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[Foshiznik]

Trafford has had it worse than any player or owner on here in the last 12 months

[bumba]

I can't believe you've posted that Tony, we've had 3 years of slagging him off on this very message board. Obviously by people too soft to do it in person. Don't claim otherwise

Pretty sure Wout never once read this message board, I get what she's saying fair play to her speaking up but don't tell lies about Wout loving the club and don't start asking for some love towards her dad who's raking in millions whilst up the cost for us on everything and putting the club in debt.
Some good signings and a win Saturday then maybe Sunday she could have spoken up and said something different about having faith but not right now.

[BleedingClaret]

If you are referring to her post, she says players and owners, and where she asks for kindness mentions neither, so yes it could be Foster, or anyone else who's received the abuse

Playing the victim

[JohnMcGreal]

I must have missed all these times Weghorst played for Burnley, not to mention all the abuse he supposedly endured while doing it.

[BleedingClaret]

Pretty sure Wout never once read this message board, I get what she's saying fair play to her speaking up but don't tell lies about Wout loving the club and don't start asking for some love towards her dad who's raking in millions whilst up the cost for us on everything and putting the club in debt.
Some good signings and a win Saturday then maybe Sunday she could have spoken up and said something different about having faith but not right now.

If they get a reaction and 1 idiot throws an empty plastic bottle within 10 yards of Pace
Then he’s the victim

[TPClaret]

Would everyone on here, be happy reading that level of abuse on social media about their father?

[FeedTheArf]

Would everyone on here, be happy reading that level of abuse on social media about their father?

No. But not everyone’s father has plunged the club they love into unsustainable debt for personal gain. Swings and roundabouts innit.

[Row x]

I must have missed all these times Weghorst played for Burnley, not to mention all the abuse he supposedly endured while doing it.

I think we all know where the abuse came from, and as I said earlier it wasn't from the fans who attend games

[Quickenthetempo]

Would everyone on here, be happy reading that level of abuse on social media about their father?

If my dad put this football club in so much debt, I would be the one giving him stick.

[billyhamilton82]

Very Devils advocate though

Why not just make the point about her Dad

Use a subject that will get the backs up of many and then relate it to her dad

Its quite simple really.

She's relating the dogs abuse Wout received to what her Dad has received this week.

Goodness knows what its been like on Twitter judging by whats been said on here.

[Conroy92]

If my dad put this football club in so much debt, I would be the one giving him stick.

[Raconteur]

She uses poor Wout to say someone else could do with a bit of love now too

How do we know she is referencing her father.

It could be another player. Maybe Foster after the abuse he has been receiving the last couple of days

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

She better be careful, if her value rises Alan will be the first one to put her up for sale

[Row x]

How do we know she is referencing her father.

It could be another player. Maybe Foster after the abuse he has been receiving the last couple of days

I already suggested that, seems to have been dismissed on here

[Row x]

If my dad put this football club in so much debt, I would be the one giving him stick.

What about when he won the league?

[GetIntoEm]

Never seen so much fuss over a young girl telling people to be kind. You're probably the people she's talking about

[BleedingClaret]

What about when he won the league?

if you pick an old lady up, that fell over, and then rob her purse maybe the value of the first action is somewhat diminished although at the time it seemed something to applaud

[Quickenthetempo]

What about when he won the league?

My dad won plenty of leagues in various local sports.

I was a bit young, but if he did it now I would buy him a beer.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The one thing that continually surprises me about the owners

Is just how unprofessional they. How is he letting his daughter post anything about the club is beyond me.

[Row x]

The one thing that continually surprises me about the owners

Is just how unprofessional they. How is he letting his daughter post anything about the club is beyond me.

Just a thought, perhaps he didn't know

My kids have posted loads of stuff over the years I don't know about, even when they were her age

[TheFamilyCat]

She better be careful, if her value rises Alan will be the first one to put her up for sale

Good job you put the emoji on to let us know it was a joke.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Just a thought, perhaps he didn't know

My kids have posted loads of stuff over the years I don't know about, even when they were her age

As an owner of a multimillion pound business he should be setting ground rules that certain things should not be posted.

Do you really think the kids of CEOs of similar size businesses are doing this? I can’t think of another example anywhere.

Like I said, this is isn’t the first circumstance I can think of three other examples this week of how unprofessionally he runs this business.

