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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by bfcjg » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:27 pm

They defender like a mother hen would against a fox. If Cullen had of started we would have unpicked the lock. UTC

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:30 pm

MDWat wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:04 pm
I thought Koleosho was good, especially first half where I thought he was easily our biggest threat.

Surprised to read so many are disappointed with him.
Same, never stopped probing and caused all sorts of problems. Faded a bit but that can happen.
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:34 pm

Wish we would have sold Benson. Complete waste of space
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by louieollie » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:35 pm

Foshiznik wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 2:59 pm
Who’s caused us to be in that situation?
Well it certainly wasn't the squad that was put out today , nor the manager and his team ................but that's in the main where the negativity is being directed.

Today's game should be seen as the "proper" start of Scott's tenure and our 100% backing should be with him, rather than constant cheap digs from the usual suspects...........it's just so predictable and rather tedious.
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:42 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:20 pm
I think they had just 1 in the starting 11 compared to our 4?
Off my b*stard supporting mate - "Baker, Beck and Duru all debuts" - ok two of them came off the bench which is slightly different but they are still a new team as well, not quite the same level of turnover as us mind.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by jedi_master » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:45 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:34 pm
Wish we would have sold Benson. Complete waste of space
Did not do great when he came on but there’s no doubt a re-integrated Benson will win us points off the bench this season. I was delighted to see him come on because it shows no bridges have been burnt with SP, he’s back in the fold.
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by The Shire Claret » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:46 pm

After Sunderland and the Hysteria of the transfer situation I said I would be happy with a point and a performance from a team that are basically playing their first game together as a team.

We should have won and battered them in the grand scheme of things

I think we would have won 11 v 11

They shut up shop and tome wasted

Played us at the right time

This 2 weeks will be just what SP needs and very exited for what this team can do

UTC
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Bosscat » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:51 pm

No grumbles here for that ... new players bedding in well. Brownhill putting his arm around players and calming them down ... we were the better team all round ... the signs are there ... Onwards and upwards
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:51 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:46 pm
After Sunderland and the Hysteria of the transfer situation I said I would be happy with a point and a performance from a team that are basically playing their first game together as a team.

We should have won and battered them in the grand scheme of things

I think we would have won 11 v 11

They shut up shop and tome wasted

Played us at the right time

This 2 weeks will be just what SP needs and very exited for what this team can do

UTC
Battered them I can't remember pears making a save it was home advantage with them a man down a large part of the second half. It's excusable because it's a effectively a new team but it was anything but impressive.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by louieollie » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:55 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:42 pm
Off my b*stard supporting mate - "Baker, Beck and Duru all debuts" - ok two of them came off the bench which is slightly different but they are still a new team as well, not quite the same level of turnover as us mind.
So what is the point you are making ? I'm confused fella 😵💫

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by bumba » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:57 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:42 pm
Off my b*stard supporting mate - "Baker, Beck and Duru all debuts" - ok two of them came off the bench which is slightly different but they are still a new team as well, not quite the same level of turnover as us mind.
Duru played against Blackpool so he's talking sh1te

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:58 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:42 pm
Off my b*stard supporting mate - "Baker, Beck and Duru all debuts" - ok two of them came off the bench which is slightly different but they are still a new team as well, not quite the same level of turnover as us mind.
That's a good point the way people are going on it's only us who had new players. The way it's sounding as if they had a settled established side for donkeys.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Goalposts » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:59 pm

We will get better. - not sure rovers will. With players yet to come back and potentially a January striker signing- We are definitely in a good position. Based on last years performance the unsettled early transfer window and how we came out of it at the end. I’m pleased .. you can see players will get better as they get used to each other. Best £5m we never got keeping Browny… Excelent 500k on Laurent. Keeping koelsho will tell in the season .. Anthony looks really good .. the team was balanced and had high energy all game - blackburn where shot bot for a worldly goal..

