Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Commy]

I thought Brownhill was too good for the Championship but not good enough for the Premier League. Why would a Premier team come in for him if that was the case.

[Swizzlestick]

When do we call this a fire sale?

When something totally different to what is actually happening starts happening.

[Row x]

When do we call this a fire sale?

When it fits the definition of a fire sale

Not even close

[billyhamilton82]

When do we call this a fire sale?

When you don't understand what the term "fire sale" means.

[Steddyman]

You think it would be wise to sell our captain, top scorer and one of the best midfielders in Championship for 7m? It would be more beneficial to let him stay and go for nothing next summer.

Nope, but I didn't say I would sell him for £7m. But I can see why Alan would. He has a ready made captain in Worral.

[burnleymik]

I thought Brownhill was too good for the Championship but not good enough for the Premier League. Why would a Premier team come in for him if that was the case.

Not to be flippant, but it only matters if they think Brownhill is good enough, not your opinion on him.

[winsomeyen]

Scott Arfield to Bolton.

[KlyBfc]

Im starting to find myself logging on now just to see if LongsideClaret has put any updates on.

I hope we don’t sell Amdouni or Brownhill (or even Benny for that matter).

[BleedingClaret]

Can’t see anywhere about Ipswich bidding £15m for O’Shea.

On sky transfer RUMOURS that they’re in talks
No figure mentioned

[claretskeith]

Im starting to find myself logging on now just to see if LongsideClaret has put any updates on.

Here you go - don't wear your F5 key out!

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[Quicknick]

Im starting to find myself logging on now just to see if LongsideClaret has put any updates on.

I hope we don’t sell Amdouni or Brownhill (or even Benny for that matter).

I'll be quite happy if Benson goes.

[Hedontplayforyou]

I think this is due to a report saying that wolves are struggling to meet our valuation of O’Shea , therefore putting Ipswich in the driving seat if they do indeed want him, given that Brentford have signed the lad from Liverpool instead .

[Commy]

Not to be flippant, but it only matters if they think Brownhill is good enough, not your opinion on him.

That isn't my opinion. It is what quite a lot of people on here think. Read properly what I wrote.

[Row x]

That isn't my opinion. It is what quite a lot of people on here think. Read properly what I wrote.

It does actually read like it's your opinion to be fair

[AfloatinClaret]

That isn't my opinion. It is what quite a lot of people on here think. Read properly what I wrote.

But unless any of that 'quite a lot of people on here' are in a decision making position at Ipswich, their opinions don't matter either

[williamjblazkowicz]

That isn't my opinion. It is what quite a lot of people on here think. Read properly what I wrote.

To be fair, what you wrote could easily have been interpreted as your opinion.

[KRBFC]

I’m surprised players like O’Shea and Clarke would consider Ipswich a good move for them, almost certain to be relegated and those two players are back playing in the Championship. I’d strongly fancy us and Ipswich will swap leagues next summer, then what does O’Shea do? Stuck in the same cycle, he’s better building something here imo

[Anonymous Claret]

I’m surprised players like O’Shea and Clarke would consider Ipswich a good move for them, almost certain to be relegated and those two players are back playing in the Championship. I’d strongly fancy us and Ipswich will swap leagues next summer, then what does O’Shea do? Stuck in the same cycle, he’s better building something here imo

Probably doubling or trebling their salaries. It is probably that simple.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I’m surprised players like O’Shea and Clarke would consider Ipswich a good move for them, almost certain to be relegated and those two players are back playing in the Championship. I’d strongly fancy us and Ipswich will swap leagues next summer, then what does O’Shea do? Stuck in the same cycle, he’s better building something here imo

You’re probably right but potentially they see the project at Ipswich as being more attractive than Burnley?

[Steddyman]

I think Ipswich will do really well. They have the energy a Dyche Burnley did at the peak, and he did pretty well keeping teams of Championship players up.

[Commy]

I didn't mention anywhere that it was my opinion. I put 'IF' at the beginning which, read properly, indicates what is thought not what is my opinion.

[Row x]

I thought Brownhill was too good for the Championship but not good enough for the Premier League. Why would a Premier team come in for him if that was the case.

Sounds like your opinion to me "I thought" gives it away

[ecc]

Instead of falling out can we just stick to the point of this thread, please?

[jojomk1]

I think Ipswich will do really well. They have the energy a Dyche Burnley did at the peak, and he did pretty well keeping teams of Championship players up.

Could be as high as mid table

Just like some on here thought of us last season

See very little in their squad capable of scoring goals

[KRBFC]

Probably doubling or trebling their salaries. It is probably that simple.

For 9 months until they’re relegated and their salary is cut in half?

[Woodleyclaret]

I agree Ipswich will be straight down

[Commy]

Wasn't it rumoured last week that he knocked them back as he wanted to go to Brentford? Wonder if his agent has gone back to them now Brentford, and possibly Wolves, are out of the picture.

[Mattster]

I’m surprised players like O’Shea and Clarke would consider Ipswich a good move for them, almost certain to be relegated and those two players are back playing in the Championship. I’d strongly fancy us and Ipswich will swap leagues next summer, then what does O’Shea do? Stuck in the same cycle, he’s better building something here imo

Ipswich vs. Burnley =

Guaranteed Prem football this season vs. Possible Prem football next season

Pretty straightforward. Plus they'll probably put relegation clauses in their contracts should the worst happen and feel they can move on again if they want to.

