hate that term), play in Europe and possibly put himself in contention for a place in the France squad.

Yes it would have been lovely to see him flourish in a claret and blue shirt for another season or two but sadly it’s not in our business model and probably not within our grasp as a club of our size.

I thoroughly enjoyed watching Wilson play for the clarets and no doubt will enjoy watching the next spark of young talent that the club decides to invest in to replace him.

[billyhamilton82]

Ok so far in this window, we have already recouped nearly £50m (including £10m for VK), not bad to say we have only lost two players who would have been involved with the first team.

Certainly got top dollar, the model seems to be triple the money we initially paid out.

Muric - bought for £2.5m sold for £8m (plus add ons)

Odobert - bought for £10m sold for £30m (plus add ons) (plus sell on)

Whatever anyone thinks about Alan Pace and his team of businessmen/directors, they definitely know what they are doing.

There has been no panic or selling just to get rid, everything has been done methodically without affecting the team unduly and making sure we receive what players are worth in the market.

Obviously Odobert will be a miss but to receive £30m after relegation is a very good deal based mainly on potential and therefore very replaceable currently.

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[BigGaz]

Aged like a fine wine!

Again, happy to be proven wrong but these two comments don't prove your position right.

This transfer doesn't put his value at 40-50m within 2 years and nothing to say he goes on to further enhance his value so by all means enjoy me being wrong but youre not right yet.

[bpgburn]

I'm addressing the part where I said we wouldn't sell anyone over 20m. I'm stunned that we have but happy to have been proven wrong.

It's also not correct that we paid 8m for him so you're wrong on that one.

We Paid 10m so he's not as wrong as you saying we will not sell him this season for a profit on top of saying we won't sell anyone for over 20m. Just hold your hands up pal, you're making yasel look silly..

[Pearcey]

Ugarte out of PSG squad, likely United bound. Looks like we get to keep Berge:

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1824387147647893710

Until someone else comes in.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Does anyone think this means we keep Berge

[Woodleyclaret]

The model buying low selling high is a massive improvement on our previous Happy Shopper mentality .

[gandhisflipflop]

I think if we can get 20m for amdouni. I’d keep the rest and play hard ball

[BigGaz]

We Paid 10m so he's not as wrong as you saying we will not sell him this season for a profit on top of saying we won't sell anyone for over 20m. Just hold your hands up pal, you're making yasel look silly..

That's also incorrect, we didn't pay 10m for him. So you're wrong there.

"Im stunned that we have but happy to have been proven wrong."

It's literally right there

[123EasyasBFC]

Does anyone think this means we keep Berge

Berge would play the Odobert position from Monday night even better imo

[123EasyasBFC]

The £30 plus £7 he posted was an error. Now been corrected to Euros.

Thanks for clarifying, either way it’s a great fee. Hope the news you get about exits isn’t O’Shea, Berge or koleosho

[Newcastleclaret93]

Berge would play the Odobert position from Monday night even better imo

Think Amdouni is the one to play there personally

[CoolClaret]

Muric was 10 rising to 15, just to bump things closer to your 50

Ah ok, in any instance (even on fees we've spent!) best using the more conservative estimate I'd say...

Either way, now we don't need to roll over with O'Shea or Berge, silly fees or no deal.

[Commy]

No doubt they are working hard behind the scenes to find another gem to replace him.

[BigChaCha]

The only serious downside to this model I can foresee is that we will never be able to create heroes for our younger fans... The best thing about being a Burnley fan has always been those connections between us and the players, especially wingers who we love...

Under this model, we would have never have had heroes like David Eyres, Ted McMinn or Glen Little!... They would have been sold long before they could build a rapport with the fans...

For those connections to happen and for heroes to be born, they need to stay with us for a good 2 or 3 seasons at least... I can predict a haemorrhaging of our younger fans in the medium to long term, who have no player to look up to as an idol or role model because they are just not here long enough, especially the flair players!

[Swizzlestick]

Ugarte out of PSG squad, likely United bound. Looks like we get to keep Berge:

https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1824387147647893710

Let's not be too hasty. Not one person in the media knew about this Odobert deal.

[ArmchairDetective]

Think Amdouni is the one to play there personally

If he's up for putting a shift in with us for another year to help us back to the PL then I'd happily back him to have a run of games there.

[CoolClaret]

The only serious downside to this model I can foresee is that we will never be able to create heroes for our younger fans... The best thing about being a Burnley fan has always been those connections between us and the players, especially wingers who we love...

Under this model, we would have never have had heroes like David Eyres, Ted McMinn or Glen Little!... They would have been sold long before they could build a rapport with the fans...

For those connections to happen and for heroes to be born, they need to stay with us for a good 2 or 3 seasons at least... I can predict a haemorrhaging of our younger fans in the medium to long term, who have no player to look up to as an idol or role model because they are just not here long enough, especially the flair players!

Sadly, this is the reality of modern football. It's about striking that perfect balance between buying players for development + sale and maintaining team continuity. Checketts alluded to this per MtB2 - "Who are our 5 guys to see out the project?"

My advice to parents would be: don't rush to get the names of our best young players on the back of your kid's shirts, especially if the player is in their second or third season with the club.

[123EasyasBFC]

Sadly, this is the reality of modern football. It's about striking that perfect balance between buying players for development + sale and maintaining team continuity. Checketts alluded to this per MtB2 - "Who are our 5 guys to see out the project?"

My advice to parents would be: don't rush to get the names of our best young players on the back of your kid's shirts, especially if the player is in their second or third season with the club.

