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Flemming

Post by willsclarets » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:16 pm

What a signing this is. Had a really tough ask today, and took to it superbly. His movement is brilliant, he protects the ball and has an eye for a pass. As tough a debut you'll have, and he looked as though he'd played with us a while I thought.

Can't wait to see more of him!
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Re: Flemming

Post by Vino blanco » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:18 pm

If he and Foster could player together in the same forward line, that could be a bit special in the Championship.
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Re: Flemming

Post by Bowclaret » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:19 pm

Looks a great addition and for me, after that he keeps Foster out of the team.

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Re: Flemming

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:19 pm

Incredible to say that was his first game of the season, his first game for a new club, and was arguably out of position as well.

He just looks likely a really good, really rounded footballer.

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Re: Flemming

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:19 pm

The way he holds the ball up is sensational, similar to his compatriot Weghorst in a sense how he can cleverly play it as well as control and hold it.

First impressions I really like him.

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Re: Flemming

Post by KRBFC » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:20 pm

Technically really good, something we’ve missed upfront for a while. That ability to link the play with quality.

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Re: Flemming

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:21 pm

Can’t wait to see him play as a ten behind Foster
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Re: Flemming

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:21 pm

Very good today. Ran his socks off.

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Re: Flemming

Post by BobbyBoucher » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:21 pm

Couldn't agree more, that little layoff out of the sky in the second half was superb. Can't wait to see him and Foster together
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Re: Flemming

Post by RVclaret » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:22 pm

To say it was his first minutes of the season and only played in one game in pre-season I thought he was brilliant. Clever footballer but has the physicality and work rate to match. Really looking forward to seeing him and Foster.
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Re: Flemming

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:28 pm

Bowclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:19 pm
Looks a great addition and for me, after that he keeps Foster out of the team.
He doesn't, he will help Foster be a better striker and score more goal's, he's what Foster needs he will play up front with Fleming right behind him

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Re: Flemming

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:31 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:28 pm
He doesn't, he will help Foster be a better striker and score more goal's, he's what Foster needs he will play up front with Fleming right behind him
You would hope that happens but Burnley as far as I can remember have never played with a proper no.10 threading balls through apart from Hendrick but he was more a presser and collector of loose balls and the occasional excellent assist.

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Re: Flemming

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:36 pm

If he’d had more service second half he’d have been my MoM. Whilst we had poor touches all over the field he barely had one. Played with his head up and brought others into the action.
Love him.

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Re: Flemming

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:42 pm

Very strong lad

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Re: Flemming

Post by BabylonClaret » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:45 pm

V impressive debut. Held the ball, rarely gave it away, brought others into play, won free kicks. Only thing he didn't do was score

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Re: Flemming

Post by IPAclaret » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:56 pm

You can see he has real quality and class about him. If him and Foster hit it off with the pace and skill of our other forwards they'll take some stopping.

Really impressive debut.

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Re: Flemming

Post by Goliath » Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:59 pm

Strong as an oxe, great touch, good in the air and looks like he can score goals. Impressive

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Re: Flemming

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:02 pm

Had a decent game but poor in the air. Needs to get back down to his fighting weight

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Re: Flemming

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:10 pm

Excellent debut. Some great touches, showed excellent awareness and put a real shift in. Could be dynamite with someone decent in front of him with pace.

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Re: Flemming

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:20 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:31 pm
You would hope that happens but Burnley as far as I can remember have never played with a proper no.10 threading balls through apart from Hendrick but he was more a presser and collector of loose balls and the occasional excellent assist.
We've not had the players for a long time to play this way until now

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Re: Flemming

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:25 pm

A very good debut. Away the Leeds , playing higher up than usual, we have plenty of options to change things up now if Foster isn’t out for too long .

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Re: Flemming

Post by jrgbfc » Sat Sep 14, 2024 5:22 pm

Just seen his interview, didn't know he was Dutch! Just assumed he was English.

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Re: Flemming

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:24 am

LincsWoldsClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:02 pm
Had a decent game but poor in the air. Needs to get back down to his fighting weight
That's a bit harsh. Not sure if he expected to start the game but to find himself playing a lone role up front from the off with a lot of players he'd never played with before I thought his performance was at least commendable; and at the best a damned good one.

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Re: Flemming

Post by Devils_Advocate » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:35 am

Not read the thread but he was brilliant today and think he could really be the difference this year.

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Re: Flemming

Post by Clive 1960 » Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:13 am

Excellent debut and he reminds me of a Steve Claridge and will only get better. UTC

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Re: Flemming

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:19 am

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:24 am
That's a bit harsh. Not sure if he expected to start the game but to find himself playing a lone role up front from the off with a lot of players he'd never played with before I thought his performance was at least commendable; and at the best a damned good one.
I think we’re agreed he had a decent game, especially as you mention, he was totally out of position. I’ve seen him play quite often and he’s been a standout player in this division for a number of years. Once he’s fully fit he’ll be terrific for us.

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Re: Flemming

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:41 am

LincsWoldsClaret wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:02 pm
Had a decent game but poor in the air. Needs to get back down to his fighting weight
Everything he did in the first half was excellent, even in the air. Second half you could tell he’s not had a pre season.

