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Koleosho

Post by colne-claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:35 pm

Anyone rekon we got big money bids for him in January? I certainly hope so. Zero end product.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:36 pm

No.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:37 pm

If anyone’s watched him recently then no. Of course he’s got the tools to be a good player but he’s struggling as of late.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:38 pm

He has work to do but his potential is huge

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Re: Koleosho

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:40 pm

I don’t actually think there’s the potential there in koleosho that some people think. He didn’t show much technique in the prem and hasn’t this season. He’s not like Odobert who could cut in and bend a shot in
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Re: Koleosho

Post by Milltown1882 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:40 pm

Can probably take the 0 off the 40 Wolves offered.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:41 pm

He can certainly dribble the ball but we and a team need to work out how to isolate him 1 v 1 and give him the opportunity .

At the moment he looks like another Dan James
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Re: Koleosho

Post by equinox » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:42 pm

Balloon with a Dog
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Re: Koleosho

Post by warksclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:42 pm

He hit one great pass in the first half, and all he did most of the game was run into too many defenders. Does he think he can beat the entire defence. I have to say for someone who has played all season , only his Leeds goal stands out. For me at best he is now an impact sub

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:43 pm

Sell! (Accept the first bid, whatever it is!)
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Re: Koleosho

Post by bumba » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:44 pm

We're now seeing why he was so cheap, zero end product which is now matched with zero confidence

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:44 pm

Milltown1882 wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:40 pm
Can probably take the 0 off the 40 Wolves offered.
I think they offered 15. We wanted 40 wasn’t it?

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Re: Koleosho

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:54 pm

Quite simply the most overrated player we have right now and possibly ever!
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Re: Koleosho

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:55 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:54 pm
Quite simply the most overrated player we have right now and possibly ever!
Possibly ever ?

Come on now

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:55 pm

Pace is probably massively regretting not cashing in last summer.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:56 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:55 pm
Possibly ever ?

Come on now
Who was more overrated?

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Mattster » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:56 pm

Thought he played well today and was the wrong player to take off.

Don't understand how Parker has managed to knock £20m+ off his value by constantly favouring a loan player and it's Koleosho that gets the stick.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:57 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:56 pm
Who was more overrated?
Millions

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Spijed » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:57 pm

bumba wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:44 pm
We're now seeing why he was so cheap, zero end product which is now matched with zero confidence
How much did Odebert cost?

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Re: Koleosho

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:58 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:57 pm
Millions
Like whom?

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:59 pm

Since Leeds he’s gone backwards

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Re: Koleosho

Post by bumba » Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:59 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:57 pm
How much did Odebert cost?
Quoted at about £10 million wasn't it?

More to the point what's that actually got to do with Koleosho?

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:00 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:56 pm
Thought he played well today and was the wrong player to take off.

Don't understand how Parker has managed to knock £20m+ off his value by constantly favouring a loan player and it's Koleosho that gets the stick.
Mattster there’s no defending Koleosho he’s been dreadful this season.

He offers this side nothing

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Re: Koleosho

Post by RVclaret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:01 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:56 pm
Thought he played well today and was the wrong player to take off.

Don't understand how Parker has managed to knock £20m+ off his value by constantly favouring a loan player and it's Koleosho that gets the stick.
Anthony has one of the more consistent, as well as productive, performers this season from an attacking perspective (the data backs that up). Koleosho gets stick because his final action is generally not good enough and does stupid stuff like running into players after already beating 2.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:03 pm

Whilst I don't rate him much I don't think we play to his strengths at all. I think Roberts doesn't like giving him the ball much either because he knows he'll likely give it away. I'd sell him tbh

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Re: Koleosho

Post by ISpeds00 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:05 pm

he tries to do too much - a direct run at a player is needed he has the pace

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Re: Koleosho

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:03 pm
Whilst I don't rate him much I don't think we play to his strengths at all. I think Roberts doesn't like giving him the ball much either because he knows he'll likely give it away. I'd sell him tbh
I wish I knew what his strengths were.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by The Shire Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:58 pm
Like whom?
Luca is 21 and has massive potential … absolutley nowhere near his peak - lots to learn but certainly not over rated… he’s making mistakes but that age


More over rated off the top of my head ?

