Has the football improved lately?
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Has the football improved lately?
Hi guys
I was wondering the above , haven’t watched us for weeks.
Good goal by Fleming other day and I see people are clambering to give brownhill a wage increase lol
Any good attacks happening lately you can link me to?
I was wondering the above , haven’t watched us for weeks.
Good goal by Fleming other day and I see people are clambering to give brownhill a wage increase lol
Any good attacks happening lately you can link me to?
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Climbing up where?
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The attacking play hasn't improved no, it's gone back a few notches in the last couple of games.
But some fans like the defensive play and possession based football, that side has been fine.
But some fans like the defensive play and possession based football, that side has been fine.
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Was fine at Stoke, particularly 2nd half.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:02 amThe attacking play hasn't improved no, it's gone back a few notches in the last couple of games.
But some fans like the defensive play and possession based football, that side has been fine.
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Points make prizes-so far so good
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I think the last time I truly enjoyed watching us was when Coyle took us up that season. The football we played was outstanding. There was bits under Dyche that were decent but not masses. Defour had a lot to do with the bits that appeared.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:02 amThe attacking play hasn't improved no, it's gone back a few notches in the last couple of games.
But some fans like the defensive play and possession based football, that side has been fine.
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If you didn't enjoy the season just 2 year ago then it is fair to say Burnley is never going to suit your demandsSuperjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:37 amI think the last time I truly enjoyed watching us was when Coyle took us up that season. The football we played was outstanding.
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What did you think about the Coyle style?claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:39 amIf you didn't enjoy the season just 2 year ago then it is fair to say Burnley is never going to suit your demands
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So you've been watching football you didn't like for 15 years?Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:37 amI think the last time I truly enjoyed watching us was when Coyle took us up that season.
Bit sad that. I'd gave found something else to do 14 years back.
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Yeah, that's when I thought we had turned the corner. The manager had spoken about training being attack focused and it improved.
Derby was woeful in the final 3rd.
Norwich was woeful all over 1st half but improved 2nd.
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Unfortunately you can’t deprogramme the first team you support.
Even Jimmy Mullens football was light years ahead of this current stuff.
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Wow it really is you Johnny Francis.....!Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:48 amUnfortunately you can’t deprogramme the first team you support.
Even Jimmy Mullens football was light years ahead of this current stuff.
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As with most managers some really bad, some poor, some good and some excellent.
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Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:48 amUnfortunately you can’t deprogramme the first team you support.
Even Jimmy Mullens football was light years ahead of this current stuff.
Surely if you don't go on games and don't even bother to watch on TV then maybe casual fan is better term than supporter
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Indeed, but I don't call talking your team down all over social media "supporting"Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:48 amUnfortunately you can’t deprogramme the first team you support.
Especially when they're a small town club, right up there battling hard for promotion to the biggest league in world football.
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Is this a serious post ?Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:48 amUnfortunately you can’t deprogramme the first team you support.
Even Jimmy Mullens football was light years ahead of this current stuff.
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There is more to football than attacks! A good defence is also a requirement and, as we've only conceded 8 goals in 21 games and no team has scored more than 1 goal against us, I'd say that we're doing pretty good in the department!Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:56 amHi guys
I was wondering the above , haven’t watched us for weeks.
Good goal by Fleming other day and I see people are clambering to give brownhill a wage increase lol
Any good attacks happening lately you can link me to?
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I can only imagine this is a fishing expedition, but I’ll answer.
No, not really. It’s a mixed bag but success and improvement is not linear so that’s hardly a surprise.
I think we look better vs teams that have a go at us than teams that sit back. That’s where we seem to have no clue and need more urgency, creativity and skill. Sarmiento is the only one who offers that in my opinion.
In short: I wouldn’t bother tuning in again yet.
No, not really. It’s a mixed bag but success and improvement is not linear so that’s hardly a surprise.
I think we look better vs teams that have a go at us than teams that sit back. That’s where we seem to have no clue and need more urgency, creativity and skill. Sarmiento is the only one who offers that in my opinion.
In short: I wouldn’t bother tuning in again yet.
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The Coyle season gets better every year. It’s only remember because it was soooo out of the blue. Our highest position before that season was 7th under Stan. 13th the highest before Coyle. Crowds down to around pre Old Divison 2 Stan promotion year. We’ve played far better since.
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There was a confidence under Kompany, even though we have similar points atm, you could just tell that we were very good, and that when we clicked we would be unstoppable.
We are very hit and miss today. At our best we look a very good team, not brilliant, but very good. When we aren't at our best we can look awful. Very pedestrian, very predictable, very boring. Our best football is always when we go on the front foot, and move the ball faster through the lines. Playing slowly just allows the opposition to set up their defence before we get anywhere near them.
Parker has a lot of credit in hand, not for his style of play, or the points we have, but because he picked up the shitty end of the stick and ran with it, when many would have run away.
My only gripe would be we all seem to agree where we are failing, including SP, but we don't appear to be doing anything different to address the issues. Just more of the same, and that rarely ever works.
We are very hit and miss today. At our best we look a very good team, not brilliant, but very good. When we aren't at our best we can look awful. Very pedestrian, very predictable, very boring. Our best football is always when we go on the front foot, and move the ball faster through the lines. Playing slowly just allows the opposition to set up their defence before we get anywhere near them.
Parker has a lot of credit in hand, not for his style of play, or the points we have, but because he picked up the shitty end of the stick and ran with it, when many would have run away.
My only gripe would be we all seem to agree where we are failing, including SP, but we don't appear to be doing anything different to address the issues. Just more of the same, and that rarely ever works.
