Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[bobinho]

I think the reaction on here at times is priceless.

The squad depth needs reducing. Most sensible fans will see that the time to make judgement will be when the window closes.

We have had a brilliant start to the season so far, but with the reaction on here, you think we hadn't.

Exactly. And which of our outgoings were critical to the two fantastic results we’ve had so far?

[CrosspoolClarets]

What I’m going to do is wait until the window shuts, see the squad value for each team of, say, the next game they play for first XI and bench. Then if we rank teams in that order it won’t be far off the finishing positions in May.

We are currently top 2 on that metric, the key is if we slip down by selling a few more and not replacing them. I doubt we will but it would be a huge error if so.

[claretskeith]

What I’m going to do is wait until the window shuts, see the squad value for each team of, say, the next game they play for first XI and bench. Then if we rank teams in that order it won’t be far off the finishing positions in May.

We are currently top 2 on that metric, the key is if we slip down by selling a few more and not replacing them. I doubt we will but it would be a huge error if so.

Who do you have as top?

[kentonclaret]

Exactly. And which of our outgoings were critical to the two fantastic results we’ve had so far?

Of the players that have either departed (or rumoured to be departing by some posters on here) I would suggest that Odobert, Vitinho, JBG, O’Shea and Brownhill were all fairly influential in gaining those 2 victories. All five players made goal contributions for starters.
I have no idea whether the rumour about Brownhill has any substance to it.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Who do you have as top?

Currently ourselves and Leeds are miles ahead but that could change, I hope not.

If we exclude players not currently fit our squad value goes down a fair bit, Beyer etc. That’s why I said I’d base it on the first squad and bench after the window. Those other players we have though may still play a part later.

I use Transfermarkt and accept that can be a bit iffy.

[wadeswondergoal]

I’ve seen on twitter that we are refusing to pay £4m for Johnston, whereas Sheff Utd are willing to.

[LongsideClaret]

O’Shea won’t be playing tomorrow, Ipswich move getting nearer. Had been waiting for Brentford but they went elsewhere.

£15m +£2m

[claretskeith]

O’Shea won’t be playing tomorrow, Ipswich move getting nearer. Had been waiting for Brentford but they went elsewhere.
£15m +£2m

Any updates on potential incomings? Because we need some.

[NewClaret]

O’Shea won’t be playing tomorrow, Ipswich move getting nearer. Had been waiting for Brentford but they went elsewhere.

£15m +£2m

That’s a real shame. Worrall replacing him? Or someone else?

I’m not as worried as I would have been had Clarke been playing though.

Absolutely outrageous if he goes for less than Greaves who was £15m + £3.5m.

[GrahamBranchsPerm]

Hopefully Joe Worrall is ready, seems to be.

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[Woodleyclaret]

Madness if we sell Dara for £15m with some Liverpool reserve going for £22m
Also with Ipswich coming straight back down it's not a sensible move for him

[claretskeith]

Hopefully Joe Worrall is ready, seems to be.

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I guess we'll find out. Not sure we have any other central defenders fit?

[randomclaret2]

O’Shea won’t be playing tomorrow, Ipswich move getting nearer. Had been waiting for Brentford but they went elsewhere.

£15m +£2m

I reckon that takes us over the £100m mark...

[claretskeith]

I reckon that takes us over the £100m mark...

Give it time, it'll be the £200m mark.

[Boss Hogg]

£100 million should repay some of the club debt it didn’t have pre the new owners and keep them in huge incomes, houses and range rovers for a few years yet. Maybe they might stick around for a bit longer.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Gutted to lose DOS, I think he's a top player and will be missed if we get promoted.

To put it into perspective though, last time we won the league with Beyer, THB, AAD and Ekdal as CBs. This time round we will might have Beyer, Esteve, Worrall, Humphreys (Ekdal and Delcroix probably still there as well) - better options (if they all stay).

[FeedTheArf]

Madness if we sell Dara for £15m with some Liverpool reserve going for £22m
Also with Ipswich coming straight back down it's not a sensible move for him

Fact of life. Big clubs get big fees for ordinary players.

