Pace on Tresor

[warksclaret]

Like most fans I had hoped to see this guy in the Championship where he could have been a sensational player. However the longer we go surrounded in mystery, the more I reflect on those gutless and cowardly performances of his like Brentford away and Luton at home. Is he ever going to be "up for the fight"??

[HahaYeah]

I’d give him a Bertie Bee outfit and tell him to entertain the kids.

I’d give him a Bertie Bee outfit and tell him to buzz off.

[Elizabeth]

I'd give him the Bella Bee outfit until he grows a pair of

[dougcollins]

Wings?

[k90bfc]

He does not want to be here,get as much as we can for him,and let him go,of the books,wages etc,UTC.

[Shaggy]

Another Megamind disaster signing.

Hes as bad as Coyle was. Full of BS and as soon as he’s about to be found out high tails it off somewhere else.

We’ve lost a fortune on Tresor

[JohnDearyMe]

Hats off to Pace, Parker and Tresor on this one.

Their elaborate plotting has successfully lulled the rest of the league into a false sense of security and they simply won't know what has hit them once Tresor is unleashed out of the blue.

[Claretitus]

Unleashed? From what we saw last season he’s not got the effort to force his way out of a wet paper bag. As stated earlier in the thread, the worst ever signing at the club.

[fidelcastro]

Unleashed? From what we saw last season he’s not got the effort to force his way out of a wet paper bag. As stated earlier in the thread, the worst ever signing at the club.

I think he was being sarcastic.

[Claretitus]

I think he was being sarcastic.

So do I, but some on here do see him as the Messiah. He’s not of course, he’s just a very naughty boy.

[fidelcastro]

So do I, but some on here do see him as the Messiah. He’s not of course, he’s just a very naughty boy.

I thought someone was on the wind-up when I saw he was in their best XI, but others then did the same.

I'd love to know what they've seen!

[Lowbankclaret]

Tresor is on strike, simple.

Just like the rest of the squad was to force a move.

Personally I would just let him rot, by the time his contract runs out, no one will even know his name.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Tresor is on strike, simple.

Just like the rest of the squad was to force a move.

Personally I would just let him rot, by the time his contract runs out, no one will even know his name.

Who would that benefit?

[fidelcastro]

Who would that benefit?

No one, but there needs to be a concerted effort to get him off the books next month.

[TsarBomba]

No one, but there needs to be a concerted effort to get him off the books next month.

Yep, get rid and use the money to bring in someone like James McAtee on loan from City.

[warksclaret]

Sadly he is "damaged goods"and we will struggle to find a club prepared to take him, let alone get decent money for him, unless there is a manager in Europe who has managed him previously

[Bordeauxclaret]

No one, but there needs to be a concerted effort to get him off the books next month.

It would seem so.

Letting him rot is a weird approach though.

[Nonayforever]

Loan the waste of space to Accrington Stanley

[fidelcastro]

It would seem so.

Letting him rot is a weird approach though.

Agreed, but that's not going to happen. They'd actually cancel his contract before letting him become the next Winston Bogarde.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Agreed, but that's not going to happen. They'd actually cancel his contract before letting him become the next Winston Bogarde.

Perhaps we need some persuasion from some sort of criminal organisation?

[fidelcastro]

Perhaps we need some persuasion from some sort of criminal organisation?

Or rather Tresor does

[kentonclaret]

Obviously the news hasn’t yet reached Alan that Tresor will be the last Resort.

[Elizabeth]

Personally I don't think the lad has a chance if he was to take the field again because there is so much bad feeling against him now , whether that is deserved or not .

[Wokingclaret]

Personally I don't think the lad has a chance if he was to take the field again because there is so much bad feeling against him now , whether that is deserved or not .

Well I thought the same about Wout but he came back.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Any player that goes on the pitch and gives his all gets support from the fans.

At any club.

[Ric_C]

We’d be cooking on gas.

lol good one

[Juan Tanamera]

A player is a disgrace to football, if he has been fit and refuses to play.

Have I missed something, the bit about him refusing to play?

[IanMcL]

Have I missed something, the bit about him refusing to play?

Doesn't say Tresor has refused. It says, 'if a player '.

[Juan Tanamera]

Doesn't say Tresor has refused. It says, 'if a player '.

Ah I see, so you probably didn't have Tresor in mind with that statement.
Sorted.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

Such a shame. What possible benefit to the player is there of refusing to play/train properly, if these reports are to be believed?

[what_no_pies]

Such a shame. What possible benefit to the player is there of refusing to play/train properly, if these reports are to be believed?

Where are the reports that he is refusing to play/train properly?

[ClaretOfMancunia]

Where are the reports that he is refusing to play/train properly?

Those mentioned by several other posters in this thread, including the comments from Alan Pace - and I specifically said "if they are to be believed", unless you missed that part?

My question is hypothetical and stands, so I will ask it again. What would the player have to gain in this scenario, if such reports were true?

[hoosier-daddy]

If he was on strike, then we'd surely be fining him weekly. And if that were the case you'd expect it to have been leaked.

[Rileybobs]

Those mentioned by several other posters in this thread, including the comments from Alan Pace - and I specifically said "if they are to be believed", unless you missed that part?

My question is hypothetical and stands, so I will ask it again. What would the player have to gain in this scenario, if such reports were true?