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Claretitus » Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:14 pm

We just needed a bit more end product from Koleosho. Beats his man easily, cuts onto his other foot, then, not a lot. Positive it will come in time though. Lots of positives today, and we will be a lot better in a few weeks time. In an ideal world, an East Lancs derby is not the game to try to judge where we are as a team, as the occasion becomes too much,and overrides the football. I really do think we’ve now got the basis right, and the balance better. We will be top 6, I’m confident.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Row x » Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:22 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 2:32 pm
Not best pleased with that. We look couldn’t score if we played another 90mins
Typical response from a negative fan, without looking I bet you've given Trafford the lowest score of anyone.
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:35 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:20 pm
I think they had just 1 in the starting 11 compared to our 4?
louieollie wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:55 pm
So what is the point you are making ? I'm confused fella 😵💫
Does every little detail have to be explicitly stated on here?

The point is yes, we have a new team that have been thrusted in there and that of course explains some of our rustiness... But Blackburn also has a pretty new side with lots of new players this year albeit not quite as much as our (self inflicted) levels of turnover.
bumba wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:57 pm
Duru played against Blackpool so he's talking sh1te
Fair enough, that's one in the Cup, similar to Worrell/Hannibal for us.

Some good signs but we desperately need Flemming to really fire for us.

Losing Guddy is a big loss for that area of the field imo.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Shaggy » Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:38 pm

Row x wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:22 pm
Typical response from a negative fan, without looking I bet you've given Trafford the lowest score of anyone.
I’m not wrong though.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Row x » Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:49 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:38 pm
I’m not wrong though.
You are, based on what I saw, and the vast majority disagreeing with you having now looked at the scores. I bet you were praying that early mistake had led to a goal
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by sjb » Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:57 pm

Row x wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:49 pm
You are, based on what I saw, and the vast majority disagreeing with you having now looked at the scores. I bet you were praying that early mistake had led to a goal
Spot on. Doubt he's even a Burnley fan. Seems to live to crucify Trafford constantly.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by NottsClaret » Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:59 pm

Fair result, Steve is our best player now.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:04 pm

Great match. Loved it!

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Shaggy » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:11 pm

Row x wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 4:49 pm
You are, based on what I saw, and the vast majority disagreeing with you having now looked at the scores. I bet you were praying that early mistake had led to a goal
Laughable. Do you even know what you are disagreeing with?

How often did we threaten the rovers goal?

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by warksclaret » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:15 pm

Pretty certain this Division is now stronger than two seasons ago. Its that final third Scotty needs to work on, but I think we are set up nicely now for Fleming to play a key role. Of course Parker is still getting to know the team-certainly a bit wiser about Benson and Egan Riley

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:17 pm

bumba wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:57 pm
Duru played against Blackpool so he's talking sh1te
Must admit, when he came on I couldn't help but sing Metal Guru. Missed a trick there, the bastards.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by beddie » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:20 pm

Not enough positives in the middle for me. I think the new lad from Millwall will be the answer, also agree not enough upfront. The lad Sarmiento looks good, nice feet and quick, hope he gets in the starting eleven. On the whole disappointed having had so much possession but we didn’t create enough second half.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by DCWat » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:21 pm

Biggest disappointment today, for me, was the number of second balls / loose balls that went their way. I don’t think that was good fortune, but some well drilled players.

Hopefully, with more time together, we’ll improve in this area.

Especially in the first half, I thought that there were some really positive signs, although I did think that Worrall struggled against the big unit up top - lost a lot in the air.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:22 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:17 pm
Must admit, when he came on I couldn't help but sing Metal Guru. Missed a trick there, the bastards.
Would have gone straight over their heads, bunch of dinosaurs...

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Row x » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:23 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:11 pm
Laughable. Do you even know what you are disagreeing with?

How often did we threaten the rovers goal?
Hit the post
Header an inch past the post

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Ric_C » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:25 pm

Looking on youtube and social media, there is a lot of crying about their disallowed goal.

