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Goliath
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Promotion

Post by Goliath » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:11 pm

In the hypothetical situation that we get promoted at the end of the season, we would probably have a lot of much better options than last summer as a potential manager.

In that scenario could we be one of the first to sack a manager straight after promotion?
Unlikely but would be an interesting scenario, not sure if it's ever happened before.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Bosscat » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:16 pm

Perhaps we should get there 1st 🤣 after last night not sure we will be there or thereabouts 🙄

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Re: Promotion

Post by Andreshotboots » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:17 pm

I'd have a bet with anybody now, that the 3 promoted teams this season, all come straight back down..

In a sadistic way, that's why I'dije to see Blackburn go up..They've no idea how much better the Premier League is since they were last in it, and they'd have to spend massively, getting into even more debt and still come straight back down!!!

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Re: Promotion

Post by KlyBfc » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:18 pm

Im far from a Parker fan, but should he get us promoted (which im not sure he will) then there is no way he should be replaced. He would have fully earnt the right to manage us in the prem.
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Re: Promotion

Post by Goliath » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:22 pm

KlyBfc wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:18 pm
Im far from a Parker fan, but should he get us promoted (which im not sure he will) then there is no way he should be replaced. He would have fully earnt the right to manage us in the prem.
Maybe but playing devil's advocate, isn't that quite a naive way to look at it.

If there's a potentially better manager available and we'd continued with this dour style of play all season, wouldn't it give us a better chance of staying in the division if we could get someone that would excite the fans, attract better players and play a brand of football which could get us a few more goals

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Re: Promotion

Post by dougcollins » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:26 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:22 pm
Maybe but playing devil's advocate, isn't that quite a naive way to look at it.

If there's a potentially better manager available and we'd continued with this dour style of play all season, wouldn't it give us a better chance of staying in the division if we could get someone that would excite the fans, attract better players and play a brand of football which could get us a few more goals
His pragmatism would actually be more useful in the prem than it is right now.

There's no way we're going up right now in any case.
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Re: Promotion

Post by Walt » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:26 pm

Well Mourinho said he wants to manage a team near the bottom.

Not that I think we should, or would sack Parker if we go up.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:27 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:22 pm
Maybe but playing devil's advocate, isn't that quite a naive way to look at it.

If there's a potentially better manager available and we'd continued with this dour style of play all season, wouldn't it give us a better chance of staying in the division if we could get someone that would excite the fans, attract better players and play a brand of football which could get us a few more goals
Your problem would come with unsettling your best players, the minute the manager is potted the agents will be out looking for moves away

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Re: Promotion

Post by Mattster » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:29 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:26 pm
His pragmatism would actually be more useful in the prem than it is right now.

There's no way we're going up right now in any case.
It has never proven that way before. Parker only gets results with this football when he has better players than the opposition. He's never going to have that in the Premier League.
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Re: Promotion

Post by beddie » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:49 pm

Walt wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:26 pm
Well Mourinho said he wants to manage a team near the bottom.

Not that I think we should, or would sack Parker if we go up.
If Pace hears that about Mourinho he’ll be on the phone now. :)

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Re: Promotion

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:52 pm

beddie wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:49 pm
If Pace hears that about Mourinho he’ll be on the phone now. :)
And it'd be a short phone call once Mourinho tells him how much he wants.
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Re: Promotion

Post by Billyblah » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:05 pm

There's a lot of work to do in the January transfer window (striker/attacking players) if we are to have any chance of promotion.
In terms of manager, if Parker gets lured to wherever the grass might be greener....bring back Sean, all is forgiven.
Controversial I know!!

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Re: Promotion

Post by brexit » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:07 pm

lol

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Re: Promotion

Post by karatekid » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:13 pm

KlyBfc wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:18 pm
Im far from a Parker fan, but should he get us promoted (which im not sure he will) then there is no way he should be replaced. He would have fully earnt the right to manage us in the prem.
Does that apply to the players as well? If they get us up should we say they have earned the right and not recruit better players or does it only apply to the manager?
If better quality personnel are available and affordable we would be silly not to upgrade, no matter what their position at the club.

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Re: Promotion

Post by KlyBfc » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:18 pm

karatekid wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:13 pm
Does that apply to the players as well? If they get us up should we say they have earned the right and not recruit better players or does it only apply to the manager?
If better quality personnel are available and affordable we would be silly not to upgrade, no matter what their position at the club.
Thats different though, as the players can compete, train and fight for the start, the manager is the manager. And yes players who play a pivotal role should be kept on and get the chance in the prem to be around a squad and to prove they are good enough to start, we all saw what trying to completely upgrade did for us last year .

