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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:59 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:55 pm
I still think the loan with obligation/option on Whittaker might be on the table this Jan
Do you mean the treatment table? ;)

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:01 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:24 pm
We definitely do play it in behind - just a lot of the teams we've played haven't given us that space... every team that has done, we have put the ball in behind.
To the striker?

I’m struggling to remember a single time?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:02 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:57 pm
I really hope not, he’s been really poor this season.
We can’t right him off based on this season, loads of different factors at Plymouth this season, we could be the move he needs.

We signed heaton, pope and JBG from relegated clubs and they turned out well

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Juan Tanamera » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:02 pm

Can someone tell me who this prolific striker might be and how much he will cost in a historically notorious, difficult January window?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by billyhamilton82 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:03 pm

Hountondji is taking a space on the bench and its obvious SP doesn't trust him.

We should send to Dundee until the end of the season as we already have an agreement with them.

Scottish Premier is the perfect level for him to learn same as Egan Riley, Mellon etc.

Then bring in a proven centre forward at this level for the rest of the season on loan who will make an impact and improve us.

Win promotion then reassess.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:03 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:59 pm
Do you mean the treatment table? ;)
He was back in the starting 11 Boxing Day

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:03 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:01 pm
To the striker?

I’m struggling to remember a single time?
You didn't specify to the striker! No, in this system, the striker hasn't been stretching the play.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:03 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:57 pm
I think it was a different scenario. Back then we had Jay and Ash (both with contracts running out in 6 months) and we were also pretty much nailed on for promotion so the club could hedge there bets.

Right now we have already committed a fair sum of money for the summer window. As a result my own conclusion is money is tighter this season and they already have a lot of resources in that position.
What do you mean exactly by ' a lot of resources'?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:05 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:57 pm
I really hope not, he’s been really poor this season.
Think we may have turned his head a bit, and then he's been 'managed' by Rooney... hardly conducive to a succesful season.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:06 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:03 pm
What do you mean exactly by ' a lot of resources'?
4 strikers in first team squad for one position.

With CB it’s the best resourced spot in the squad

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:06 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:30 pm
the 7 player "exodus" doesn't include a prolific centre-forward, though. The goals were scored, and shared, by a stronger team against weaker opposition.
Weaker opposition like recently relegated Luton?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:08 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:05 pm
Think we may have turned his head a bit, and then he's been 'managed' by Rooney... hardly conducive to a succesful season.
If I’m honest I’ve watched him a fair few times this season and I don’t think there’s a player there that improves us.

I think whoever we sign in that wide role has got to be an improvement on what we have.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:08 pm
If I’m honest I’ve watched him a fair few times this season and I don’t think there’s a player there that improves us.

I think whoever we sign in that wide role has got to be an improvement on what we have.
I actually think Whittaker has more attributes to be successful in the premier league than jack Clarke for example, the other winger from the champ that excelled last season and got a move to prem.

I really think Whittaker could be similar to Semenyo and Tavernier at Bournemouth that with good coaching can be successful in the prem

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:14 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:06 pm
Weaker opposition like recently relegated Luton?

Yes, on the day, nowhere near as good as us despite their Premier league position .
Evidenced by their continued poor form until very recently this season.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Sapperclaret73 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:16 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:53 pm
Foster has scored 2 goals in 20 at this level , please explain how you come to your conclusion?
Again only my opinion but he score 5 in 24 games in a shocking team last season. He’s never really got going but there’s been glimpses of a player. Just look at his driving runs v luton for the 4th goal.

He can be a real handful. I don’t have the stats or the tactical explanation its just my opinion. Happy to be proven wrong but he can get us 10 plus goals by the end of the season.

Get him starting tomorrow.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:19 pm

Sapperclaret73 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:16 pm
Again only my opinion but he score 5 in 24 games in a shocking team last season. He’s never really got going but there’s been glimpses of a player. Just look at his driving runs v luton for the 4th goal.

He can be a real handful. I don’t have the stats or the tactical explanation its just my opinion. Happy to be proven wrong but he can get us 10 plus goals by the end of the season.

Get him starting tomorrow.
Foster has all the attributes on paper to be a totally dominant striker in the championship and good in the prem but he’s just not been consistent yet.

I agree tomorrow should be the same back 5 with Cullen in front then a front 5 of Anthony brownhill Flemming Sarmiento foster

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:19 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:11 pm
I actually think Whittaker has more attributes to be successful in the premier league than jack Clarke for example, the other winger from the champ that excelled last season and got a move to prem.

I really think Whittaker could be similar to Semenyo and Tavernier at Bournemouth that with good coaching can be successful in the prem
Potentially but I think the main reason Semenyo and tavernier have been a success is there’s physicality and pace (in Semenyos case).

I’m not sure Whittaker has either.

I think there’s better options out there

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:23 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:08 pm
If I’m honest I’ve watched him a fair few times this season and I don’t think there’s a player there that improves us.

I think whoever we sign in that wide role has got to be an improvement on what we have.
Fair enough. I like his size for a winger and his eye for a goal but if there's better out there then bring it on!

