January Transfer Window Rumours

[taio]

He got 1 goal and 1 assist in 15 appearances. The goal was against a dreadful Sheff Utd team when we had already won and the the assist was a screamer by Amdouni.

He just has no football intelligence and lacks basic technical skills. I just don't see much bar some pace. Anything over 15 million and I'd be delighted for us to sell

He was playing in a poor team last season and did well in comparison to some. If he has been as poor throughout his time here as you are making out it's a bit if a contradiction to value him at over £15m. I do think he'll be worth more than that and, of course, he's been linked to other clubs who presumably can see his excellent potential.

[beddie]

Not sure if it's been posted but the BBC are linking Spurs with a 20m move for Trafford.

I assume £20m is the first half payment.

[Goliath]

He assisted Foster for the goal against Spurs (really good play) so you’ve completely made that up.

I looked up the stats and it says 1 assist which is the one I remembered. I'd forgotten all about the Spurs one.
That doesn't change my opinion, he's nowhere near productive enough. Not sure if I can trust the stats now but according to Google he hasn't assisted a single goal this season.

[Goliath]

He was playing in a poor team last season and did well in comparison to some. If he has been as poor throughout his time here as you are making out it's a bit if a contradiction to value him at over £15m. I do think he'll be worth more than that and, of course, he's been linked to other clubs who presumably can see his excellent potential.

He is a young pacey winger that can play on both sides, and his work rate is fantastic. I imagine teams will still pay for the potential, if not we may as well keep him.
He's only 20 so still plenty of room to improve, I jist don't see the potential that many do

[warksclaret]

Maybe a deal involving Tresor ?

Now that would be smart business- getting rid of an asset that never materialised and bringing in someone with real quality

[ralph8]

I would have McBurnie here- think he might sort out our non scoring corners and set piece problem with his aggressive style of play.

[TsarBomba]

I scoffed at Sheffield Utd bringing in Kiefer Moore but he has been terrific for them. McBurnie could offer similar qualities to us, and has been mentioned be a focal point which we’ve badly lacked at times.

[NewClaret]

While i dont like being negative about a player. The difference between Hannibal and Luca i think is that Hannibal appears to be learning and improving. I dont see that level of improvement in Luca. Last year to this year. Doing the same think no end product.

To be fair to the lad, he’s 20. We have players in our U21 side who are older than him. He’s a huge, huge talent.

As is Hannibal at 21(!!) but he has a few loan seasons of professional football under his belt. Koleosho is playing his first full season of professional football after the previous season being curtailed by injury. That probably explains why you observe Hannibal learning more quickly.

Most players don’t reach their full potential till their late 20’s so we have a fair way to go if we want to see Koleosho at his best and I very much doubt it’ll be us that sees it unfortunately.

Where we have gone wrong is relying on him so badly. Maybe we expected Tresor to come back in, or Redmond to be ready sooner, but to rely on such a young player to deliver consistently in his first full season is unfair of the club and fans really.

[NewClaret]

I would have McBurnie here- think he might sort out our non scoring corners and set piece problem with his aggressive style of play.

Me too. I wanted him in summer and would take him now. Only worry would be his off-field antics

Else I’d see having a big target man as a real boost for the team. Can’t see it if he’s happy in Spain though

Benrahma is absolutely snap your hand off for. Again, have to feel this is Nixon creative writing!

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Koleosho -
- Runs at players at speed and dribbles past them
- Causes the opposition to double mark him leaving space for others
- Is young
- Can score
- Has shown he can do this at PL level

All this in a team without defined strikers or those who know what positions to be in to receive the ball from the cross.

Yep let’s get shut

[scamander]

A walking red card? A bit like Ashley Barnes and Joey Barton, you mean? I don’t think McBurnie has a terrible disciplinary record…. He’s an absolute whopper off the pitch though.

As others have said, both would be smart moves. We’re absolutely desperate for a NATURAL right winger though.

The disciplinary record doesn't tell the full story though, he is a player who plays on the edge and that can be a concern. I'm unsure that's what we need at the moment.

[123EasyasBFC]

Burnley express saying there’s not much in the Mcburnie and benrahma links

[Spijed]

Burnley express saying there’s not much in the Mcburnie and benrahma links

I remember back in the day when Chris Boden would say any transfer speculation was "wide of the mark" only for the player to sign the next day

[CalamityClaret]

Koleosho -
- Runs at players at speed and dribbles past them
- Causes the opposition to double mark him leaving space for others
- Is young
- Can score
- Has shown he can do this at PL level

All this in a team without defined strikers or those who know what positions to be in to receive the ball from the cross.