A couple of things I guess. Forcing the club’s hand so they are in a position where they have no option but to sell him/loan him out. And reducing the chance of picking up an injury which could hinder that move.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

A couple of things I guess. Forcing the club’s hand so they are in a position where they have no option but to sell him/loan him out. And reducing the chance of picking up an injury which could hinder that move.

Yes, I suppose. Seems quite a short-sighted approach as you would assume it reduces the player's value or attractiveness if prospective managers know the player is prone to downing tools.

[IanMcL]

Ah I see, so you probably didn't have Tresor in mind with that statement.
Sorted.

We don't know why Tresor is not playing. Therefore all posts, conjecture.

[Ric_C]

We don't know why Tresor is not playing. Therefore all posts, conjecture.

Yeah but we can theorise based on the timings of events

End of last season / close season - Rumours that we were trying to find a loophole so as not to stump up the cash for Tresor
Summer window - Tresor and agent get wind of this and want out (or just want out in general)
Close of window - No buyers (unsurprisingly) for Tresor - last minute loan to AJAX falls through
Tresor the posts a sulky face on his social media
Start of season - Rumours of him going AWOL, turns out he was ill
After the first ten games - Pictures of him in training, manager says he is "close"
Two weeks ago - Burnley use him on merchandise push (still can't get my head around that one)
Last week - Pace says he is fit, but is not available to play.

So in summary, Tresor got in a big strop about still being here, and after his illness, is just using our facilities to keep himself fit until he gets a loan in Jan. Not sulking as it isn't in his best interests, but also not making himself available for selection.

What a mess.

[exilecanada]

Parker should pick Tresor for next matchday squad, if he refuses he's in breach of contract. Drive him to Burnley bus station and say goodbye

[ClaretPete001]

Alan Pace said something along the lines of - Tresor is fit - the club want him to play - but he (Pace) is not sure he (Tresor) feels the same way.

I don't know how many different interpretations of that you can have other than he is in dispute with the club in some way.

I guess the club could fine him if they can prove he is making himself unavailable but there is nothing in the media and I guess like Amorim said about Rashford - a lack of effort in training, poor relations with fellow players and a negative attitude does not constitute a disciplinary offence.

The general sense I got from Alan Pace was along the lines of . I can't say it how it is but I can't be bothered pretending there isn't an issue because it's pretty much a fait accompli and nothing is to be gained from pretending otherwise.

But I could be wrong

[123EasyasBFC]

Can’t believe there’s people on social media suggesting that the reason Tresor isn’t playing is because Parker isn’t picking him, there is no way Parker wouldn’t at least have him on the bench

[DCWat]

Can’t believe there’s people on social media suggesting that the reason Tresor isn’t playing is because Parker isn’t picking him, there is no way Parker wouldn’t at least have him on the bench

What if he thinks he’s a bit **** or not putting in the required levels in training. That’s two ways that Parker might not pick him.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Alan Pace said something along the lines of - Tresor is fit - the club want him to play - but he (Pace) is not sure he (Tresor) feels the same way.

This is precisely what Pace said to me off camera. Coupled with what he said on camera, it means Tresor is either on openly on strike or making excuses up to ensure he isn't selected. Either way, it's two sides of the same coin.

[Wo Didi]

He didn't want to sign for us in the first place and he played like he didn't want to be here on his rare appearances. I'm sick of hearing his name and just want him gone, although there's no chance anyone pays us what we paid, I can see a series of loans to places like Turkey or the best outcome would be one of the oil money clubs in Saudi come in for him, £15m would be nothing to them. Get him out and get a striker in. And a left and right back.

[Quicknick]

He didn't want to sign for us in the first place and he played like he didn't want to be here on his rare appearances. I'm sick of hearing his name and just want him gone, although there's no chance anyone pays us what we paid, I can see a series of loans to places like Turkey or the best outcome would be one of the oil money clubs in Saudi come in for him, £15m would be nothing to them. Get him out and get a striker in. And a left and right back.

Saudi is a good idea.

[agreenwood]

I’m not sure I believe he’s “on strike”. He’s training with the first team and being used in club marketing photo-shoots. In what world would a club accept either of those things if a player was refusing to play? Normally you’d be training on your own or with the youth team and you certainly wouldn’t be involved in any wider commercial activity.

I did wonder if it’s a contractual thing. Is he or his old club due something when he’s played x amount of games. Maybe we’re trying to negotiate that out of his contract before we’ll play him again?

Or Parker just doesn’t rate him and won’t pick him.

[mybloodisclaret]

See him driving through Padiham towards Gawthorpe in his big Merc a few times recently. Honestly seen him waving at people and looking really quite happy.

[scouseclaret]

Pace should just come out and state clearly what’s going on. If Tresor is refusing to play and stealing a very substantial wage from the club, why try and protect him? It’ll be common knowledge (or at least the assumption) within the football community anyway so it’s not likely to affect his rapidly diminishing transfer value.

[gandhisflipflop]

See him driving through Padiham towards Gawthorpe in his big Merc a few times recently. Honestly seen him waving at people and looking really quite happy.

I’m surprised he doesn’t get a two fingered response

[Ric_C]

I'd be happy getting 50k a week for doing nothing

[Blyclaret]

As an employer …. I have experienced some bad staff over years. Refuses to do the work asked. Late for work. Using every excuse under the sun to get out of working. Commonly known in the business as a bad *******. I think Mikey fits into that category.