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Sapperclaret73 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:33 pm

Antlyone know the fee plymouth would want? They look doomed. Surely sell now for a better fee.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:40 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:23 pm
Fair enough. I like his size for a winger and his eye for a goal but if there's better out there then bring it on!
If we were going for someone like Whittaker (from the championship) I would much prefer we went for one of:

Sargent at Norwich, he’s 24 can play anywhere along the front three and I personally think he’s got the physicality it make in the prem.

Goodrham at Oxford, 21 and his first season at this level but I think he would fit Parker’s system really well. He gets up and down the pitch to help support the defence and he’s also got a fantastic cross on him. I watched there game the other day and he was pinging in Trippier esque crosses.

Ronald at Swansea, 23 and his first season in this league but he’s another that’s taken to it really well. He’s another that I think just has something a little bit extra to Whittaker that would help with the step up.

I know we probably won’t be looking at the championship for signings (mainly due to the cost involved) but I think they are the most likely to be a success straight away.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:52 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:40 pm
If we were going for someone like Whittaker (from the championship) I would much prefer we went for one of:

Sargent at Norwich, he’s 24 can play anywhere along the front three and I personally think he’s got the physicality it make in the prem.

Goodrham at Oxford, 21 and his first season at this level but I think he would fit Parker’s system really well. He gets up and down the pitch to help support the defence and he’s also got a fantastic cross on him. I watched there game the other day and he was pinging in Trippier esque crosses.

Ronald at Swansea, 23 and his first season in this league but he’s another that’s taken to it really well. He’s another that I think just has something a little bit extra to Whittaker that would help with the step up.

I know we probably won’t be looking at the championship for signings (mainly due to the cost involved) but I think they are the most likely to be a success straight away.
Sargent would be my first signing if we got promoted, however his injury record isn’t great

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:54 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:52 pm
Sargent would be my first signing if we got promoted, however his injury record isn’t great
I had a look into his injury record apparantly he’s actually only missed 22 games in three seasons.

6 missed apps due to getting back late from
International leave (aka Sarmiento)

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:02 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:54 pm
I had a look into his injury record apparantly he’s actually only missed 22 games in three seasons.

6 missed apps due to getting back late from
International leave (aka Sarmiento)
Surely that can’t be right, he’s missed 12 games since November

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:14 pm

I don't rate Whittaker one bit, his finishing is ok, his passing is awful and I've never been impressed by his work rate - given I thought Liam Delap was rubbish that is a sure fire sign we should sign him !

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:14 pm
I don't rate Whittaker one bit, his finishing is ok, his passing is awful and I've never been impressed by his work rate - given I thought Liam Delap was rubbish that is a sure fire sign we should sign him !
You won’t be the only one who thought that about Delap, couldn’t believe Ipswich splashed 20m on him but now it looks like a bargain.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:56 pm

Sapperclaret73 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:33 pm
Antlyone know the fee plymouth would want? They look doomed. Surely sell now for a better fee.
I've heard £12million, don't know how accurate it is.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:11 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:03 pm
Hountondji is taking a space on the bench and its obvious SP doesn't trust him.

We should send to Dundee until the end of the season as we already have an agreement with them.

Scottish Premier is the perfect level for him to learn same as Egan Riley, Mellon etc.

Then bring in a proven centre forward at this level for the rest of the season on loan who will make an impact and improve us.

Win promotion then reassess.

You make it all sound really easy, Billy.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Silkyskills1 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:22 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:06 pm
4 strikers in first team squad for one position.

With CB it’s the best resourced spot in the squad
And their record in front of goal? It's not numbers we need it's quality.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Sapperclaret73 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:25 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 9:56 pm
I've heard £12million, don't know how accurate it is.
No chance they get anywhere near that for him.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:28 pm

Sapperclaret73 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:25 pm
No chance they get anywhere near that for him.
TBH, if they re-employ Schumacher I doubt they'll sell Whittaker.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:35 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:22 pm
And their record in front of goal? It's not numbers we need it's quality.
With our creativity stats I think Haaland would struggle at the moment.

Given currently our most creative player is Josh Laurent with 4 big chances created (he currently ranks 66th in the league) after that we don’t have another player in the top 100 for creativity. (Worth noting that Vitinho has created more big chances this season than Sarmiento, Koleosho and Flemming, I think that stat shows just how few chances we are creating for our strikers).

I think we have goals up top in Flemming and Foster. We are just lacking someone genuine spark.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:40 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:35 pm
With our creativity stats I think Haaland would struggle at the moment.

Given currently our most creative player is Josh Laurent with 4 big chances created (he currently ranks 66th in the league) after that we don’t have another player in the top 100 for creativity. (Worth noting that Vitinho has created more big chances this season than Sarmiento, Koleosho and Flemming, I think that stat shows just how few chances we are creating for our strikers).

