New striker in Jan?

[CoolClaret]

Ah and Amdouni hasn’t shown any quality, right.

Let’s see who has the better career out of the two of them then.

Shown he can perform to a good Pl standard when? Once? The good players are the ones who are more consistent.

Slag off the new Amdouni in the PL but give Foster a 2 year pass, with half of it in a lower division. Makes sense

Amdouni had little moments and a few nice touches in games but nothing of note at that level to show that he would get up to the intensity of the PL.

That also isn't 'slagging off' a player but I do wish you'd grow up and stop with the hysterics and binary thinking.

He had something like 5 goals 3 assists in his first 8-10 PL games and was rated as our best player during that period according to the average ratings given on here. Unfortunately he fell ill after this. But more than once.

Then came back and put in some top performances around Christmas, but it's clear to see that his illness was affecting him.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

I’d even get Barnes back for six months just to add a bit of bite in attack alongside Foster and get a random factor back and s housery.

Think we really need to have two up front either 4-4-2 or something else

[jlup1980]

The chocolate fireguard comment is just ridiculous

I'm sure neither Luton or Blackburn think that

Foster is very quickly becoming this seasons Trafford, bonkers.

He was completely anonymous for 80 minutes at Luton, then he came up with the assist of the season. He put a bit of a shift in against Rovers, but if you can't do that as a Burnley player you'd have serious questions to ask. He has moments, but they're so fleeting that people have to hark back to Villa away last December to defend him.

He's certainly not this seasons Trafford for me either, I called Lyle's limitations out a long time before this season. He's now made nearly 50 appearances for us and I can only count about half a dozen genuinely good games... and by that I mean games where he was actually involved for the majority of the game in a positive way. Most weeks he disappears for long periods and you can't do that if you're meant to be the focal point of the attack. Turning up once in every seven or eight games won't do.

His movement is generally poor, he drops too deep and gets in the way of the no.10, which then has a knock on effect of him not being in the box when crosses are put in from wide. He doesn't occupy centre halves in a physical way like Barnes, Wood or Vokes used to do (or like Fleming did at Leeds). He also doesn't have the goalscoring spark of Austin, Ings or Gray. If he plays every minute of every game this season he won't get double figures and that's not going to be enough.

[Row x]

I’d even get Barnes back for six months just to add a bit of bite in attack alongside Foster and get a random factor back and s housery.

Think we really need to have two up front either 4-4-2 or something else

1. You couldn't get him till Jan
2. I don't think he's played yet this season

[RVclaret]

If he plays every minute of every game this season he won't get double figures and that's not going to be enough.

He will definitely get double figures if he plays every minute of every game.

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

1. You couldn't get him till Jan
2. I don't think he's played yet this season

I know that , I’d get Barnes and another striker someone like Gyokeres before he became expensive.

Will be fresh if he hasn’t played.

Foster on his own with very little support will probably not work long term as he’s not a lone target man.

[jlup1980]

He will definitely get double figures if he plays every minute of every game.

He's scored 2 in 17 Championship appearances and 7 in 47 overall. I've seen nothing to suggest that he'd get double figures this season. He'll do well to score half a dozen going off his current ratios.

[Row x]

I know that , I’d get Barnes and another striker someone like Gyokeres before he became expensive.

Will be fresh if he hasn’t played.

Foster on his own with very little support will probably not work long term as he’s not a lone target man.

He's injured, had he not payed for Burnley you wouldn't even mention him with his current stats... His time has gone

I agree Foster on his own is not the answer, but we've got players who can play up with him, and in Jan we can get far better players than Barnes

[RVclaret]

He's scored 2 in 17 Championship appearances and 7 in 47 overall. I've seen nothing to suggest that he'd get double figures this season. He'll do well to score half a dozen going off his current ratios.

Most of them Championship appearances were off the bench so I don’t really look at it like that. The second figures include bench and Premier League, for which, aside from being a far higher level, he spent half of it unfit mentally and physically. So current ratios mean naff all really. Reminds me of those ‘baffled’ by Ipswich paying £15m for Liam Delap in the summer due to his ‘goal ratios’ in the Championship. At the time I argued there is more to a player than goal ratios and it’s worth understanding context (provided for LF here). Delap now looks an outstanding signing for them.

[jlup1980]

Most of them Championship appearances were off the bench so I don’t really look at it like that. The second figures include bench and Premier League, for which, aside from being a far higher level, he spent half of it unfit mentally and physically. So current ratios mean naff all really. Reminds me of those ‘baffled’ by Ipswich paying £15m for Liam Delap in the summer due to his ‘goal ratios’ in the Championship. At the time I argued there is more to a player than goal ratios and it’s worth understanding context (provided for LF here). Delap now looks an outstanding signing for them.

£15m for Delap just shows where the market is at currently. He's got the attributes to be a decent player, but was definitely a risk at that price. He's started very well so it'll be interesting to see if he pushes on.

I just don't rate Foster. I don't mind saying that. I'm not a boo-boy so I won't get on his back during a game, I want him to be a success and if he proves me wrong then I'm big enough to eat my own words. He had a run of a games 12 months ago where he looked like he had something. Other than that, in my opinion, he's been consistently poor and hasn't offered much.

[claretspice]

No need to panic yet. The debate on Foster had been done to death but I don't think there's any reason to panic yet and I remain of the view that Foster needs someone playing close to him who can do some of the work to provide the team with a platform and free him up to play facing the opposition goal. He's not really had that support at any time in his Burnley career. Flemming is obviously a player who fits that mould.

As for Hountondji, no-one can sensibly be writing him off quite yet- he's a kid who has moved to a new country and is stepping up several levels and has played less than half an hour of League football in his preferred position.

[Spike]

We are least 2 strikers away from being able to run away with the league