Looked a definite block on Esteve to me.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:27 pm

Rovers came for a point with a vague possibility of nicking a win .
They defended Dyche style, bodies flying in the way of shots and then, of course, being reduced to feigning injury and stopping a man by whatever means. A great looking but lucky shot brought them back into the game when they were looking like being overwhelmed.
Rovers had a great chance of beating us today but we, fresh faces all over the place, made sure it was never going to happen .
Leeds away next up and then a run of five extremely winnable games.
It's looking good.
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Shaggy » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:27 pm

Row x wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:23 pm
Hit the post
Header an inch past the post
And against 10 men you think that’s acceptable? That was it everything else was huff and puff and too slow.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Cubanforever » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:28 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:25 pm
Looking on youtube and social media, there is a lot of crying about their disallowed goal.

Looked a definite block on Esteve to me.
Yeah it was a block without doubt....if we had VAR (shudder) we'd of had a good chance of a pen too

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:31 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:27 pm
And against 10 men you think that’s acceptable? That was it everything else was huff and puff and too slow.
Yup, that was an acceptable performance. It very rarely matters whether a team goes down to ten, a defensive team like Rovers today wil just tighten up even more and hang on for dear life - as they did.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by dvalley69 » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:32 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:25 pm
Looking on youtube and social media, there is a lot of crying about their disallowed goal.

Looked a definite block on Esteve to me.
The irony being it was flagged for offside when he looked well on! I agree it looked a foul in any case.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Row x » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:35 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:27 pm
And against 10 men you think that’s acceptable? That was it everything else was huff and puff and too slow.
Those were against 11
Always difficult against 10 men sitting back

I'd rather be us going forward than rovers, however much that would disappoint you

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:39 pm

Row x wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:35 pm
Those were against 11
Always difficult against 10 men sitting back

I'd rather be us going forward than rovers, however much that would disappoint you
That's a pretty low bar but as it stands you are right. There's no denying we are getting weaker & they are getting stronger. Not so long ago it was unfathomable them coming to turf Moor & picking a point up such was our supreme strength over them that bridge has just got smaller.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Shaggy » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:39 pm

Row x wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:35 pm
Those were against 11
Always difficult against 10 men sitting back

I'd rather be us going forward than rovers, however much that would disappoint you
How many saves did Pears make??

Of course we are in a better position than them. Why would that disappoint me? You aren’t putting 2 and 2 together and getting it wrong again are you by making wild assumptions?

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Row x » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:48 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:39 pm
How many saves did Pears make??

Of course we are in a better position than them. Why would that disappoint me? You aren’t putting 2 and 2 together and getting it wrong again are you by making wild assumptions?
Because you only seem to be happy if we don't win, or certain players mess up
Can’t be bothered any more, have a lovely evening, see you next time we fail to win

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:51 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:39 pm
That's a pretty low bar but as it stands you are right. There's no denying we are getting weaker & they are getting stronger. Not so long ago it was unfathomable them coming to turf Moor & picking a point up such was our supreme strength over them that bridge has just got smaller.
Eustace is a good manager, and he's had longer to work with his players and staff. We've just had the most turbulent 2 weeks since I started supporting the club 35 years year ago.

These thing aren't linear, we're not a club that's always going to be challenging Europe with Rovers battling relegation. There'll be peaks and troughs get used to it. That said, our squad is far superior to theirs, and despite us not creating much, every man and his dog could see we are far the better side. Rovers pretty much conceded that by the way they played from the off.

We still have quality players to come back in Cullen and Flemming, Foster scored a goal, and our debutants looked decent. Disappointed not to win or be creative in the final third, but the bridge you talk about still stretches over a pretty wide river.
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:01 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:51 pm
Eustace is a good manager, and he's had longer to work with his players and staff. We've just had the most turbulent 2 weeks since I started supporting the club 35 years year ago.

These thing aren't linear, we're not a club that's always going to be challenging Europe with Rovers battling relegation. There'll be peaks and troughs get used to it. That said, our squad is far superior to theirs, and despite us not creating much, every man and his dog could see we are far the better side. Rovers pretty much conceded that by the way they played from the off.

