Bayern Munich

[Poulton-le-Claret]

At home to Leverkusen and not long kicked off. Tella starts on the bench

[Middle-agedClaret]

I don’t really care what happens at Bayern.
UTC.

[Commy]

Losing 1-0

[Commy]

1-1 now.

[jrgbfc]

Hammered by Barca tonight. Sounds like they were a bit of a shambles defensively. Questions might be starting to be asked about Vinny.

[Winstonswhite]

Hammered by Barca tonight. Sounds like they were a bit of a shambles defensively. Questions might be starting to be asked about Vinny.

Questions will be asked of Vinny how they perform in the Champions League and the Bundesliga vs Dortmund/Leverkusen. So far he’s fallen short IMO

[bumba]

Look an utter shambles at the back, that Bayern squad should.never be losing to that Barca one let alone taking a hiding like that.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

https://youtu.be/W4rUyCIFF6M?feature=shared.

Just chip the ball in behind the defence and Bayern are completely done every time.

[DCWat]

https://youtu.be/W4rUyCIFF6M?feature=shared.

Just chip the ball in behind the defence and Bayern are completely done every time.

I’m sure that they’ll be ‘easy problems to solve’.

When / if it’s still happening in the New Year, the leniency shown will be far less.

[Juan Tanamera]

"This is the worst we'll be all season"

[IanMcL]

Probably haven't played the requisite matches, as yet. After that landmark, they will be unstoppable.

As Mr VK would say.

[ecc]

They were torn a new one last night.

[Quicknick]

"This is the worst we'll be all season"

Hilarious!

[jrgbfc]

As last season showed admitting he's wrong isn't one of Mr Kompanys strong points. They were struggling with the defensive high line when i saw them against Villa.

[Juan Tanamera]

Hilarious!

Thanks!

[ClaretOfMancunia]

Flicking over to watch the last 15 minutes of this was a highlight after our bore-fest. Yes, I'm petty.

[Spike]

Kompany lost it towards the end of the Promotion Season and has been clueless ever since

The Promotion season was amazing since then he’s been amazingly bad

[Swizzlestick]

Kompany lost it towards the end of the Promotion Season and has been clueless ever since

The Promotion season was amazing since then he’s been amazingly bad

They are currently top of the Bundesliga, for balance.

[Shaggy]

Kompany is not a top manager. He cannot adapt in any situation.

[Anonymous Claret]

They are currently top of the Bundesliga, for balance.

Not really that much to be proud of if you're a Bayern fan. Up until last season they had won the Bundesliga 11 or 12 seasons on the bounce.
They will probably win it again this year especially with Leverkusen in the CL. It's how they perform in Europe that will matter to the owners and fans.

[Commy]

https://sportwitness.co.uk/criminal-neg ... rn-munich/

Same mistakes.

[Swizzlestick]

Not really that much to be proud of if you're a Bayern fan. Up until last season they had won the Bundesliga 11 or 12 seasons on the bounce.
They will probably win it again this year especially with Leverkusen in the CL. It's how they perform in Europe that will matter to the owners and fans.

Well it was more a response to the post saying VK had been “useless” since he left us which isn’t really true. I think the fans will still care about winning a title.

[CatonClaret]

https://sportwitness.co.uk/criminal-neg ... rn-munich/

Same mistakes.

Really interesting article and thanks for posting.

Late October and serious questions being asked already? You’d think if they don’t get out of this early Champions League stage he probably gets potted?

[Rick_Muller]

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[IanMcL]

Been told to adapt! That won't come easy to Mr Ego.

It's either no ego or 'e goes!

[ArmchairDetective]

Same old story. Fantastic against lesser opposition. Getting found out when they're not.

Maybe Kompany and Parker could both learn a thing or two from each other in their approach to games against different levels of opposition.

[ecc]

The players have a lot of power there. Neuer, Kimmich and Müller have already seen off a number of managers.

[NewClaret]

Really interesting article and thanks for posting.

Late October and serious questions being asked already? You’d think if they don’t get out of this early Champions League stage he probably gets potted?

Hope not.

£5m rests on it for BFC which by all accounts our debt levels suggest we need to come our way.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

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[Big Vinny K]

Hope not.

£5m rests on it for BFC which by all accounts our debt levels suggest we need to come our way.

Won’t make much difference to our debt level.

Do you have a link for the terms of the compensation deal you can post please

[fatboy47]

Not sure even our board would be gullible enough to agree a compo deal that relied on VK winning the champions league

[Spijed]

Looking back, when we had players who went on to appear in the Europa league & Champions league final it's now obvious we were going to steam roller teams like Preston, and most of the league (Muric stood on the half way line for most of the game).

[dvalley69]

VK thinks he's the bees knees, but up against top teams he hasn't a clue, as BM are finding out. if he does 1 full season he'll have done good. Bundesliga is a very poor league in comparison to the Prem, as results suggest so far for Bayern.

[NewClaret]

Won’t make much difference to our debt level.