In games where teams are gonna have two banks of 4, flemming in the 10 with foster will be key

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Re: Flemming

Post by MACCA » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:44 am

Bowclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:19 pm
Looks a great addition and for me, after that he keeps Foster out of the team.
I'd have thought, or probably Hooe he takes Laurent shirt and we go

2 of

Hanibal Cullen Brownhill

Koleosho Fleming Anthony
Foster

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Re: Flemming

Post by summitclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:14 am

MACCA wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:44 am
I'd have thought, or probably Hooe he takes Laurent shirt and we go

2 of
Q
Hanibal Cullen Brownhill

Koleosho Fleming Anthony
Foster
It'd be great but we would have 12 men. We have to choose between Hanny and Browny.

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Re: Flemming

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:23 am

Kind of reminds me of a better Vydra

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Re: Flemming

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:27 am

Think that's why MACCA put 2 of, which you then repeated, so only 11 starters.
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Re: Flemming

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:32 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 3:28 pm
He doesn't, he will help Foster be a better striker and score more goal's, he's what Foster needs he will play up front with Fleming right behind him
Agree, a proper 9 and 10, doing what all good striker partnerships do, I too can't wait to see them together, work it right they'll get a bag full in this league.

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Re: Flemming

Post by Jamesy » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:35 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:23 am
Kind of reminds me of a better Vydra
Not sure about this? Let’s judge him after a few more games.

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Re: Flemming

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:38 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2024 4:20 pm
We've not had the players for a long time to play this way until now
Think the last pair similar to this was ings and vokes

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Re: Flemming

Post by claretspice » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:40 am

A very promising debut in a slightly unnatural position (albeit one he might grow into). Technically good, calm in possession and looks like a player who makes good decisions.

I agree that he looks on paper a very natural foil for Foster playing in that withdrawn role there's also potential for a bit if rotation to allow Foster to drop into the inside left channel from where he carries the ball so well.

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Re: Flemming

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:44 am

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:38 am
Think the last pair similar to this was ings and vokes
Foster is nothing like Vokes, and I don’t think Flemming is particularly similar to Ings, but as a more mobile partnership I’d like to see them playing together

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Re: Flemming

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:48 am

Interesting that SP preferred to play Fleming rather than Hountonji - who is a more natural fit for that position. Perhaps he’s not impressed so far.

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Re: Flemming

Post by claretspice » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:02 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:38 am
Think the last pair similar to this was ings and vokes
Much more on common with Rodriguez and Wood actually I'd have said.

Regarding Hountondji vs Flemming- whilst they are both new to the club, Hountondji is adapting to a different country and higher standard of football, which takes time. Flemming isn't.

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Re: Flemming

Post by ecc » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:14 pm

Not seen Flemming play before. According to Transfermarkt (reliable for formations), he played a considerable number of games as CF last season but with another striker alongside him.

IMO he was the obvious choice yesterday.

Inevitably incredible command of the English language for a Dutchman but also sounds to be a very intelligent lad.

Suspect he will have a big season with us.

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Re: Flemming

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:21 pm

Thought he looked a real player. Strong, good touch, intelligent. Reminded me a bit of the performance from Gyokeres when we played Coventry on the turf last.

Flemming tired in the second half for sure but a lot of our players did and he can’t be up to his full fitness levels yet. We need to manage him carefully these next few weeks if Foster is missing as don’t want him picking up an injury. Think he will be a massive player for us this season.

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Re: Flemming

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:32 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:44 am
Foster is nothing like Vokes, and I don’t think Flemming is particularly similar to Ings, but as a more mobile partnership I’d like to see them playing together
I haven't said anything about any of them as individuals, I simply meant as a 9 and 10, just as vokes and ings were.

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Re: Flemming

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:35 pm

alwaysaclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:32 pm
I haven't said anything about any of them as individuals, I simply meant as a 9 and 10, just as vokes and ings were.
Fair enough, but of the various forward pairings that we have had since Vokes and Ings (and there have been quite a few), Foster and Flemming would probably be the least similar - only IMO of course

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Re: Flemming

Post by alwaysaclaret » Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:40 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:35 pm
Fair enough, but of the various forward pairings that we have had since Vokes and Ings (and there have been quite a few), Foster and Flemming would probably be the least similar - only IMO of course
Well I can't wait to find out, and the proof will be in the pudding. However I'm not splitting hairs, just glad that we actually have a proper 9 and 10 again imo, and I also think both can play either, so if they can work it right they'll get a bag full.
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Re: Flemming

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sun Sep 15, 2024 1:46 pm

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:23 am
Kind of reminds me of a better Vydra
I thought more like Arfield, but a bit better.

He was superb anyway. 8-)

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Re: Flemming

Post by claretspice » Sun Sep 15, 2024 8:29 pm

claretspice wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:02 pm
Much more on common with Rodriguez and Wood actually I'd have said.

Regarding Hountondji vs Flemming- whilst they are both new to the club, Hountondji is adapting to a different country and higher standard of football, which takes time. Flemming isn't.
A further point on Hountondji- I think it's more significant that Parker trusted him to come on and help us see the game out when he had the option of Rodriguez on the bench, than it is that the more experienced Flemming started ahead of him.

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Re: Flemming

Post by MACCA » Sun Sep 22, 2024 9:12 am

summitclaret wrote:
Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:14 am
It'd be great but we would have 12 men. We have to choose between Hanny and Browny.
I might be wrong but 6 plus 4 plus 1 used to be 11, and football teams get to start with 11... ;)

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