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According to the" prison isn’t harsh enough" brigade all cells have colour televisions, SJF has just put paid to that lie.Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:56 amHi guys
I was wondering the above , haven’t watched us for weeks.
Good goal by Fleming other day and I see people are clambering to give brownhill a wage increase lol
Any good attacks happening lately you can link me to?
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I think this sums us up exactly. We'll play a couple of passages of football where we zip it around, commit players forward, even - god forbid - run at defenders, and we look like we did two years ago, ie, too good for the level we're at. But unlike two years ago, those 5 minute spells soon fizzle out, and we're back to meaningless possession and safety first.Colburn_Claret wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:39 pmWe are very hit and miss today. At our best we look a very good team, not brilliant, but very good. When we aren't at our best we can look awful. Very pedestrian, very predictable, very boring. Our best football is always when we go on the front foot, and move the ball faster through the lines. Playing slowly just allows the opposition to set up their defence before we get anywhere near them.
That Norwich game summed it all up. As poor, half hearted, boring and insipid a 45 minutes of football as you'll ever see. Then a glimpse of what we can do.
History tells us - or at least SP's track record does - that none of this will change. We'll carry on being competent but mostly dull, rarely get battered, and eke out enough points to keep us just about close enough to where we want to be.
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Earlier this season we looked scared to death of the ball. I think that has improved overall. Trafford for one looks more confident. Obviously, we still need to sort the final bit out where there's a lethal striker to put the ball in the net.
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It's hit and miss from game to game, but generally it's been better away from home where we tend to get more space and opportunities to break. Things got better with WBA away and have mostly been better since. At home we're still not a great watch as a rule (maybe Coventry excepted).
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Not having that, the Coyle promotion season is by far the best season I've had watching Burnley.Dyched wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 12:33 pmThe Coyle season gets better every year. It’s only remember because it was soooo out of the blue. Our highest position before that season was 7th under Stan. 13th the highest before Coyle. Crowds down to around pre Old Divison 2 Stan promotion year. We’ve played far better since.
He signed a bunch of young attacking players and told them to go out and play which is exactly what they did. It was an absolute joy to watch that team. We have had better sides but any of them would have found it tough going against that side at it's very best from about March to November time in 2009.
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2 seasons ago is nowhere near your best season? We played better football than the Coyle promotion season and ripped the Championship to pieces. Don't get me wrong, the Wembley promotion was bloody superb, but in no way shape or form is it miles better than 2 seasons ago.
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The overall approach, involving a lot of risk-free possession from one side of the pitch backwards and across to the other side, is really dull. It's not miles away from a lot of the football under VK, which could also be boring, but that side had Beyer who would carry out of defence to break things up, wingers who were played on form, and really quality from fullback from Maatsen.
The problem is with the wingers (consistently bang out of form with no fit alternatives) and CF (no consistency through injuries and no service). If just one of Benson, Tresor or Redmond was available we'd be looking much better, but as it is, particularly against teams that sit it and let us have it, we're getting no quality from out wide.
If we can bring in a decent attacking full back and a winger, and get some forwards off the treatment table we'll win the league.
The problem is with the wingers (consistently bang out of form with no fit alternatives) and CF (no consistency through injuries and no service). If just one of Benson, Tresor or Redmond was available we'd be looking much better, but as it is, particularly against teams that sit it and let us have it, we're getting no quality from out wide.
If we can bring in a decent attacking full back and a winger, and get some forwards off the treatment table we'll win the league.
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I preferred the coyle season. Direct, attacking football. Beating the big boys at Turf Moor. Underdog mentality, comebacks, late goals.hoosier-daddy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:04 pm2 seasons ago is nowhere near your best season? We played better football than the Coyle promotion season and ripped the Championship to pieces. Don't get me wrong, the Wembley promotion was bloody superb, but in no way shape or form is it miles better than 2 seasons ago.
The whole atmosphere around the town was brilliant and I doubt will be repeated unless we get to a cup final.
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The Coyle season was miles better than the VK one as we spent most games attacking. Can’t remember much passing it sideways between our centre backs. Sky wasn’t mind controlling the masses as much back then as they are now.
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Some effort for a team who passed it sideways to end up with 25 more points, score more goals and win more games than a non stop attacking team.Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 3:18 pmThe Coyle season was miles better than the VK one as we spent most games attacking. Can’t remember much passing it sideways between our centre backs. Sky wasn’t mind controlling the masses as much back then as they are now.
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Not sure what some of you are watching, 3rd place with a squad still getting to know each others names & injury ravaged & we have dominated games with a majority of young inexperienced players. If we had a finisher or true mobile experienced striker I’m pretty certain we would be top & with a great chance of promotion, as it is at the moment a great chance of promotion. If you don’t have a solid defence & able to defend you might as well forget it.
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No chance it was. The nights in the town centre after the Bristol city game and the play off games live long in the memory.hoosier-daddy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 2:35 pmBut it was repeated - with the Kompany promotion season. The town was packed and buzzing just as it was in the Coyle promotion season, if not more.
It's on YouTube if you want proof.
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Quite a lot of Leeds fans I know would definitely say that the Coyle promotion was the best. In a lot of cases Burnley became their second club and that only stopped when Dyche brought in his anti-football mentality
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I can't tell if this is satire?Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2024 4:23 pmQuite a lot of Leeds fans I know would definitely say that the Coyle promotion was the best. In a lot of cases Burnley became their second club and that only stopped when Dyche brought in his anti-football mentality
Praising Coyle and having a pop at Dyche should be illegal in Burnley.
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