Burnley vs Stoke - Matchday thread

[Commy]

Why are you watching them?

Got more than one match on

[fatboy47]

I still think we'll win,

Really...?

[Foshiznik]

Anthony has possibly had his worse performance so far. Need more pace in our play.

[expoultryboy]

They should of been on from the start Vincent .

[warksclaret]

This is a very poor first half
I don’t think the Stoke keeper has had a shot to save and our shooting is very poor
We need the energy of Hannibal asap and the strength of Foster now and not on the 89th minute

[Kgun5]

I promise it wasn’t always this negative in the ground. I think we were spoilt under Kompany in his first season and now anything less than that (I.e 99.9% of our history) is now not good enough and doesn’t deserve backing from the stands unfortunately.

The price of success, I suppose. I started following in 2009, so I've gotten to see mostly the cream. Its easy to get spoilt.

[CoolClaret]

We seem to look a bit lethargic when Hannibal isn't playing.

For me, Luca would be better hugging the touchline and getting to the byline for cutbacks instead of trying to cut infield.

[Kgun5]

Really...?

Really.

[Stacks]

Jay over Foster is just stupid.

Jay over Hou. Is dumb too

[Commy]

We have been too slow all season against the teams that put everyone behind the ball. Up the tempo and move them round and we will find spaces. It isn't rocket science.

[RVclaret]

Leeds with 66% possession and just 2 shots, facing a similar issue to us so far. We’ve got some good options on the bench here and I’d like to see Flemming and Foster introduced before too long.

[superdimitri]

Team talk at half time needs to be about basics.
Do the basics right.
Show composure.
Make better decisions.

Save the worldies for when we are 2 or 3 up.

[me01jh]

How high is Brownhill playing? My worry with the changes to the lineup was whether or not it would nullify his press and attacking presence... I assume its Sarmiento in the 10 with two holders?

[louieollie]

I think this game shows that the last 3 or so games is the direction we need to keep going in with regards starting 11 and that maybe just maybe the likes of Koleosho/Jay Rod and Pires are way below what's needed. Shining lights so far imho are Sarmiento/Egan-Riley............looks to me like Brownhill would have benefited from a rest today too with Saturday in mind.

[rosswallacefreekick]

Think we could do with bringing Brownhill into the game more… seems like him and Jay have hardly touched the ball!

[Vincent'sCap]

I know Koleosho is only a kid but he is really poor,always cuts inside and passes it back zero end product game after game

[jojomk1]

Jay over Foster is just stupid.

Jay over Hou. Is dumb too

Doesn't make much difference as Jay has hardly had a touch of the ball

Which happens to whoever plays a lonely role up front in most games

[FCBurnley]

Jay non existent. Brownhill playing deeper is less effective. Koleosho wasteful. Piers not good enough

Need Foster or Flemming fir Jay
Humph for Pires
Hannibal for Koleosho with Anthony moving to right
That will give us a chance. Get em on now and let the Rovers game sort itself out

[burnley007]

2 steps forward
2 steps back.

Not great this is it?

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

Time for Foster to start earning his corn, get him on the pitch!

[Foshiznik]

Just watching the highlights and some nice moves ended by rubbish long distance shots. Need to be making better decisions and taking higher percetage shots.

Also how was Roberts effort that deflected over the bar not count as on target?

[boatshed bill]

Some of you lot don't know how lucky you are.


I'm listening to this on Clarets+

[Burnley Ace]

I know Koleosho is only a kid but he is really poor,always cuts inside and passes it back zero end product game after game

He’s a latter day Winston White!!!

[jojomk1]

How high is Brownhill playing? My worry with the changes to the lineup was whether or not it would nullify his press and attacking presence... I assume its Sarmiento in the 10 with two holders?

Brownhill seems to be playing more as a central midfielder with Sarimento further up

Problem is he is dropping back or wide to try and get hold of the ball with Jay left totally exposed at the top

[LincsWoldsClaret]

Roberts is creating most of our chances - something needs to change

[Safron]

We have been too slow all season against the teams that put everyone behind the ball. Up the tempo and move them round and we will find spaces. It isn't rocket science.

