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Quickenthetempo
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by Quickenthetempo » Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:15 pm
northeastclaret wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 3:16 pm
It is now two months that Tresor was desperate to sign for another team, Ajax I think it was. And reports were he was very upset to not leave. I would assume if Ajax had met our asking price and he signed for them I doubt very much it would be on the basis that he didn’t kick a ball for what is now two months.
With the squad stretched this weekend if Tresor is not involved or and explanation given we can only assume he is a complete ar@ehole who is robbing the club blind.
Or the club are stopping him playing?
A strong journalist needs to ask Scott Parker these questions.
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by warksclaret » Wed Oct 30, 2024 5:33 pm
If there was a payment due if Tresor got to 10 games then you must assume he would have been be moved on by the club. I did read, I think from what Matt Williams said, that Tresor was told during the last window that he would not be leaving us, as he represented a significant cost signing , and the club would in future try to recover their outlay. It was hoped he would be playing for us soon, and be in the shop window so to speak.We also understood from Parker he was training with the first team 4 or 5 weeks ago. The fact he appears to be no where close to starting suggests his heart is not in it, or he has shown a bad attitude in training. Someone in the next press conference needs to be getting an answer from Parker on the Tresor situation, rather than hitting him with a string of absolutely irrelevant questions
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by dcunningham27 » Wed Oct 30, 2024 6:52 pm
Ekdal and redmond both on training pics on clubs instagram today
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by mybloodisclaret » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:27 pm
I thought there were pics of Tressor training last week where he literally couldn't have looked much happier?
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by IanMcL » Wed Oct 30, 2024 10:52 pm
Treasure or treason
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by Andreshotboots » Thu Oct 31, 2024 8:52 am
All I can say regarding Mike Tresor is Mr Williams was asked about him at the Q&A I started a thread on and the answer was basically Tresor isn't going anywhere at the moment, we've paid a lot for him and we want some return on that before we even contemplate selling him. There was no mention of a set game amount triggering anither transfer payment.
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by summitclaret » Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:56 am
There wouldn't be any such public mention.
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by what_no_pies » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:31 am
Numerous players ongoing absence ultimately arc back to VK mismanaging injuries.
We can only hope that Parker/Pace are installing AND EMPOWERING a new team of experts and that lessons have been learned about giving a manager (especially such an inexperienced one) so much autonomy.
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by Andreshotboots » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:47 am
summitclaret wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 10:56 am
There wouldn't be any such public mention.
He was incredibly public and open about a whole host of situations regarding players etc, far far more than what I think he should have been.
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by mickleoverclaret » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:36 pm
summitclaret wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2024 4:38 pm
There's no other rational explanation.
One other explanation might be Parker doesn't think he's good enough or won't provide what he wants. I think there's an assumption because he was good in Belgium and we paid a massive amount of money for him that he'd be a great option in this league, but maybe the manager doesn't see it that way.
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by Row x » Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:41 pm
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:31 am
Numerous players ongoing absence ultimately arc back to VK mismanaging injuries.
Do you have proof of that?
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by summitclaret » Thu Oct 31, 2024 1:54 pm
mickleoverclaret wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:36 pm
One other explanation might be Parker doesn't think he's good enough or won't provide what he wants. I think there's an assumption because he was good in Belgium and we paid a massive amount of money for him that he'd be a great option in this league, but maybe the manager doesn't see it that way.
Don't buy that. Surely when you are as desperate as we are getting to create and score, you'd give him a try from the bench, unless you were told that you couldn't.
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what_no_pies
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by what_no_pies » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:16 pm
Row x wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 12:41 pm
Do you have proof of that?
See calendar.
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by Swizzlestick » Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:36 pm
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:31 am
Numerous players ongoing absence ultimately arc back to VK mismanaging injuries.
We can only hope that Parker/Pace are installing AND EMPOWERING a new team of experts and that lessons have been learned about giving a manager (especially such an inexperienced one) so much autonomy.
This seems like a big claim. Surely VK was guided by medical professionals? Are you suggesting he overruled them?
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by evensteadiereddie » Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:14 am
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 11:31 am
Numerous players ongoing absence ultimately arc back to VK mismanaging injuries.
We can only hope that Parker/Pace are installing AND EMPOWERING a new team of experts and that lessons have been learned about giving a manager (especially such an inexperienced one) so much autonomy.
That's an interesting one.
Could you be a bit more specific by, perhaps, naming he players you're referring to and outlining their injuries individually and tell us precisely how those injuries were mismanaged by VK.
Thanks.
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what_no_pies
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by what_no_pies » Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:32 am
All I know is that our injury record has been appalling since VK arrived and we're being kept in the dark by and large. Putting two and two together...
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by Conroy92 » Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:51 am
evensteadiereddie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:14 am
That's an interesting one.
Could you be a bit more specific by, perhaps, naming he players you're referring to and outlining their injuries individually and tell us precisely how those injuries were mismanaged by VK.
Thanks.
I think Beyers comments around his injury were a bit cryptic
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Row x
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by Row x » Fri Nov 01, 2024 10:02 am
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:32 am
All I know is that our injury record has been appalling since VK arrived and we're being kept in the dark by and large. Putting two and two together...
Putting two and two together and making libelous comments, congratulations
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by bfcjg » Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:05 pm
Not sure how Kompany can be blamed for injuries unless his training regime didn't build up stamina/ flexibility.
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by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:24 pm
what_no_pies wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:32 am
All I know is that our injury record has been appalling since VK arrived and we're being kept in the dark by and large. Putting two and two together...
If anything has to do with VK I'd suggest it was signing players not physically prepared for the rigours of English football.