Do you have a link for the terms of the compensation deal you can post please

I don’t, but I remember that was what was reported at the time by a fairly reliable source. £10m rising to £15m in success-related add-ons. Vague recollection it was Ad Jones but might be wrong. If I get chance I will try and find the thread and flick through it later.

The point is though, regardless of specifics, it will undoubtedly have performance clauses of some description in the same way every contract will do, so it’s in BFC’s direct interests that he’s successful now. Thats before you consider the potential reputational benefits we may in the longer-term.

As for it not scratching the surface of our debt, I’m not sure anyone knows what that actually is now after £100m+ sales in summer, but I can’t imagine it’s less than 5-10% of total debt so a significant sum we could do with coming our way if possible.

[NewClaret]

Not sure even our board would be gullible enough to agree a compo deal that relied on VK winning the champions league

Well if it does contain one, we can discount it being paid this summer now but I’d imagine any performance add-ons would range from the quite achievable (contract extensions, winning the league, etc) to very unlikely (like champions league).

[THEWELLERNUT70]

I don’t, but I remember that was what was reported at the time by a fairly reliable source. £10m rising to £15m in success-related add-ons. Vague recollection it was Ad Jones but might be wrong. If I get chance I will try and find the thread and flick through it later.

The point is though, regardless of specifics, it will undoubtedly have performance clauses of some description in the same way every contract will do, so it’s in BFC’s direct interests that he’s successful now. Thats before you consider the potential reputational benefits we may in the longer-term.

As for it not scratching the surface of our debt, I’m not sure anyone knows what that actually is now after £100m+ sales in summer, but I can’t imagine it’s less than 5-10% of total debt so a significant sum we could do with coming our way if possible.

So we will still will be guaranteed the widely reported 10 million fee then? That's still outstanding business for a manager who is essentially showing himself to be nothing more than a flat track bully!

[NewClaret]

So we will still will be guaranteed the widely reported 10 million fee then? That's still outstanding business for a manager who is essentially showing himself to be nothing more than a flat track bully!

What I remember being reported is £10m guaranteed with an additional £5m available in success-related add-ons, so yes, if that’s correct.

Sensational business for a manager. 3rd highest ever, I think I read.

[Swizzlestick]

Barca just battered Madrid in their own back yard too. Almost as if they’re a really, really good team.

[gandhisflipflop]

Barca just battered Madrid in their own back yard too. Almost as if they’re a really, really good team.

They didn’t batter them. They had a really really good second half.

[jrgbfc]

Barca just battered Madrid in their own back yard too. Almost as if they’re a really, really good team.

Thats the level Bayern expect to be at though. Nobody will be impressed by putting 7 or 8 past cannon fodder.

[IanMcL]

Bochum (bottom league) 0 Bayern Munchen 5

Kane managed one.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Freak result for Bayern yesterday. 2-0 up, they got a red card and then lost 3-2 to Bochum, who are just above the relegation zone.

My father in-law went across for the game and sent me these pictures. Incredible support.

[Quicknick]

I can't do with this type of stylised support, as per the above photo.

[ChrisG]

I can't do with this type of stylised support, as per the above photo.

It's better when it's at one end. The Nordwestkurve at Eintracht has some belters, and it's all organised by the fan clubs in that end with no club involvement. Much more organic.

The atmosphere is miles better than anything in the UK where people react to a goal and that's it.

[Quicknick]

It's better when it's at one end. The Nordwestkurve at Eintracht has some belters, and it's all organised by the fan clubs in that end with no club involvement. Much more organic.

The atmosphere is miles better than anything in the UK where people react to a goal and that's it.

True about the general atmosphere.

[quoonbeatz]

Looks good unless you’re in it. Same with all the big flag ********.

The regimented ultra thing is just as dull as reacting only to goals for me, largely because they barely react to goals. If you aren’t watching the game you might not realise a team had scored. The games I’ve been to in Germany where they have a constant din are good the first couple of times but the novelty wears off pretty quick.

Nothing better than an organic football atmosphere, where the importance and flow of the game dictate. All too rare now, of course.

Having a beer in the stands is obvs the bit where they excel and are way ahead of us.

[Exeterclaret]

It's better when it's at one end. The Nordwestkurve at Eintracht has some belters, and it's all organised by the fan clubs in that end with no club involvement. Much more organic.

The atmosphere is miles better than anything in the UK where people react to a goal and that's it.

It's very true. In Germany fans are very much singing and behind the team for the full ninety regardless of what's happening on the pitch.

It's much more conditional in England and given the right circumstances that can translate into really good atmospheres, but often English grounds can be very quiet especially if things aren't going well in the game or the wider season.

[Devils_Advocate]

If Kompany does the unthinkable and wins the Bundesliga / Champions League double will that make him the greatest manager to ever have managed Burnley FC?

[Exeterclaret]

If Kompany does the unthinkable and wins the Bundesliga / Champions League double will that make him the greatest manager to ever have managed Burnley FC?

The majority on here would still say he's crap. He clearly isn't though,

[Cooclaret]

The majority on here would still say he's crap. He clearly isn't though,

He’s arrogant, that’s not an attribute to have when you’re new to the role.