Stoke aren't putting everyone behind the ball, we are allowing them to get back behind the ball by constantly playing negative sideways and backwards for no reason when an attack is on but ignored

[Stonehouse]

So much entitlement in the stands nowadays. Moaning and groaning and negative atmospheres literally every game this season. No surprise our away form is better when we drag the players down every home game

Not the reason why we’re better away from home is because the home team tends to attack more ,and having seeing a cracking display against Sheff Utd fans would have expected a decent performance today ,but we’ve gone back to like we were playing 5 or 6 weeks ago.The commentators on Sky are pretty neutral and they’re telling it as it is -negative predictable and boring.
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[Stacks]

Hope Parker doesn’t wait too long

60’

Foster - Jay
Flemming - Kolo

Put Sarmiento on wing.

[Devils_Advocate]

Frustrating first half despite playing some good football at times.

One of challenges this squad has is that IMO Brownhill, Sarmiento, Flemming and Hannibal all play their best football behind the striker (in different ways) but we can only play one of them in that position so we either have to play the others out of position or leave them out.

Id look to get Foster on quickly to try and make something happen and see where we are around 65 mins and if we've not scored then get Flemming alongside him

[burnleymik]

Sounds like someone just got done over with the half time game.... Crowd not happy.

[gtclaret]

This is the performance I expected when I saw the line up.Stoke have defended with ease without the need for any game management tactics.I think this will come in the second half.If change is not made at h/t I can't see us scoring,I just hope Stoke don't nick one

[JimmyRobbo]

Who are the fans booing?

[burnleymik]

As for the footy, we need changes. Struggling to impact this game at the moment. Stoke set up well, but we are playing into it again.

[RVclaret]

Frustrating first half despite playing some good football at times.

One of challenges this squad has is that IMO Brownhill, Sarmiento, Flemming and Hannibal all play their best football behind the striker (in different ways) but we can only play one of them in that position so we either have to play the others out of position or leave them out.

Id look to get Foster on quickly to try and make something happen and see where we are around 65 mins and if we've not scored then get Flemming alongside him

Think Sarmiento can be just as effective coming in from wide to be honest but yeah agree in general. I’d be putting Sarmiento on the left, Anthony right and Flemming with Foster through the middle.

[Quickenthetempo]

I promise it wasn’t always this negative in the ground. I think we were spoilt under Kompany in his first season and now anything less than that (I.e 99.9% of our history) is now not good enough and doesn’t deserve backing from the stands unfortunately.

We haven't always been good in the 37 years I have been watching Burnley, but we have always tried to win and be creative/work the opposition keeper.

This brand of football, despite having a huge financial advantage over everyone in the division is shockingly bad.
The average first on target for us this season will be something like 66 minutes. It's pathetic.

That's why the fans are like they are.

[me01jh]

Brownhill seems to be playing more as a central midfielder with Sarimento further up

Problem is he is dropping back or wide to try and get hold of the ball with Jay left totally exposed at the top

This is my only concern with Parker... we don't have the right kind of players for 2 holding midfielders... Laurent is not good enough on the ball, Brownhill is nullified... Perhaps Hanibal can play in that position. As mentioned by many, might be worth letting the handbrake off and playing two tens in either Brownhill & Sarmiento or Brownhill & Flemming.

[cockneyclaret]

Who are the fans booing?

Watching it on TV puzzled too

[Bosscat]

Who are the fans booing?

Lad got the ball in the red circle but didn't get the £2k prize so fans booing the Centerspot game

[JimmyRobbo]

Watching it on TV puzzled too

Assume it's to do with the HT entertainment.

[FCBurnley]

Thank god we have a good defence

[JimmyRobbo]

Lad got the ball in the red circle but didn't get the £2k prize so fans booing the Centerspot game

Thank you.

Love our sense of fair spirit.

[Dyched]

Not every season is going to be like Kompany’s first. Moaning at the players from the stands at 0-0 isn’t going to improve our chances of winning.

There’s a difference in wanting a shot or 2 on target to demanding a VK season.

[JimmyRobbo]

How long do you let play continue? Must be near the limit bit I agree with the ref.

[rosswallacefreekick]

We’re doing the job of their defence for them! Passing it out to midfield from their box when we’re loaded with players up there is madness.

[JimmyRobbo]

Stoke come out the stronger.

[Commy]

Stoke come out the stronger.

They probably decided they had nothing to worry about.

[burnleymik]

Stoke all over us. Big save Trafford.

We need changes, badly.

[Taffy on the wing]

Stoke fancying their chances now!

[Newcastleclaret93]

I don’t think I have ever seen a player drop off as much as Koleosho has.

He’s genuinely dreadful now

[Jimmymaccer]

Stoke started the brighter this half…..