Yep let’s get shut

His work rate at 1st class and there is certainly a player there but on whole he has been woeful this season

[NewClaret]

Burnley express saying there’s not much in the Mcburnie and benrahma links

Not a surprise, but exactly how the club should use local journalists to quash rumours like this. Same in transfer windows when speculation is rife.

Good to see the Burnley Express comment on it.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Koleosho -
- Runs at players at speed and dribbles past them
- Causes the opposition to double mark him leaving space for others
- Is young
- Can score
- Has shown he can do this at PL level

All this in a team without defined strikers or those who know what positions to be in to receive the ball from the cross.

Yep let’s get shut

I think Koleosho is a good talent that likely will have a relatively decent career at the top level (I think he’s actually better suited to premier league football).

However I think some of your points are a bit daft.

He can’t score, if anything his record is really poor.
He currently ranks nearly 200th in the league for chance creation.

I think there’s a fair discussion to say if we can get circa 20m for him and then sign Benrahma for 10m then that would be some cracking business that raises some cash and also strengthens us.

[Pickles]

Koleosho is a good player who'll have a good career, possibly at a level higher than Burnley's.

But in the here and now, much of it is potential which may well be better suited for him and Burnley if it was to be developed elsewhere. That's not a definite, by the way. He has a role to play at Burnley for sure. But just as likely is him taking the next stepping stone, for which Burnley should be paid handsomely for contributing to his development.

[agreenwood]

I reckon we should sell all of our young players for mega money and then go on a Football Manager style spending spree.

We should do that until there’s nobody left to sell and then wonder why we’re no longer contending at the top end of the Championship.

[colne-claret]

Koleosho is a good player who'll have a good career, possibly at a level higher than Burnley's.

But in the here and now, much of it is potential which may well be better suited for him and Burnley if it was to be developed elsewhere. That's not a definite, by the way. He has a role to play at Burnley for sure. But just as likely is him taking the next stepping stone, for which Burnley should be paid handsomely for contributing to his development.

I agree with this. I just think there’s players out there which would massively improve us arguably a great deal cheaper than what we would probably get for him. Be great to see him develop with us but he’s one of our most expensive assets. He should be getting greater returns this season.

[boyyanno]

Fair enough if you think he's the type of player we most need. I struggle to see how anyone can conclude after watching us this season that he fills our main gap. We already have several players who link play well, and I don't think it's unrealistic to think we could sign a striker who can score 10 or so goals in the second half of the season.

The issue is that any striker we sign is going to also need to fit the system. I think we will find it extremely hard to find a centre forward that offers what Parker wants and also gets loads of goals. Someone like a McBurnie (especially at this level) is probably not far off as good as you'll get.

I don't know how regularly they feature but I've racked my brains and the only proven goalscorers I could remotely see being available at this level could be someone like an Adam Armstrong or Brereton Diaz from Saints- don't think they regularly feature/start and have proven pedigree at this level.

I think getting a "goalscorer" in will be more difficult than people think.

[123EasyasBFC]

Mcburnie might not be everyone’s cup of tea but surely we can’t be turning our nose up at him when our current options are foster and jay rod, Flemming isn’t a 9. Mcburnie would offer us something different in games and if his mindset is right he would be one of the better 9s in the league.

[CoolClaret]

Mcburnie might not be everyone’s cup of tea but surely we can’t be turning our nose up at him when our current options are foster and jay rod, Flemming isn’t a 9. Mcburnie would offer us something different in games and if his mindset is right he would be one of the better 9s in the league.

Yup, and he actually plays the position as we need a #9 to play - not to mention there are not too many of them around.

I must say, I am getting the feeling that Luca may not be in SP's long term plans.

[CoolClaret]

Koleosho -
- Runs at players at speed and dribbles past them
- Causes the opposition to double mark him leaving space for others
- Is young
- Can score
- Has shown he can do this at PL level

All this in a team without defined strikers or those who know what positions to be in to receive the ball from the cross.

Yep let’s get shut

Has he really shown that he can do this at a PL level? He scored 1 goal and I believe, poorly managed (possibly even leading to his injury).

He is young and can get better, that is for sure.