I think we have goals up top in Flemming and Foster. We are just lacking someone genuine spark.
We have played far too cautious in games where teams sit deep. Derby at home for example didn’t need a midfield of Cullen Laurent and brownhill with Sarmiento on the left playing to central

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:47 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:40 pm
We have played far too cautious in games where teams sit deep. Derby at home for example didn’t need a midfield of Cullen Laurent and brownhill with Sarmiento on the left playing to central
Totally agree, but ultimately if we want our forwards to be more prolific then chances are creation has to dramatically improve.

A striker isn’t going to solve that

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 10:47 pm
Totally agree, but ultimately if we want our forwards to be more prolific then chances are creation has to dramatically improve.

A striker isn’t going to solve that
Tomorrow having Flemming and brownhill behind Foster with two proper wingers against a team who are going to sit in a 5-4-1 will be a test to see what we can create. Having more attack minded players might help koleosho to, relive some pressure

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:04 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:00 pm
Tomorrow having Flemming and brownhill behind Foster with two proper wingers against a team who are going to sit in a 5-4-1 will be a test to see what we can create. Having more attack minded players might help koleosho to, relive some pressure
Il be amazed if he starts Flemming and Brownhill behind Foster

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Murger » Tue Dec 31, 2024 11:39 pm

I’ve seen Seargent at Norwich mentioned a few times. Unless I’m unlucky in the games I’m watching, he’s absolute gash.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by ISpeds00 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:44 am

id take callum wilson at newcastle
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:10 am

ISpeds00 wrote:
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id take callum wilson at newcastle
Wouldn't we all

Then I woke up from the dream ;)
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:27 am

No point bringing in somebody like Callum Wilson to be on the treatment table for 5 months, even if it were realistic.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 9:29 am

We should be in prime position for a Quality striker loan as it’s a situation where it could benefit both parties
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by warksclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:07 am

ISpeds00 wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 12:44 am
id take callum wilson at newcastle
Sorry but our treatment tables are all taken-he would have to be put in the corridors until a slot becomes available
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Blyclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:21 am

I think if we can shift Tresor Redmond Delecroix and Egdal that leaves room for some incomings.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:24 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 8:03 pm
You didn't specify to the striker! No, in this system, the striker hasn't been stretching the play.
I’d said in my post that we only seem to play balls in behind to the wide players if we’ve overloaded on one side, drawn them across and created space for the opposite wide player. CJ sometimes plays diags to the winger but those balls are to feet.

I was responding to a post saying if we had a fast striker we could play them in behind, which I agreed with, but we never play that pass at the moment despite many runs per game from the advanced midfielders and striker. It seems a system thing so I can’t really see a faster striker changing that.

Typically we don’t play any passes in to space at all. It kills me when a pass in to space is on and we play it to feet, often causing the winger to stop or slow his run. I actually don’t get it because City and other teams do the exact same thing so it must be by design but I don’t see what it achieves to always play behind the defence.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2025 8:06 pm

No links but todays game showed that we have to be in the market for a creative number 10, a winger and a striker in this window.

We can’t rely on benson and Ramsey for months yet and Tresor doesn’t exist.

Sarmiento is a player with quality but isn’t ever going to be the main creator
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:01 pm

What is the point in buying another striker when this manager doesn't know how to play to one

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Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:04 pm

A player who may be gathering interest is Mike Biereth who joined Sturm Graz from Arsenal in the summer for around £4m. Looks like he has the potential to be a real handful for defenders . Centre forward who had a loan spell at Motherwell. Not suggesting we could attract him but I’d definitely take this lad

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Walt » Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:48 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 10:04 pm
A player who may be gathering interest is Mike Biereth who joined Sturm Graz from Arsenal in the summer for around £4m. Looks like he has the potential to be a real handful for defenders . Centre forward who had a loan spell at Motherwell. Not suggesting we could attract him but I’d definitely take this lad
Do you mean interest from us, or in general?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Big Vinny K » Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:00 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:24 am
I’d said in my post that we only seem to play balls in behind to the wide players if we’ve overloaded on one side, drawn them across and created space for the opposite wide player. CJ sometimes plays diags to the winger but those balls are to feet.

I was responding to a post saying if we had a fast striker we could play them in behind, which I agreed with, but we never play that pass at the moment despite many runs per game from the advanced midfielders and striker. It seems a system thing so I can’t really see a faster striker changing that.

Typically we don’t play any passes in to space at all. It kills me when a pass in to space is on and we play it to feet, often causing the winger to stop or slow his run. I actually don’t get it because City and other teams do the exact same thing so it must be by design but I don’t see what it achieves to always play behind the defence.
Yet in the first half today we played a great ball over the top for a central striker to run on to.
And E-R very often plays his long cross field balls into space for our wingers to run on to.

I do often think you are watching a completely different game to me.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:01 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2024 7:55 pm
I still think the loan with obligation/option on Whittaker might be on the table this Jan
Assist for Whittaker today at home to Bristol C.

Lovely chipped cross to the back post after beating the FB on the outside.

Would be nice to see our wingers do similar instead of continually coming inside.

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