[KRBFC]

Ipswich vs. Burnley =

Guaranteed Prem football this season vs. Possible Prem football next season

Pretty straightforward. Plus they'll probably put relegation clauses in their contracts should the worst happen and feel they can move on again if they want to.

So he’s just going to bounce up and down every year and move clubs?

[Tricky Trevor]

If you watch the second goal he actually attempted to pass to Brownhill
Brownhill then scuffed the ball and it ended up with Koleosho who scored
A legend maybe, but we should have a better starter this season
And we still need at least one if not two CM's to challenge for starts

Correct Jay laid it on for Josh who messed up.

[Mattster]

So he’s just going to bounce up and down every year and move clubs?

If Ipswich are relegated, possibly. But that's all hypotheticals, the certainties are if he moves to Ipswich now he plays Premier League football this season and gets a paid more for the next 10 months. If he stays with Burnley he plays Championship football this season and gets paid less than he did last year.

Next season is completely up in the air, there is just as much chance Ipswich stay up and Burnley stay down as the opposite outcome.

[Stockbrokerbelt]

Another rumour like Esteve, some folk can’t help themselves.

[Tricky Trevor]

The strangest part of selling Brownhill for £7m is that we would have to lay out most of that on a replacement who may or may not adapt.
Keep him and try to get him on a new contract.

[kentonclaret]

The strangest part of selling Brownhill for £7m is that we would have to lay out most of that on a replacement who may or may not adapt.
Keep him and try to get him on a new contract.

No wonder the club were so desperate to bring in a player with leadership qualities if they are planning to cash in on O’Shea and Brownhill.

[Steddyman]

The strangest part of selling Brownhill for £7m is that we would have to lay out most of that on a replacement who may or may not adapt.
Keep him and try to get him on a new contract.

He's made it clear he won't sign an extension. If you spent £7m on a replacement, at least you have an asset with potential resale value.

[kentonclaret]

Not many clubs rip out the spine of the team and go on to have a successful season.

[bpgburn]

No wonder the club were so desperate to bring in a player with leadership qualities if they are planning to cash in on O’Shea and Brownhill.

Where have you seen that the club are planning on selling Brownhill? Also where have you heard that the club were "desperate" to bring in a player with leadership qualities?

[brexit]

No source other than hearsay from a pal who is a palace fan and works for them. Brownhill to sign for them £7m plus add one

its west ham and 17m

[brexit]

When you don't understand what the term "fire sale" means.

Fire sale usually means smoke damaged goods being sold below their value.
From what I have seen in this window, we are selling low quality goods for a good price.

[Carport]

Not many clubs rip out the spine of the team and go on to have a successful season.

Great point and I thought in M2BII AP insinuated that relegation would not lead to a fire sale. A bit concerned that it’s now approaching that.

[ervi34]

He's made it clear he won't sign an extension. If you spent £7m on a replacement, at least you have an asset with potential resale value.

Again, not every single move me make has to strictly fit the "model". I think it would be smarter to keep your captain and key player and let him go on free instead of selling him on cheap just because we *might* make a profit on his replacement in three-four years.

[BigGaz]

He's made it clear he won't sign an extension. If you spent £7m on a replacement, at least you have an asset with potential resale value.

That's the intel I was given. Maybe SP can change his mind but from what I was told this will be his last season and that he fancies a move abroad.

[Row x]

Not many clubs rip out the spine of the team and go on to have a successful season.

2 years ago?

[Clovius Boofus]

We are more like a shop where you can buy footballers, than a football club. Yes, and I know that every player has his price, but still, it feels like we'd sell everyone and end up with no playing staff, if the price was right.

[AGENT_CLARET]

We are more like a shop where you can buy footballers, than a football club. Yes, and I know that every player has his price, but still, it feels like we'd sell everyone and end up with no playing staff, if the price was right.

How many of the starting 11 against Cardiff last weekend have been sold

[Quicknick]

Not many clubs rip out the spine of the team and go on to have a successful season.

None, I'd imagine. Which would explain why we haven't.

[Big Vinny K]

We are more like a shop where you can buy footballers, than a football club. Yes, and I know that every player has his price, but still, it feels like we'd sell everyone and end up with no playing staff, if the price was right.

And then do what ?

I’m no fan of the owners for sure but you think that they are prepared to sell every player and end up with no players ? So effectively drop out of all the leagues and end up with no club ?

What would be the point of buying all the players we have brought in during the last few weeks ?

Just accept it for what it is…..we had too many players, too much debt, and too little revenue after being relegated to cover our commitments. Selling players is the only option if you don’t have sugar daddy owners prepared to cover £50m or £60m losses every season….and we know we don’t have that.

It’s crap….but that is our club now (and many others). Our previous ownership model (which many of our fans were also not happy with) was the exception not the rule.

[ClaretAndJew]

When money is needed to keep something in business everything becomes about money.

Football is a product, we are the customers, the players are the commodity.

Money rules all.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Can anybody translate

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[kentonclaret]

When money is needed to keep something in business everything becomes about money.

Football is a product, we are the customers, the players are the commodity.

Money rules all.

The Balance Sheet trumps the Team Sheet every time.