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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Stayingup » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:29 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:19 am
I hope not, we can't compete with Leeds on any level unfortunately
Hopefully on the pitch we can more than compete with them.

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Post by Blyclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:32 am

Potentially a bigger club but living on past memories
Med table championship team …as opposed to top table team.
bigger wages paid … I don’t think so

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Post by mybloodisclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:33 am

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:21 am
Do we and Leeds have the same scouting/analytic research on players, oarticularly midfield and wingers where we always seem to be linked with the same player, or is there a mole in either camp.
I think what is more likely happening is that clubs know we want a player, and then let a story out that Leeds are also interested to hurry things along and inflate the price. Sarmiento? Hannibal? The lad from Paris FC? All seems very coincidental to me.

Either that are Leeds have no scouting network, are listening to journo's and going after players we are linked with.

EDIT: having noted Commy bringing up French Ligue2 player.

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Post by ANASS » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:37 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:27 am
I'll give you three and you can work the rest out yourself

Bigger club

More pulling power

Bigger wage structure
Bigger club, yes I’ll give you that.

More pulling power? They’ve signed no one significant and let most of their assets leave, so I wouldn’t agree with that.

Wage structure would be very similar imo, would even probably favour us.

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Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:39 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:27 am
I'll give you three and you can work the rest out yourself

Bigger club

More pulling power

Bigger wage structure
less chance of being a Premier League team next year

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:41 am

Romano trotting the Humphrey’s deal is £12m with £2.7m add ons. Sounds a bit steep if true

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:41 am

Stayingup wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:29 am
Hopefully on the pitch we can more than compete with them.
I think on the pitch at the moment we can definitely compete with them but when it comes to a race for a player I think we come off second best

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Post by Commy » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:43 am

Weren't they supposedly in for the defender from Chelsea that we are signing? At the minute we are the better prospect. They have lost a lot of their better players and have only about 19 left in the squad.
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Post by Blyclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:44 am

Humphries dident think so

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Post by Blyclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:45 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:41 am
I think on the pitch at the moment we can definitely compete with them but when it comes to a race for a player I think we come off second best
Humphries dident think so

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Post by Dodobdobodobo » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:47 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:36 am
Where’s he been linked? Can’t see any link to him
Some random twitter (X) account. It’s just as plausible as half the $hi¥ other posters put on the board.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:47 am

Dodobdobodobo wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:47 am
Some random twitter (X) account. It’s just as plausible as half the $hi¥ other posters put on the board.
Nothing on twitter remotely linking us with burger

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:48 am

Blyclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:32 am
Potentially a bigger club but living on past memories
Med table championship team …as opposed to top table team.
bigger wages paid … I don’t think so

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Hipper » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:50 am

jlup1980 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:34 am
I don't think any of us really want to see Benson leave. He scored some incredible goals in our last Championship campaign and gave us a moment at Ewood that will never be forgotten. However, as much a I like him, it's telling that Kompany rarely started him in the Championship and then chose to completely ignore him last season. On top of that, Parker hasn't given him a minute during the first two games. The Manager see's more than we do. There must be a reason Houtondji, Amdouni, Gudmundsson, Weghorst, Massengo and Zaroury have all been given the nod off the bench before him.
The problem is we have no idea if Benson has progressed as, say, Vitinho has, especially defensively. He was on the bench for both games, unused of course, but he was not what was required in either match. With Vitinho looking good on the right, both defensively and in attack, there is no place for Benson. Zaroury is more versatile as he seems to be able to play on both wings (however I'm not convinced he is good enough at the moment). If Vitinho goes or gets injured, with our current set up (which of course may still evolve) Benson has his limitations.

On Saturday at Sunderland with Clarke on the left I would expect Vitinho to be playing.

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Post by Hipper » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:52 am

Dark Cloud wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 8:32 pm
I agree and I believe it's because Parker seems to have moved away from Kompany's Idea that Vitihno can play full back. I've been saying for 2 years he's a very good player in the opposition half, but can be something of a liability in ours. Yes, as a winger he still has some defensive duties, but when his main purpose is offensive he looks a miles better player (imo).
Vitinho seems to have improved defensively in the two games so far and I like him playing as he does. He had a short stint at left back at Luton after Pires went off and did well.
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Post by Steddyman » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:52 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:13 am
I've NEVER said he shouldn't be sold so please don't mis quote me
I didn't 'quote' you. I know you were clarifying that all those players are legends by the logic of other posters.

I was following the thread to the logical conclusion that if someone 'was' a legend, then we can't sell them.

Benny certainly was not a legend last season, probably through no fault of his own, but who knows.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:56 am

Anybody have any info on this guy?
From The Athletic: Aston Villa winger Samuel Iling-Junior is exploring potential loan options ahead of the transfer window deadline.
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Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:57 am

Benson made 2 short, late appearances at the end of last season and was more threatening than anybody else all season.

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Post by NewClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:58 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:48 am
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They won’t be paying higher salaries now their parachute payments have disappeared. Thats why they’re selling all and sundry.

That’s why it’s so important to go straight back up and why I fear we’re cutting too deep on the selling side!

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Post by Steddyman » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:00 am

Humphrey's announced

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:00 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:56 am
Anybody have any info on this guy?
From The Athletic: Aston Villa winger Samuel Iling-Junior is exploring potential loan options ahead of the transfer window deadline.
All I know is he is excellent on Footy manager

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:01 am

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:58 am
They won’t be paying higher salaries now their parachute payments have disappeared. Thats why they’re selling all and sundry.