[bfcmik]

Luca is £40 m or we keep him.We sold Odebert too soon and too cheap and need to keep our top players

It's not like we had the option to not sell. Apparently his agent was on the phone to the club demanding a transfer before we fans had even left the ground after the Tottenham defeat that officially relegated us.

[equinox]

Mcburnie might not be everyone’s cup of tea but surely we can’t be turning our nose up at him when our current options are foster and jay rod, Flemming isn’t a 9. Mcburnie would offer us something different in games and if his mindset is right he would be one of the better 9s in the league.

I couldn't warm to McBurnie, it just wouldn't sit right, it would be like watching the match with Dogsh!t on your trainers and all up your jeans.

[123EasyasBFC]

Yup, and he actually plays the position as we need a #9 to play - not to mention there are not too many of them around.

I must say, I am getting the feeling that Luca may not be in SP's long term plans.

There certainly aren’t many number 9s available on loan or relatively cheap that have Mcburnies experience.

Luca is a tough one, really he’s still only about 30 games into his professional career and fans are expecting him to tear teams apart. His technical ability isn’t at odoberts level for his age. I still think Luca will have a key part to play this season but in the summer if a bid of 30m plus comes in then we’d be silly to not take it

[123EasyasBFC]

I couldn't warm to McBurnie, it just wouldn't sit right, it would be like watching the match with Dogsh!t on your trainers and all up your jeans.

Every Burnley fan hated Joey Barton till he signed for us.

Mcburnie got done for drink driving, so did Ashley Barnes but everyone still loves him

[equinox]

Every Burnley fan hated Joey Barton till he signed for us.

Mcburnie got done for drink driving, so did Ashley Barnes but everyone still loves him

I didn't hate Barton and I don't still love Ashley Barnes.

[123EasyasBFC]

I didn't hate Barton and I don't still love Ashley Barnes.

You know the point I am making

[Stonehouse]

Every Burnley fan hated Joey Barton till he signed for us.

Mcburnie got done for drink driving, so did Ashley Barnes but everyone still loves him

If you see my previous post then McBurnie is a bit more than just a driver that’s been over the limit.

[CoolClaret]

There certainly aren’t many number 9s available on loan or relatively cheap that have Mcburnies experience.

Luca is a tough one, really he’s still only about 30 games into his professional career and fans are expecting him to tear teams apart. His technical ability isn’t at odoberts level for his age. I still think Luca will have a key part to play this season but in the summer if a bid of 30m plus comes in then we’d be silly to not take it

I agree.

I think his lack of proper footballing education/pedigree shows, really. He should have been allowed to develop more for me before being thrust into starting every week, imo.

A loan period at a lower level would have done him wonders, or longer training with the first team and slowly bedded in, similar to what Dyche did with McNeil.

[123EasyasBFC]

I agree.

I think his lack of proper footballing education/pedigree shows, really. He should have been allowed to develop more for me before being thrust into starting every week, imo.

A loan period at a lower level would have done him wonders, or longer training with the first team and slowly bedded in, similar to what Dyche did with McNeil.

Parker made the right call taking him out the 11 yesterday for Hannibal.

My issue is I’m not sure I trust Parker to realise brownhill has to play higher the rest of the season and doesn’t move him back next to Cullen. If Parker doesn’t trust Laurent every game then he needs to give Massengo or Hannibal minutes next to Cullen or go out and bring someone in

[Walt]

I agree with the views are we really going to be able to do much better than Mcburnie. He's physical and good at bringing other players into it, a total berk off the pitch as already discussed.

Would he be my ideal choice, no. What other realistic options will there be. Ferguson is unlikely to be dropping down a league. Guiu would be an amazing loan and is potentially available as Maresca confirmed this week. Cant see that happening either though as there's likely to be PL options for him too.

I think a loan is probably the best option for a striker. Then look for a better long term solution in the summer.

[CrosspoolClarets]

What we can say is that the names in the frame are exactly the types we should be aiming for, we just have to ensure we don’t end up like 18 months ago where we aimed too big and couldn’t get them over the line (Bakayoko, Lukebakio, Palmer etc). I have no doubt kids like Luca and Wilson were meant to be understudies last season. Kompany thought he could smile and these ex City or Belgian players would come running to him, reality was somewhat different.

As for Koleosho, he offers us so much, he makes the opposition sit back, when we go ahead or are away from home that comes into its own, he isn’t the first winger to struggle to create against a packed defence but he offers so much tactically apart from that. Nonsense for us as fans not to be supporting a 20 year old kid.

