Our strongest line up

[BigGaz]

the team that started last night:

Trafford
Humph CJ Steve Pires
JB JC
Kole Hannah Anthony
Fozzy Bear

Was missing these players (might be missing someone else)

Roberts
Worrall
Delcroix
Beyer
Ekdal
Benson
Tresor
Redmond
Flemming
Ramsey

Simply put, what is our best side once all those are back?

I don't personally think it changes too dramatically.

I'd see Roberts in for Humphries, Beyer for CJ and Flemming for Hannah.

I'd love to imagine a revitalised Benny coming back in on the right and Kole going over to the left, with Tresor and Ramsey really starting to show their worth at some point but it unfortunately looks very difficult for that to happen.

Anyway, the point being that when we're at full strength, to my mind that's only 3 players of 10 that are missing.

How do you feel about it?

[CoolClaret]

--------Trafford
Roberts-Ekdal-Eteve Pires
---------Cullen
------Brownhill-Hannibal
-Koleosho-Flemming-Foster

/

--------Trafford
Roberts-Ekdal-Eteve Pires
-----Cullen-Brownhill
----Flemming-Ramsey
-----Koleosho-Foster

[Anonymous Claret]

If fit I think that Redmond should be in that starting 11 somewhere.

Trafford

Roberts
Beyer
Esteve
Pires

Cullen
Brownhill

Redmond
Flemming
Koleosho

Foster

[Darnhill Claret]

I hate the idea of a 'best 11'. It makes me think that every substitution weakens the team. Much prefer a best 16 or 17.

[Goliath]

Sign a good right back and a proper Berge replacement would make us close to unstoppable at this level. A number 10 and a striker would be next on this list but probably a bit unrealistic for Jan.
Apart from that the team pretty much picks itself imo. Basically what we had last night plus Roberts and Fleming.

[Spike]

I think we have enough for this division in centre mid.
We need one or two really good strikers

[Slurpy]

Trafford
Roberts Beyer Esteve Pires
Cullen Brownhill
Flemming
Ramsey Koleosho
Foster

Honourable mentions:
Redmond
Ekdal
Worrall
Humphreys

[Lambo]

The one thing it does show BigGaz is how strong our squad wil be if/when everyone is fit…we’re improving each game, yes we need to be more clinical in front of goal but we’re 2nd at moment without playing well….imagine how good we’ll be when we click and those missing are back UTC

[bumba]

Shows what a good job Parker is doing despite the upheaval and losing players after pre season that we are sat 2nd in the table with some quality players for this level missing.
Beyer, Ramsey, Redmond, Benson and Tresor probably walk on to 95% of championships starting 11s easily.

Should allow some good rotation and good choices from the bench in games once everyone is fit, don't.think they'll be a best 11 as such, we could change game by game to suit the game plan.

[Elizabeth]

the team that started last night:

Trafford
Humph CJ Steve Pires
JB JC
Kole Hannah Anthony
Fozzy Bear

Was missing these players (might be missing someone else)

Roberts
Worrall
Delcroix
Beyer
Ekdal
Benson
Tresor
Redmond
Flemming
Ramsey

Simply put, what is our best side once all those are back?

I don't personally think it changes too dramatically.

I'd see Roberts in for Humphries, Beyer for CJ and Flemming for Hannah.

I'd love to imagine a revitalised Benny coming back in on the right and Kole going over to the left, with Tresor and Ramsey really starting to show their worth at some point but it unfortunately looks very difficult for that to happen.

Anyway, the point being that when we're at full strength, to my mind that's only 3 players of 10 that are missing.

How do you feel about it?

From your list of missing players I am expecting Worrall , Fleming and Ramsay to be regular starters with Roberts , Tresor and Redmond to be regular match day squad players pushing for a starting place. . The other 4 players I'm not expecting to see much off due to their injury record.

Of the team that started I'm not expecting Humph, CJ, Hannah and Anthony to be regular starters once the others come back.

[Guller Bull]

Missed HN Massengo.
Should always be in and around the squad for me.

[what now !]

on paper our squad when all fit is by far the best in this league, i think when the players that are out now are back fully fit then unfortunately others will be injured. i trust in parker i have liked what i have seen so far and he said he would pick the team to play each match , i suspect he had one eye on saturday last night so i think we may see a slightly different line up come 1230 on saturday but no major changes, the 11 he picks will be his best 11 for that game, which is they win will be the correct decision.