Club literally advise the last paragraph at every new shirt launch. Yet you still get fans of clubs moaning on social media that their kids favourite player has left after getting their name on the shirt. Don’t be so stupid and wait till after the window

[Woodleyclaret]

Trevor Steven a case in point, sold far too early into his Burnley career

[Conroy92]

Again, happy to be proven wrong but these two comments don't prove your position right.

This transfer doesn't put his value at 40-50m within 2 years and nothing to say he goes on to further enhance his value so by all means enjoy me being wrong but youre not right yet.

Might not prove him right but certainly proved you wrong. Stick that in your calendar won't sell odebert for a profit and your still giving it big ones.
And the comments about Tresor are really embarrassing. He's not fit and may have mental health issues.

[mdd2]

The £30 plus £7 he posted was an error. Now been corrected to Euros.

Works out at £25million +£5mill addons and there is an apparent 10% of any profit sell on clause

[SirBob]

No doubt they are working hard behind the scenes to find another gem to replace him.

Hountondji

[FeedTheArf]

Think Amdouni is the one to play there personally

Assuming it's too early for Amdouni, I'd be tempted to go 2 up front. Jay is perfectly capable or we see what the new lad can do (way too soon to attempt spelling his name! )

[BigGaz]

That'll be the second time you've virtue signalled that without any evidence. Is that the answer for everyone who performs at a disgraceful level for 8 months now? Like always though I'll hold my hands up and apologise if I'm wrong but I think it's a dangerous road to go down where we just immediately assign TERRIBLE form to a possible mental health issue.

What am I giving it big ones about exactly? I've admitted I've got it wrong and I'm happy to do so - pleasantly surprised even - but since we're calling out things that are wrong I will do the same.

[Stan Tastic]

Trevor Steven a case in point, sold far too early into his Burnley career

We'd just been relegated to the third division and a top first division club came in for him, which was certainly his level. What did you expect?

[burnley007]

Where's JBL at?

Stick a cheeky bid in, get him home.

[morninbob]

Where's JBL at?

Stick a cheeky bid in, get him home.

This, 5m Euros wasn't it?

[SalouClaret]

In this window, we will not sell WO at a profit.

12m Euros is the widely reported fee.

My stance is that anyone in their right mind would want to look and see how this talented yet occasionally threatening and lightweight youngster gets on at champ level for 6 months or so first.

Remember the £20 bet we made? Donate it to Cancer Research UK, please and thank you

[Spijed]

The only serious downside to this model I can foresee is that we will never be able to create heroes for our younger fans... The best thing about being a Burnley fan has always been those connections between us and the players, especially wingers who we love...

Under this model, we would have never have had heroes like David Eyres, Ted McMinn or Glen Little!... They would have been sold long before they could build a rapport with the fans...

For those connections to happen and for heroes to be born, they need to stay with us for a good 2 or 3 seasons at least... I can predict a haemorrhaging of our younger fans in the medium to long term, who have no player to look up to as an idol or role model because they are just not here long enough, especially the flair players!

I'd have thought getting promoted is far more important than creating heroes.

[BigGaz]

Remember the £20 bet we made? Donate it to Cancer Research UK, please and thank you

Absolutely, all predictions and wagers made in good faith.

I've not done this in a while so hopefully this works.

right click test

[TsarBomba]

https://x.com/andreavivaldi21/status/18 ... 17668?s=46

Juventus fan page- Juventus ‘thinking’ about Koleosho.

No source provided.

[123EasyasBFC]

https://x.com/andreavivaldi21/status/18 ... 17668?s=46

Juventus fan page- Juventus ‘thinking’ about Koleosho.

No source provided.

216 followers to

[SalouClaret]

Absolutely, all predictions and wagers made in good faith.

I've not done this in a while so hopefully this works.

right click test

Top man!

[TsarBomba]

216 followers to

Yeah, no doubt garbage.

[TsarBomba]

Leeds fan on X-

We go into Saturday with a first team squad of 19 including 3 kids, Wober and Aaronsson who don’t want to be here, Gnonto who will likely go, Strujik in talks with Fulham, Bamford who has 14 goals in his last 71 appearances, out of form Rodon, Joffy, a loanee and 3 keepers #LUFC

[The Shire Claret]

Sadly, this is the reality of modern football. It's about striking that perfect balance between buying players for development + sale and maintaining team continuity. Checketts alluded to this per MtB2 - "Who are our 5 guys to see out the project?"

My advice to parents would be: don't rush to get the names of our best young players on the back of your kid's shirts, especially if the player is in their second or third season with the club.

Using Tella as an example - you don't always have to be at a club for a long time to be a legend ....

See plenty of shirts with his name and they arent wasted - they are a memory of good times !

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[ArmchairDetective]

Rumour from a Bristol City fan I know is that Twine has signed for them.

No idea about the credibility of the source so don't shoot the messenger

[123EasyasBFC]

Rumour from a Bristol City fan I know is that Twine has signed for them.

No idea about the credibility of the source so don't shoot the messenger

Soon see tomorrow won’t we when squads are announced

[ArmchairDetective]

Rumour from a Bristol City fan I know is that Twine has signed for them.

No idea about the credibility of the source so don't shoot the messenger

At their training ground apparently.

[claretskeith]

Rumour from a Bristol City fan I know is that Twine has signed for them.

No idea about the credibility of the source so don't shoot the messenger

Fine by me. Ideally a perm move.

[boyyanno]

At their training ground apparently.

Would make sense as Conway has just gone.