Joe Heart
Bersart Berisha
Wout
Darko

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Mattster » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:01 pm
Anthony has one of the more consistent, as well as productive, performers this season from an attacking perspective (the data backs that up). Koleosho gets stick because his final action is generally not good enough and does stupid stuff like running into players after already beating 2.
Anthony has been given opportunity after opportunity to build that consistency at the expense of Koleosho.

Today is a prime example, in a rotated side to rest players Anthony gets the start on his favoured wing and is afforded the full 90 whilst Koleosho is the first hooked.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:08 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm
Anthony has been given opportunity after opportunity to build that consistency at the expense of Koleosho.

Today is a prime example, in a rotated side to rest players Anthony gets the start on his favoured wing and is afforded the full 90 whilst Koleosho is the first hooked.
Koleosho has had ample opportunities on his so called favourite left side in games this season and hasn’t been good enough.

I don’t understand starting Anthony on the left today when he has played his best football from the right
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Re: Koleosho

Post by dvalley69 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:08 pm

He needs to be more aware of what's going on at the time of receiving the ball rather than deciding what he's gonna do with it at the time of receiving it imo. 99% of of his decision making is wrong and leads us to losing possession, unless he just passes it backwards, and that to me is because his reaction to things is at the time of getting the ball. Ultimately, it's what someone else mentioned previously: he was spotted for his pace and has been taught how to play football physcially, but he's got no football brain and it shows, especially in the difficult role of being part of the creative side in a team. Technically, he's very decent.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:09 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm
Luca is 21 and has massive potential … absolutley nowhere near his peak - lots to learn but certainly not over rated… he’s making mistakes but that age


More over rated off the top of my head ?

Joe Heart
Bersart Berisha
Wout
Darko
Hart was past his best when he came here, Berisha we hardly saw to form an opinion, Weghorst didn't want to be here and no one ever rated Darko in the first place... So try again.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Goliath » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:11 pm

He's a technically dreadful player. The amount of times he takes a bad first touch then runs into trouble chasing after it is unbelievable for a player at this level.

It's getting to the point where I'd be surprised if he ends up having a good career even at this level. He's technically miles off it.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:11 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm
Anthony has been given opportunity after opportunity to build that consistency at the expense of Koleosho.

Today is a prime example, in a rotated side to rest players Anthony gets the start on his favoured wing and is afforded the full 90 whilst Koleosho is the first hooked.
It’s shown this season it doesn’t matter what wing he plays on, he doesn’t have the technical ability or football brain to affect games.

For what’s it worth Anthony has arguably been one of our best players this season. He’s almost undroppable at this point.
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Re: Koleosho

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:11 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:11 pm
He's a technically dreadful player. The amount of times he takes a bad first touch then runs into trouble chasing after it is unbelievable for a player at this level.

It's getting to the point where I'd be surprised if he ends up having a good career even at this level. He's technically miles off it.
I tend to agree now, which I find crazy given where he was at this time last season .

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:12 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm
I wish I knew what his strengths were.
if we played triangles and got him in behind sides he would do far more damage, as it is we are asking him to try and beat players and he can't. He has pace to burn but we are making it hard for him and that has clearly affected his confidence. Put him in a better side and he would look better, i'm hoping a PL team offers good money for him and we cash in though, he's not going to thrive in a Parker side.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Goliath » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:13 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:11 pm
I tend to agree now, which I find crazy given where he was at this time last season .
I didn't rate him last season either, his end product was absolutely woeful but he's definitely dropped a few levels since then

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:15 pm

Goliath wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:13 pm
I didn't rate him last season either, his end product was absolutely woeful but he's definitely dropped a few levels since then
I do agree regarding his end product last season. I thought it was poor at the time.