[randomclaret2]

2 Lectures from the ALK camp in a week...

[BleedingClaret]

Just a thought, perhaps he didn't know

My kids have posted loads of stuff over the years I don't know about, even when they were her age

and perhaps you didn't know about this message board before the 15 July 2024, when you joined

[Dark Cloud]

I can't believe you've posted that Tony, we've had 3 years of slagging him off on this very message board. Obviously by people too soft to do it in person. Don't claim otherwise

Saying things exactly as we see them on a message board and at times getting pretty up front and personal about players or club hierarchy is wholly different from vocalising it within their earshot on match days. We ALL have our say on here be it good or bad, positive or negative and we don't hold back, but it's a real rarity to find those things being aired at the games and I agree that for all the many negative posts on here regarding WW, I never once heard anything at the games and rightly so.
And as an aside, whatever you think of that tweet in the OP, you can't fault the sentiments expressed or fault the lady for trying.

[Ipreferaflan]

I think her sentiment is largely correct. The way people throw accusations around now on social media (and subsequently on here) and start pile ons hidden behind anonymous names is quite frightening. There are very few people who know the actual truth regarding players leaving and the reasons being them. This echo chamber of negativity that's created is not healthy for the players, fans or the club. I still look at our squad and potential signings tomorrow with a degree of optimism that we can still comfortably get promoted. As far as I can see, most players who have left did not want to be here - how do we know know it's not Parker who's said he wants them out? My point is, Pace had taken a lot of abuse over the last week across multiple platforms and I feel she has every right to request that people think more carefully. Football is a ruthless business and unless we've got a rich local fan lined up to take over and personally fund the club, the reality is that we can only survive by selling players after relegation from the PL. The club has clearly mismanaged the timings of these transfers, but it's nowhere near as bad people are making out.

[Ipreferaflan]

Trafford has had it worse than any player or owner on here in the last 12 months

What's your point?

[ceborame]

It's a bit much asking the fans to be kind after reading that critique of the first team squad by one of their employees

[roperclaret]

I wasn’t aware that Wout had been abused. The reception he received when he came on at Luton was the exact opposite.

But I think she is very badly advised to post that.

I don’t think she’s aiming it at proper supporters Tony, more at the horrible comments some post on Instagram and Twitter (and a couple of dozen people on here).

[whiffa]

I think it's unfair to single one man out on his own, when there's an entire board and team making these decisions. I'm sure the reason we haven't been given any information as fans is because they can't. I think we need to be patient and see where we're at on Saturday and hopefully have a bit of an explanation as to why things have gone the way they have this transfer window. There's certainly no need be abusive or unsupportive of anyone at the club, we should be getting behind them. As confusing and frustrating as it is, none of us as fans have all the information.

[Big Vinny K]

I’m really not sure what she expected to gain for a post like this. Surely she must realise that it could lead to more derision and abuse. This post together with one she made on Tella both show an alarming level of naivety.
Of course she does not deserve to be piled on and neither does her dad but if you are going to use social media platforms like this it rarely ends well.

I get that she is protective of her dad but if she really feels the need to use social media to do this why would you post such nonsense about Wout. I know there are some varied views on Wout and his time at the club but I cannot think of one Burnley fan who would say that he “loved the club”. How on earth can you come up with a statement like that about a player who for the vast majority of his time at Burnley has put all his efforts into getting away from the club ?

That does not mean she deserves abuse online but she certainly opened herself up for it and gave ammunition to many people who right now with what is happening at the club do not need much of an excuse.

[Commy]

Response

https://x.com/FplTurf/status/1829199118797025482

[whiffa]

I’m really not sure what she expected to gain for a post like this. Surely she must realise that it could lead to more derision and abuse. This post together with one she made on Tella both show an alarming level of naivety.
Of course she does not deserve to be piled on and neither does her dad but if you are going to use social media platforms like this it rarely ends well.

I get that she is protective of her dad but if she really feels the need to use social media to do this why would you post such nonsense about Wout. I know there are some varied views on Wout and his time at the club but I cannot think of one Burnley fan who would say that he “loved the club”. How on earth can you come up with a statement like that about a player who for the vast majority of his time at Burnley has put all his efforts into getting away from the club ?

That does not mean she deserves abuse online but she certainly opened herself up for it and gave ammunition to many people who right now with what is happening at the club do not need much of an excuse.

Maybe it's just simply a girl asking people to be kind to her dad, there doesn't have to be something wrong with that.