[jlup1980]

A fully fit 11 would be far too strong for this league. We'd have so many options.

Trafford
Roberts Beyer Esteve Pires
Cullen Brownhill
Redmond Ramsey Koleosho
Fleming

Or three at the back with Beyer, Ekdal and Esteve?

[burnley007]

Traff
Roberts Beyer Steeeeve Pires
Hannibal Cullen
Koleosho Tresor Ramsey
Flemming

[NickBFC]

Really difficult with the options we have, but I think IF fully fit/performing then Beyer/Roberts/Tresor and Flemming come into the starting line up. More immediately Roberts comes in at RB, and Flemming, but as a 9 or 10?

[Stonehouse]

Missed HN Massengo.
Should always be in and around the squad for me.

He came on last night.

[Guller Bull]

He came on last night.

Ah yup - it was all the nicknames in that original post that confused me.

[dougcollins]

Some radio pundit said a team made from Burnley's missing players would have no problem making the play-offs.

[morninbob]

Almost impossible to fit everyone in...

Trafford
Beyer ekdal esteve pires
Cullen
Brownhill Ramsey
Koleosho Flemming tresor

[claret2018]

Not sure Redmond will be anywhere near the first time again. When was the last time he played 90 minutes of football?

He'll be moved on once he’s back to fitness.

[AlargeClaret]

Trafford
Roberts-Ekdal-Eteve Pires
Cullen Brownhill-Hannibal
-Koleosho-Anthony
Fozzy

[claretspice]

Ignoring our known long term injury lay offs, if everyone else was fully fit for Preston at home:

-----‐--------------Trafford
Roberts Worrall Esteve Pires
-------------Cullen Brownhill
Koleosho Flemming Tresor
----------------------Foster

If a touch more defensive solidity is required, replace one of Flemming, Tresor or Foster with Hannibal or Anthony depending on whether it is the wide area or midfield area we're most concerned about.

Once fit, Ekdal (for Worrall) and Ramsey (for any of the front 5) become real contenders to improve that team and if Redmond can get anywhere near his best he too gives us real competition.

Surprised how few pick Tresor. If fit and focused his track record suggests he'd be outstanding at this level.

[taio]

Trafford
Roberts Beyer Esteve Pires
Cullen Brownhill
Koleosho Flemming Sarmiento
Foster

[AGENT_CLARET]

---------------Trafford

Roberts----Beyer----Esteve----Pires

----------Cullen----Brownhill

Koleosho---------------------Tresor

--------------Ramsey
--------------------Flemming

[Colburn_Claret]

Trafford

Roberts Beyer Esteve Pires

Laurent Hannibal

Sarmiento Brownhill Flemming Tresor


The more I look the harder it is to see a target man in our squad, we need the new Sam Vokes in January.
We've seen very little of Houtonji, but I take it that Parker hasn't seen much in him if he can't get into this toothless team.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Based on his performances for BFC it’s hard to see how Tresor could justify a place in any best line-up.

[willsclarets]

Trafford
Roberts. Beyer. Esteve. Pires

Cullen. Hannibal

Koleosho. Flemming. Tresor

Foster

[AGENT_CLARET]

Based on his performances for BFC it’s hard to see how Tresor could justify a place in any best line-up.

His performances in the Premier league on the wrong wing and out of Postion, that Tresor.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Based on his performances for BFC it’s hard to see how Tresor could justify a place in any best line-up.

It's wouldn't let me edit, so I'll post again

His performances in the Premier league on the wrong wing and out of Postion because he plays CAM or LW but was played RW by Kompany that Tresor you're correct.

The Tresor that played in Belgium mostly in position in CAM or on the LW that Tresor rips the championship apart

[JarrowClaret]

It's wouldn't let me edit, so I'll post again

His performances in the Premier league on the wrong wing and out of Postion because he plays CAM or LW but was played RW by Kompany that Tresor you're correct.

The Tresor that played in Belgium mostly in position in CAM or on the LW that Tresor rips the championship apart

If the real Mike Tresor turns up he will be an absolute game changer for us, it’s a big if but he can’t be judged totally off what he produced last season. there are many factors as to why he didn’t perform some are mentioned above, I found that he played quite well against Liverpool I think and then was on the bench again for the next few games was not allowed to be consistent totally mismanaged!