We still have quality players to come back in Cullen and Flemming, Foster scored a goal, and our debutants looked decent. Disappointed not to win or be creative in the final third, but the bridge you talk about still stretches over a pretty wide river.
A lot of people seem to be claiming all these new signings are going to be successful which may well be true or not we can't be sure. I disagree about the debutants they looked ok against an average rovers side for me leeds will tell more. I understand about peaks & troughs I think we have reached a point where bouncing up & down season after season is finished & now a prolonged period in the championship beckons due to the restricted cash flow. I agree about eustace the containment game plan was executed well by them breaking up play & being stubborn the worrying thing though far better side than rovers lay in wait but as you say we can only improve or at least should.
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:07 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:11 pm
Laughable. Do you even know what you are disagreeing with?

How often did we threaten the rovers goal?
Burnley Xg was 1.69 and Rovers 0.97. We also had 13 shots and 9 corners

https://footystats.org/england/burnley- ... ts#7478780

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Shaggy » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:17 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:07 pm
Burnley Xg was 1.69 and Rovers 0.97. We also had 13 shots and 9 corners

https://footystats.org/england/burnley- ... ts#7478780
How many saves did Pears have to make?

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:18 pm

When worrall is match fit, Roberts worrall esteve is as solid as they come. I’m not convinced with Pires and would feel safer with Humphreys.

Laurent was excellent in duels, winning the ball and breaking it up but he doesn’t have the same quality Cullen has on the ball.

Hannibal has the energy and pressed well but I think Flemmings power in that 10 role would be crucial.

Anthony excellent, we don’t get the ball to him enough.

Koleosho did well and his pace will cause teams trouble with direct running from the right.

Foster took the header well, but there is just something about his game at the moment that is off, I think that’s 3 yellow cards for him already for silly things.

A behind closed door game would be ideal in this international break

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Pearcey » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:23 pm

Had to tape it and watch it later as I’m on nights but I thought there were a lot of positives today. Rovers got us at a good time because I think we’ll only get better. UTC. Was surprised Humphreys didn’t come on for Esteve though.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:27 pm

Missed Cullen today, I think if he was in there we win that game quite easily. Hannibal didn’t get involved as much as we or he maybe would have liked . We didn’t have enough attempts at goal today and the final ball was lacking but having said that, a lot of this team is unfamiliar with each other so we should only get better. Anthony had a decent game and a lovely cross for the goal. Shame they scored a worldie but hey Ho

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Stonehouse » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:28 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:45 pm
Did not do great when he came on but there’s no doubt a re-integrated Benson will win us points off the bench this season. I was delighted to see him come on because it shows no bridges have been burnt with SP, he’s back in the fold.
Unfortunately other teams now know to push Benson onto his right foot which basically he uses only for standing on,he’ll never be forgotten at Burnley but I’m afraid he looks like a one season wonder.
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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Stonehouse » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:35 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:27 pm
And against 10 men you think that’s acceptable? That was it everything else was huff and puff and too slow.
Anyone whose watched football over the years knows how hard it can be playing against 10 men especially when you’ve several new players who may be trying too hard to impress after last weeks **** show I reckon they’res a lot more positives than negatives.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:41 pm

Just got back from watching the game with the Benalmadena Clarets. Bloody hot here. Had a pint with Pat Carter, the old dj from the Hop, remember him?
First thoughts, happy with a point, they still haven't beaten us in God knows how many years. Glad there's an international break to give us time to bed in all the new players. We could do with more punch up front in their box, Foster looked a bit isolated too often. Thought Worrell looked a bit slow at the back but he kept talking to the players around him. If Koleosho had an end product he would be very special. Esteve already is very special. No complaints, need a bit of time to gel.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by Burnley Ace » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:43 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:17 pm
How many saves did Pears have to make?
He definitely had to make one, but missed it.

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Re: Clarets v Rovers

Post by claretskeith » Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:43 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:07 pm
Burnley Xg was 1.69 and Rovers 0.97. We also had 13 shots and 9 corners

https://footystats.org/england/burnley- ... ts#7478780
Not sure which is more accurate, but FotMob has us down as 0.84xG, with Rovers 0.28xg

15 shots to their 10. Both 3 on target.

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