[Burnley1989]

Any decent person can surely understand where she us coming from.

[GetIntoEm]

Response

https://x.com/FplTurf/status/1829199118797025482

Well that's embarrassing

[Burnley1989]

Response

https://x.com/FplTurf/status/1829199118797025482

Someone speaking on behalf of the fan base as usual

[fidelcastro]

Response

https://x.com/FplTurf/status/1829199118797025482

It's still not a fire sale, no matter how many times someone spouts it.

[Dark Cloud]

Well that's embarrassing

Completely over the top reaction and rather missed the point she was making I feel. Not agreeing with her is fine, but as I say, an embarrassing over reaction.

[KlyBfc]

Poor old Wout and Poor old Alan. Both sucking the finances out of our club for their own benefit and at little to no cost to themselves. If the club were as keen to communciate with the fan base regularly and appropriately there might not be as much opinion forming and maybe we could have a little more empathy / sympathy (which ever is most appropriate) with them.

[Big Vinny K]

Maybe it's just simply a girl asking people to be kind to her dad, there doesn't have to be something wrong with that.

Of course it’s understandable about her dad…..less so her comments about Weghorst which make no sense at all and not surprisingly will serve to antagonise fans who as I said are right now looking for any excuse.

[Stonehouse]

I think it's unfair to single one man out on his own, when there's an entire board and team making these decisions. I'm sure the reason we haven't been given any information as fans is because they can't. I think we need to be patient and see where we're at on Saturday and hopefully have a bit of an explanation as to why things have gone the way they have this transfer window. There's certainly no need be abusive or unsupportive of anyone at the club, we should be getting behind them. As confusing and frustrating as it is, none of us as fans have all the information.

I think if you’ve watched Mission to Burnley 2 you would know that there’s only one guy pulling the strings and that’s Alan Pace .

[gandhisflipflop]

Completely over the top reaction and rather missed the point she was making I feel. Not agreeing with her is fine, but as I say, an embarrassing over reaction.

It kind of validates her point.

[daveisaclaret]

It's a little patronising to refer to a social media and marketing executive at Burnley FC as a "girl"

[Spike]

Wout openly didn’t want to play for Burnley when we went down

Let’s get real we partly went down because he wasn’t good enough

Anyone else told their bosses they don’t want to work there and expect to be respected?

We’ve had 15 months of total misery. Record low points record debts
Give your head a wobble this simply isn’t good enough

[Stonehouse]

I think her sentiment is largely correct. The way people throw accusations around now on social media (and subsequently on here) and start pile ons hidden behind anonymous names is quite frightening. There are very few people who know the actual truth regarding players leaving and the reasons being them. This echo chamber of negativity that's created is not healthy for the players, fans or the club. I still look at our squad and potential signings tomorrow with a degree of optimism that we can still comfortably get promoted. As far as I can see, most players who have left did not want to be here - how do we know know it's not Parker who's said he wants them out? My point is, Pace had taken a lot of abuse over the last week across multiple platforms and I feel she has every right to request that people think more carefully. Football is a ruthless business and unless we've got a rich local fan lined up to take over and personally fund the club, the reality is that we can only survive by selling players after relegation from the PL. The club has clearly mismanaged the timings of these transfers, but it's nowhere near as bad people are making out.

Imagine one of the Glaziers daughters putting a comment out like that to the Man U fans I think the reactions would be off the Richter Scale compared to little old Burnley

[ClaretJimmy]

Not sure if it's just an online thing, since its all kicked off since the last game I went to (Sunderland). But it feels very toxic amongst the fans at the minute. Hope it's not like this in the ground on Saturday.

[Darnhill Claret]

How easily offended some people are. Interpret that as you wish.

[Elizabeth]

It's a little patronising to refer to a social media and marketing executive at Burnley FC as a "girl"

I do wonder though if she would get a similar social media and marketing executive roll at any other club than her dad's club.

[AlargeClaret]

She’s absolutely barking mad , about as welcome as turd in a christening font . WW for all his faults was treated very fairly by most BFC fans considering the way he flounced out the club and clearly wanted away . No hate whatsoever to him , just indifference to a rather expensive footnote in our history .

[mybloodisclaret]

It's a bit much asking the fans to be kind after reading that critique of the first team squad by one of their employees

Who has since lost his job and there is not a shread of evidence information that the board asked for the dossier to be compiled?? Strange point.