Although I think his dribbling and football brain seems to have regressed quite severely

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Re: Koleosho

Post by colne-claret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:16 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm
Luca is 21 and has massive potential … absolutley nowhere near his peak - lots to learn but certainly not over rated… he’s making mistakes but that age


More over rated off the top of my head ?

Joe Heart
Bersart Berisha
Wout
Darko
Darko Churlinov :lol:
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Re: Koleosho

Post by Dyched » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:16 pm

Hate the current obsession with “potential”.

We are basically playing a League 2 standard player. If he’s was 27 he’d be nowhere near this league.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by fidelcastro » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:12 pm
if we played triangles and got him in behind sides he would do far more damage, as it is we are asking him to try and beat players and he can't. He has pace to burn but we are making it hard for him and that has clearly affected his confidence. Put him in a better side and he would look better, i'm hoping a PL team offers good money for him and we cash in though, he's not going to thrive in a Parker side.
Hmmm... Maybe. He has age on his side too, but I'd definitely sell if we get a decent offer.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:17 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:56 pm
Thought he played well today and was the wrong player to take off.

Don't understand how Parker has managed to knock £20m+ off his value by constantly favouring a loan player and it's Koleosho that gets the stick.
Funny how you barely posted after the Norwich or Sheff United game...
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Re: Koleosho

Post by CryerBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:17 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:06 pm
Luca is 21 and has massive potential … absolutley nowhere near his peak - lots to learn but certainly not over rated… he’s making mistakes but that age


More over rated off the top of my head ?

Joe Heart
Bersart Berisha
Wout
Darko
You’re on the wind up I’m sure :lol:

His potential is non existent, he’s got worse with age and experience. His one advantage against many, his pace, he doesn’t use, and when he does, his end product is terrible.

I said last year that when he got injured it was a blessing in disguise, because it gave Odobert the chance to play who is 10x the player. It’s just a shame we don’t have much better to pick from at the moment.

Joe Hart and Wout - both full internationals for their respective countries, will naturally come with some expectations
Darko - another bad signing and he wasn’t over rated, it was pretty even with who thought he was good/bad
Berisha - at a time where we hardly ever signed any form of ‘flair’ player, and played well for Albania at the turf, never got a chance but file him along the Vydra’s of the world who got better the less he played.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by dvalley69 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:19 pm

Dyched wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:16 pm
Hate the current obsession with “potential”.

We are basically playing a League 2 standard player. If he’s was 27 he’d be nowhere near this league.
It's the only thing that'll make us money in the end. We buy 'potential'; they do well at a lower level and then we sell them on as having the 'potential' to do more at a higher level hence bumping up the fee a bit more because of this 'potential'. All marketing nonsense, but it works!!

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Mattster » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:21 pm

No point arguing, he's got a target on his back now. No way was he an issue today and yet he's the one with a thread created purely to bash him.

Says it all.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Mattster » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:22 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:17 pm
Funny how you barely posted after the Norwich or Sheff United game...
I did. I split my time between here and Twitter, don't often see the need to post the same thing on both.

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Row x » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:25 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 5:35 pm
Anyone rekon we got big money bids for him in January? I certainly hope so. Zero end product.
I love the way our so called fans support the players

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:26 pm

Mattster wrote:
Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:21 pm
No point arguing, he's got a target on his back now. No way was he an issue today and yet he's the one with a thread created purely to bash him.

Says it all.
Mattster you honestly can’t be watching the game if you didn’t think he was an issue today.

Him, Sarmiento and Jay were shocking.

Koleosho has been called out because he’s been really poor all season and there’s no evidence he’s improving (I actually think he’s getting worse every time he plays).

I get that he’s young but along with Foster/Brownhill he’s probably the most valuable player in the squad so he comes with expectancy

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Re: Koleosho

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:28 pm

Based on koleoshos performances we need a left winger aswell as a right winger and striker this Jan and we need them quick whilst sheff united are struggling with injuries

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Re: Koleosho

Post by Stacks » Wed Jan 01, 2025 6:29 pm

Darko is still our player and is out on loan. I would rather play Darko than Kolo right now

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