[jojomk1]

I think a loan is probably the best option for a striker. Then look for a better long term solution in the summer.

Exactly
Given our current form promotion is on the cards but not certain
Hence, the type of player we would need in the Prem is highly unlikely to be available this Jan as a permanent signing

[Walt]

I've been a bit disappointed with Koleosho this season.

However, as some have alluded to he is very young and inexperienced, he needs time and patience. Both the club and Koleosho would be foolish to sell/want to leave.

He's got potential to improve a lot. From his perspective he needs to think about all the other young players who have left to bigger clubs too soon and been swallowed up. He's currently getting regular game time and in a year or 2, if he applies himself (seen no reason to say why he wouldn't) could get a good move and possibly be ready to do so.

There's also the fact Pace may be tempted. IF a 20-30m offer comes would he turn that down. I don't think he would.

[Taffy on the wing]

Luca is £40 m or we keep him.We sold Odebert too soon and too cheap and need to keep our top players

Odobert is twice the player.

[123EasyasBFC]

Other than Oliver Sonne that seems a done deal, this Jan I would like to see us go for

Morgan Whittaker
Phillip billing
Chuba akpom
Charlie Taylor

Whilst letting sambo, Delcroix, Tresor, hountonji leave

[Stonehouse]

Other than Oliver Sonne that seems a done deal, this Jan I would like to see us go for

Morgan Whittaker
Phillip billing
Chuba akpom
Charlie Taylor

Whilst letting sambo, Delcroix, Tresor, hountonji leave

The Charlie Taylor that can’t get in the Southampton team?

[123EasyasBFC]

The Charlie Taylor that can’t get in the Southampton team?

Southampton team in the premier league who have been shocking, maybe they should be playing someone with Taylor’s experience.

Taylor would be the best left back in the championship

[jojomk1]

The Charlie Taylor that can’t get in the Southampton team?

He would walk into our side at the mo
Unfortunately now 31 and on Prem wages

[Damo]

I didn't hate Barton and I don't still love Ashley Barnes.

He did say "Burnley fans" to be fair

[Newcastleclaret93]

Bit of a weird one but I saw a link online to a player called David Mella for 7m but it looks like it was deleted almost immediately.

Wonder if there’s anything in it

[Ric_C]

Bit of a weird one but I saw a link online to a player called David Mella for 7m but it looks like it was deleted almost immediately.

Wonder if there’s anything in it

I've heard he keeps you on your toes

[123EasyasBFC]

Bit of a weird one but I saw a link online to a player called David Mella for 7m but it looks like it was deleted almost immediately.

Wonder if there’s anything in it

On X?

A quick search of his name and it says he has a 20m release clause that goes up to 30m if they are promoted. Not sure there will be anything in that one.

You should of copied the post before it was deleted

[NL Claret]

Koleosho another young lad finding his way in the game, doesn’t warrant the criticism he gets on here.

Taylor, he only got a game last season as Kompany’s database couldn’t find a LB, no surprise he’s not getting a game at Soton.

Not a rumour however I see that Louie Barry will be recalled by Villa from Stockport, can assume that Villa want him playing in the Championship, 14 goals this season .

[Newcastleclaret93]

On X?

A quick search of his name and it says he has a 20m release clause that goes up to 30m if they are promoted. Not sure there will be anything in that one.

You should of copied the post before it was deleted

Didn’t even get chance before it was deleted

[Newcastleclaret93]

Koleosho another young lad finding his way in the game, doesn’t warrant the criticism he gets on here.

Taylor, he only got a game last season as Kompany’s database couldn’t find a LB, no surprise he’s not getting a game at Soton.

Not a rumour however I see that Louie Barry will be recalled by Villa from Stockport, can assume that Villa want him playing in the Championship, 14 goals this season .

That Barry one is certainly an interesting one. Would Parker give him a chance though?

[123EasyasBFC]

Louie Barry looks a talent but another left sided player, our 3 current wingers favour the left, Hannibal had his best game from the left. Ramsey played his best football at Boro in the championship from the left.

We need another right wing option, unless sonne is coming to play right wing to start with

[Stonehouse]

Louie Barry looks a talent but another left sided player, our 3 current wingers favour the left, Hannibal had his best game from the left. Ramsey played his best football at Boro in the championship from the left.

We need another right wing option, unless sonne is coming to play right wing to start with

I thought Hannibal played in the right on Saturday when he played in Browhill.