[colne-claret]

I’ve seen on twitter that we are refusing to pay £4m for Johnston, whereas Sheff Utd are willing to.

Maybe we fancy Sarmiento more. Wishful thinking on my part.

[gandhisflipflop]

£100 million should repay some of the club debt it didn’t have pre the new owners and keep them in huge incomes, houses and range rovers for a few years yet. Maybe they might stick around for a bit longer.

Absolute codswallap.

[RVclaret]

Kompany 11-12
Muric 10-15
BPF 0.5
Vigouroux 0.5
Twine 3.5-4
Odobert 30
Zaroury 7.5
Berge 20-25
O’Shea 15-17

Total so far between 98-113.5

Possibly to come

Al-Dakhil 7-8
Benson 7-10
Weghorst 4
McNally 2.5

20.5-24.5

120-138 not including Trafford or Amdouni possibilities.

So far spent £7-8m.

[Ric_C]

Getting to the point now that I'm not too bothered about DOS going. If the players that stunk the place out last season don't want to rectify it this season, then they can go. Same with Amdouni

[claretskeith]

Kompany 11-12
Muric 10-15
BPF 0.5
Vigouroux 0.5
Twine 3.5-4
Odobert 30
Zaroury 7.5
Berge 20-25
O’Shea 15-17

Total so far between 98-113.5

Possibly to come

Al-Dakhil 7-8
Benson 7-10
Weghorst 4
McNally 2.5

20.5-24.5

120-138 not including Trafford or Amdouni possibilities.

So far spent £7-8m.

I'd love to know approx what this debt actually is because it feels like it's nearer to half a billion.

[fatboy47]

£100 million should repay some of the club debt it didn’t have pre the new owners and keep them in huge incomes, houses and range rovers for a few years yet. Maybe they might stick around for a bit longer.

I've not seen Garlick standing at a bus stop these last 4 years..

[Mattster]

I’ve seen on twitter that we are refusing to pay £4m for Johnston, whereas Sheff Utd are willing to.

Good. There's better out that for that price.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Kebbal can’t be close

He’s starting tonight

[LongsideClaret]

That’s a real shame. Worrall replacing him? Or someone else?

I’m not as worried as I would have been had Clarke been playing though.

Absolutely outrageous if he goes for less than Greaves who was £15m + £3.5m.

Won’t be any other centre halves coming in unless Esteve goes, which won’t be happening unless someone tables mega money completely out of the blue.

Don’t think Worrall will be in the squad tomorrow so I expect Humphrys, McNally or Egan Riley will start alongside Esteve. Think we will see Worrall from Wednesday.

[GrahamBranchsPerm]

Anass is more widely reported as £4m or something I thought?

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[randomclaret2]

Won’t be any other centre halves coming in unless Esteve goes, which won’t be happening unless someone tables mega money completely out of the blue.

Don’t think Worrall will be in the squad tomorrow so I expect Humphrys, McNally or Egan Riley will start alongside Esteve. Think we will see Worrall from Wednesday.

Are Beyer, Ekdal and Delcroix anywhere near fitness ?

[RVclaret]

Anass is more widely reported as £4m or something I thought?

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€9m

[Spijed]

Won’t be any other centre halves coming in unless Esteve goes, which won’t be happening unless someone tables mega money completely out of the blue.

Don’t think Worrall will be in the squad tomorrow so I expect Humphrys, McNally or Egan Riley will start alongside Esteve. Think we will see Worrall from Wednesday.

Are any other players "likely" to leave aside from Amdouni that are deemed essential to the first team?

[Vegas Claret]

Absolutely outrageous if he goes for less than Greaves who was £15m + £3.5m.

this bit here, complete agreement with this. Batshit crazy

[jrgbfc]

Are Beyer, Ekdal and Delcroix anywhere near fitness ?

LongsideClaret will know more than me but it sounds like Beyer and Delcroix are nowhere near. Not even sure Delcroix has returned from his summer break yet.

[randomclaret2]

this bit here, complete agreement with this. Batshit crazy

I can only assume, as someone else on here suggested, that he has a release clause

[gawthorpe_view]

Madness if we sell Dara for £15m with some Liverpool reserve going for £22m
Also with Ipswich coming straight back down it's not a sensible move for him

£15 million might be a relegation release clause in his contract.