[Goobs]

Trafford
Roberts Beyer Esteve Pires
Laurent
Koleosho Ramsey Tresor Sarmiento
Flemming

[dougcollins]

Interesting how many think Tresor is in our strongest line up.

How do they know?

The more games he misses, the better he gets.

[Goliath]

Interesting how many think Tresor is in our strongest line up.

How do they know?

The more games he misses, the better he gets.

Be realistic. It's a no brainer between him or Jadon Anthony

[Stayingup]

Be realistic. It's a no brainer between him or Jadon Anthony

You might be right but surely there is no basis for saying that on what he has shown here at Burnley so far.

[Goliath]

..........Trafford

....Beyer..Ekdal...Esteve

Koleosho...Cullen..Brownhill..Pires

..........Tresor......Fleming

..................Foster

[Goliath]

You might be right but surely there is no basis for saying that on what he has shown here at Burnley so far.

Football exists outside of Burnley. They've started a handful of games between them so we have to form opinions from elsewhere

[claretspice]

You might be right but surely there is no basis for saying that on what he has shown here at Burnley so far.

I think Parker has as good as acknowledged that in terms of sheer quality, he'd be stand out amongst this group of players, which is probably why many think he plays if fit and focused.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

I think Parker has as good as acknowledged that in terms of sheer quality, he'd be stand out amongst this group of players, which is probably why many think he plays if fit and focused.

But none of us have seen him have a good game in a Burnley shirt.

He could be excellent for us but there’s no supporting evidence on which to judge why he should be in our best 11 - yet - unfortunately

[Goliath]

But none of us have seen him have a good game in a Burnley shirt.

He could be excellent for us but there’s no supporting evidence on which to judge why he should be in our best 11 - yet - unfortunately

I thought he was excellent first half at home v Liverpool. Coi cidentally one of the few times he started from the left.

I'm not sure if he ever started there again. Talk about giving someone a chance to settle, he played about 9 games mostly off the bench and off the right in the best league in the world. He was set up to fail from the start and deserves a proper chance if we can get him motivated.

[Goobs]

But none of us have seen him have a good game in a Burnley shirt.

He could be excellent for us but there’s no supporting evidence on which to judge why he should be in our best 11 - yet - unfortunately

I think it was Everton away in the cup where he was unplayable in parts and looked class. Saw very little of him other than that.

Wingers / flair players need a run of games and by their very nature can often look as bad as they do good depending on what day you see them.

Look at the Robbie Blake we saw for the first couple of months here against the player we had seen play against us or equally the Robbie we saw for long periods in a Claret shirt.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

I think it was Everton away in the cup where he was unplayable in parts and looked class. Saw very little of him other than that.

Wingers / flair players need a run of games and by their very nature can often look as bad as they do good depending on what day you see them.

Look at the Robbie Blake we saw for the first couple of months here against the player we had seen play against us or equally the Robbie we saw for long periods in a Claret shirt.

And on the basis of that one game he should be in our best 11?

As for unplayable - did he score, assist?

[Goobs]

And on the basis of that one game he should be in our best 11?

As for unplayable - did he score, assist?

No, and you are missing my point.

The point is that what he has done elsewhere indicates that there is a very good player there and we have seen brief glimpses of that.

I think he has talent and would be our best option as a 2nd CM alongside Ramsey (who also has, for me, shown very little in our shirt prior to his injury).

In the formation I have picked I believe that would be our strongest line-up.

The fact that some of those names have as yet not been our best players does not mean that they won't be as per my analogy to Robbie Blake in my previous post. Also after a short while of him being with us I thought Glenn Little was a useless, clumsy oath who should be nowhere near our first 11, sometimes players need time, a settled environment and a run in the side to really show their best.

[LincsWoldsClaret]

No, and you are missing my point.

The point is that what he has done elsewhere indicates that there is a very good player there and we have seen brief glimpses of that.

I think he has talent and would be our best option as a 2nd CM alongside Ramsey (who also has, for me, shown very little in our shirt prior to his injury).

In the formation I have picked I believe that would be our strongest line-up.

The fact that some of those names have as yet not been our best players does not mean that they won't be as per my analogy to Robbie Blake in my previous post. Also after a short while of him being with us I thought Glenn Little was a useless, clumsy oath who should be nowhere near our first 11, sometimes players need time, a settled environment and a run in the side to really show their best.

Fair enough and I understand your point. We’re just coming at the best 11 from different angles - you’re prioritising potential and I’m prioritising BFC performances.