That’s why it’s so important to go straight back up and why I fear we’re cutting too deep on the selling side!
That's a quote for this season

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Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:01 am

Humphreys deal done

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:02 am

I hope Parker tells Pace to chill now he’s getting giddy selling everyone. He’ll be ripping out the seats next and selling them.

We need to keep the better players and build for hopefully another promotion.

Sell the crap by all means

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Post by Steddyman » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:03 am

Interestingly, it is not a mandatory option, it is a genuine option to buy.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:04 am

Blyclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:44 am
Humphries dident think so
Were Leeds in for him, did they hold talks like we did or was it just showing interest. It's a big difference because I believe if both clubs talked to him he'd of gone to Leeds

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Post by NewClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:04 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:57 am
Benson made 2 short, late appearances at the end of last season and was more threatening than anybody else all season.
Agree entirely we this. We look a completely different threat the moment he walks on the pitch. He may not be a 90 minute player but the sort you need to win a championship and turn tight games.

Madness if we sell him.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:06 am

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:02 am
Obligatory signing video: https://x.com/burnleyofficial/status/18 ... 6QKwfgixkA
Brilliant announcement video
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Post by BigGaz » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:06 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:19 am
I hope not, we can't compete with Leeds on any level unfortunately
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by NewClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:06 am

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:41 am
Romano trotting the Humphrey’s deal is £12m with £2.7m add ons. Sounds a bit steep if true
I was going to say, I’d heard it was a loan with an obligation.

Fabs comments worrying me a bit it was a purchase as would’ve assumed that meant Esteve was getting offers.

Now been confirmed by the club as a loan with option.

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Post by Stonehouse » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:10 am

BigGaz wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:06 am
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Is Agent Claret from Yarkshire?😂
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:12 am

Stonehouse wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:10 am
Is Agent Claret from Yarkshire?😂
Don't be dirty :lol: :lol:
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Post by Dodobdobodobo » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:12 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:47 am
Nothing on twitter remotely linking us with burger
Never heard of him so I could hardly make it up 🙁

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Post by BigGaz » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:13 am

Either that or he's been smoking banana peels again.

The day we cannot compete with the likes of Leeds United is the day we should just all pack it up and take up watching "a place in the sun" reruns for the rest of time.

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Post by BigGaz » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:18 am

In all seriousness Leeds are on a financial knife edge. They are effectively where we will be this time next year if we don't get up.

One last push before the Parachutes completely run out and they return to the pool of clubs that have no major competitive advantage in terms of money and back to praying that they can have a miracle season against the next 3 that come down through the trapdoor with buckets of cash.

*Shudder*

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Post by boyyanno » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:18 am

I think the option to buy is better.

Means we don't get stuck with a Tresor but hopefully we don't lose someone who could be another Maatsen.

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Post by Casper2 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:19 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:19 am
I hope not, we can't compete with Leeds on any level unfortunately
Charlie Taylor ?
Chris Wood ?

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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:21 am

Yes hopefully the conflict in reports regarding the option to buy vs obligation to buy works in Burnley's favour.

If we go up we can spend the money on him, and if we fail to go up, we're not committed to what is a very large fee for a Championship club.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:22 am

Casper2 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:19 am
Charlie Taylor ?
Chris Wood ?
This season not yester year, how far do you want to go back to try and prove a point :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:23 am

BigGaz wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:18 am
In all seriousness Leeds are on a financial knife edge. They are effectively where we will be this time next year if we don't get up.

One last push before the Parachutes completely run out and they return to the pool of clubs that have no major competitive advantage in terms of money and back to praying that they can have a miracle season against the next 3 that come down through the trapdoor with buckets of cash.

*Shudder*
Maybe returning to the last time the money ran out when they went from Mark Viduka to Ian Moore ...

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Post by Casper2 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:23 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:22 am
This season not yester year, how far do you want to go back to try and prove a point :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You said any level

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Post by Burnley Ace » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:24 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:57 am
Benson made 2 short, late appearances at the end of last season and was more threatening than anybody else all season.
He really wasn’t! Have you looked at the stats for his actual performance, uninspiring at best.

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Post by Shaggy » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:24 am

BigGaz wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:18 am
In all seriousness Leeds are on a financial knife edge. They are effectively where we will be this time next year if we don't get up.

One last push before the Parachutes completely run out and they return to the pool of clubs that have no major competitive advantage in terms of money and back to praying that they can have a miracle season against the next 3 that come down through the trapdoor with buckets of cash.

*Shudder*
Our financial position is nothing close to Leeds. They owe over £190m in instalments from transfers for a start.

Our position is healthy and we will be absolutely fine should we run out of parachute payments.

Some people just love to bash our financial model because they don’t understand it.
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:26 am

Casper2 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:23 am
You said any level
When in a foot race for a player we both want, Club size, pulling power, fan base, wages, does it really need pointing out to you
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Post by Casper2 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:28 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:26 am
Club size, pulling power, fan base, wages, does it really need pointing out to you
You’ve missed out Champions of Europe
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Post by GetIntoEm » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:28 am

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Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:29 am

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All I see there is they pay a cry baby far too much money
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Post by summitclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:29 am

Some people just love to bash our young goalkeeper because they don’t understand why he was started in the PL prematurely.

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Post by BigGaz » Wed Aug 21, 2024 10:30 am

I understand it fully. I understand enough to know that it will work great until it doesn't.

What we've learnt over the last season is that our ever so clever American overlords are not immune to

- making mistakes
- hubris
- naivety
- having the wool pulled over their eyes.

They, and their financial model are not infallible so you can take your condescension and shove it up your hoop.

All the best

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