[morninbob]

£15 million might be a relegation release clause in his contract.

Then why have teams been bidding less?

[randomclaret2]

LongsideClaret will know more than me but it sounds like Beyer and Delcroix are nowhere near. Not even sure Delcroix has returned from his summer break yet.

So for all this talk of us having 9 or 10 Centre Halves it looks like we've 3 available for tomorrow, one of whom only joined us this week...

[claretskeith]

Then why have teams been bidding less?

Either to test the water or they didn't want to go as high as £15 million. Clubs will have a ceiling.

[claretskeith]

So for all this talk of us having 9 or 10 Centre Halves it looks like we've 3 available for tomorrow, one of whom only joined us this week...

And don't get me started on wingers

[Vegas Claret]

I can only assume, as someone else on here suggested, that he has a release clause

That's what I thought but the fact it's now plus add ons suggests not. How we are selling him for less than Greaves is absolutely astounding unless we also have a sell on on top of it all. We've done some excellent business so far but this is anything but.

[ecc]

And don't get me started on wingers

What about wingers, claretskeith?

[ksrclaret]

It has been an extraordinary week in terms of players leaving with what sounds like O'Shea, McNally, Al-Dakhil, Benson, and Weghorst almost certain to leave and then Trafford and Amdouni sounding like they might go as well.

I never thought I'd be typing this, but we need to bring some players in.

[Boss Hogg]

Absolute codswallap.

We are in debt tick
We weren’t tick
The Directors live in big houses tick
They ( at least some ) drive range rovers tick
Some of the player sales will repay debt tick
It is lucrative for them so are likely to stick around tick

Very difficult to see what is ‘absolute codswallop’

[Hipper]

Not many clubs rip out the spine of the team and go on to have a successful season.

Our team has a spine?

[morninbob]

Either to test the water or they didn't want to go as high as £15 million. Clubs will have a ceiling.

There wouldn't be any add one.

[colne-claret]

Then why have teams been bidding less?

To try get him cheaper?

[GetIntoEm]

I think we’ve got the most talented defence and defensive depth in the division.

Have we got the best central midfield without Berge? How much depth do we have there?

Have we got the best wide men in the division? With Tresor absent/coming back from ill health, Agyei yet to kick a ball for us and coming back from a long term knee injury and Redmond out for the foreseeable future, how much depth do we have there?

Is Foster the best striker in the division? Is 35 yo Rodriguez and an as yet unproven Hountdonji sufficient depth?

I’d say the sales of the last 7 days have left some serious questions that didn’t exist last week.

Foster is the best striker in this league yes. Teams would be begging to have someone like jay rod sat on the bench.

I think amdouni and vitty will stay.

I'm not worried.

I think we will see 2 or 3 come In yet and we will be set.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Cork drafted in to be honest.

[morninbob]

To try get him cheaper?

Again, if it was a fixed fee, there wouldn't be any add ons.

[GetIntoEm]

We are in debt tick
We weren’t tick
The Directors live in big houses tick
They ( at least some ) drive range rovers tick
Some of the player sales will repay debt tick
It is lucrative for them so are likely to stick around tick

Very difficult to see what is ‘absolute codswallop’

5 out of 6 applied to the previous owners too

[Murger]

Why wouldn’t Worrall play tomorrow? Don’t see the point in playing a centre back (McNally), who’s gonna be leaving, or Humphreys who’s another left sided cb.

[KRBFC]

Foster is the best striker in this league yes. Teams would be begging to have someone like jay rod sat on the bench.

I think amdouni and vitty will stay.

I'm not worried.

I think we will see 2 or 3 come In yet and we will be set.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Cork drafted in to be honest.

I’ll have whatever you’re on

Sell Berge for £25 and replace him with 36 year old Jack Cork on a free?

I’m not sure how selling all your best players and replacing them with cheap cack works.

Also Foster the best striker in the league? Based on what? He was absolutely useless in his first 6 months upfront for the best side in the league by a mile.