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Re: Promotion

Post by jos » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:21 pm

Parker isn’t the guy kicking the ball on the pitch, if he had better players than what he currently has to work with (the team we started the season with for example) he’d do just fine.
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Re: Promotion

Post by Clive 1960 » Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:45 am

Half way through the season and we are 3rd so let's see what January brings, personally i think we will get a striker on loan to a view to sign if we go up and possibly a couple being sold..
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Re: Promotion

Post by IanMcL » Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:21 pm

Billyblah wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:05 pm
There's a lot of work to do in the January transfer window (striker/attacking players) if we are to have any chance of promotion.
In terms of manager, if Parker gets lured to wherever the grass might be greener....bring back Sean, all is forgiven.
Controversial I know!!
In Sean we trust.

I am one of the minority that enjoyed his British football and all out dying for the cause. Lots of long balls, hold up, pass to winger, down the line, cross, in the mix, cleared or goal but uncomfortable for the prem defences.

Crowd right in the action at both ends. Not asleep for 20 mins with this 'payience' football, whilst the opposition have a sit down, waiting for us to get up there.
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Re: Promotion

Post by dougcollins » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:21 pm

You do appreciate there's a whole load of middle ground between Parker and Dyche - it doesn't have to be one extreme or the other?

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Re: Promotion

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:25 pm

The squad we have are nowhere near 17th in any PL ever. We would need to spend a fortune we haven’t got to stay up. Get used to boing boing and enjoy it. A season of watching some of the best players in the world followed by a season of challenging for promotion.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Colburn_Claret » Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:50 pm

No question that the person who gets us promoted has earned the right to lead us in the Prem.

As for sacking them early, it would seem pointless. Watching the Prem, this season and last, it is drifting further away from clubs like Burnley to maintain a presence. Even the so called smaller clubs have sugar daddies, when my head rules my heart we can't compete with that. Not without a massive piece of luck. In hindsight we fell lucky on the timing of our promotions.

I still think we had a squad good enough to stay up under Kompany, but a lack of pragmatism cost us dearly. We need to focus on making a profit on saleable assets and build a fighting fund for future promotions. It isn't going to be easy for fans, especially if they think we have a right to stay up, as Tricky Trevor said, get used to the boing, boing and don't let it make your head drop.

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Re: Promotion

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:08 pm

Boing boing is great isn’t it?

If it’s guaranteed. Which it isn’t.

We are unlikely to go up this season. We’ve done really well to stay in touch with the others, but failing to score goals will see us fall away. We can be tighter than a submarine door every week, but if we fail to score, we won’t be anywhere near the top six. Our recent performances have improved (except Derby) but we cannot put teams to the sword. I’m not sure a new striker solves that problem.

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Re: Promotion

Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:21 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:22 pm
... playing devil's advocate, isn't that quite a naive way to look at it.

If there's a potentially better manager available... wouldn't it give us a better chance of staying in the division...
But isn't that exactly the attitude, albeit from the opposite standpoint, that the overwhelming majority of Burnley supporters condemned Owen Coyle for taking?

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Re: Promotion

Post by alwaysaclaret » Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:03 am

Need a striker in, or we can forget it. IMO

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Re: Promotion

Post by Goliath » Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:10 am

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 11:21 pm
But isn't that exactly the attitude, albeit from the opposite standpoint, that the overwhelming majority of Burnley supporters condemned Owen Coyle for taking?
Gone over my head this one. How so? We were above Bolton and about to bring in Jack Wilshere, Stuart Holden and Vladimir Weiss. That would have given us a brilliant chance of staying up.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Spijed » Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:40 am

bobinho wrote:
Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:08 pm
Boing boing is great isn’t it?

If it’s guaranteed. Which it isn’t.

We are unlikely to go up this season. We’ve done really well to stay in touch with the others, but failing to score goals will see us fall away. We can be tighter than a submarine door every week, but if we fail to score, we won’t be anywhere near the top six. Our recent performances have improved (except Derby) but we cannot put teams to the sword. I’m not sure a new striker solves that problem.
And yet many probably think West Brom will be thereabouts the play offs. A team who can't score either.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Quicknick » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:57 am

Goliath wrote:
Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:11 pm
In the hypothetical situation that we get promoted at the end of the season, we would probably have a lot of much better options than last summer as a potential manager.

In that scenario could we be one of the first to sack a manager straight after promotion?
Unlikely but would be an interesting scenario, not sure if it's ever happened before.
Are you serious?

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Re: Promotion

Post by Staniola » Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:19 am

Quicknick wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:57 am
Are you serious?
He can’t be. Threads about replacing the Manager when we are third in the league or when we hypothetically get promoted are so far removed from reality it’s untrue. Modern day football fans eh?
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Re: Promotion

Post by Goliath » Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:51 am

Not everything has to be taken completely serious. As I said it's a hypothetical scenario.

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Re: Promotion

Post by Quicknick » Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:56 am

Staniola wrote:
Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:19 am
He can’t be. Threads about replacing the Manager when we are third in the league or when we hypothetically get promoted are so far removed from reality it’s untrue. Modern day football fans eh?
Exactly.

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