January Transfer Window Rumours

[dibraidio]

That would be a short video if it was his goals for Eyupspor

That’s from last season at Rizespor

Oops, Oddly enough I don't speak Turkish. Searched for Ey-up-spor and Shelvey.

[Cooclaret]

What stats have you got to back up how 4 players from the u21s would be better than Shelvey, please share

This is just a nonsense argument. What current stats do you have that Shelvey would be more effective than any of the four?

I’m all for an opportunity for youth players, a place on the bench, training with the first team, and minutes at the end of a game that’s won.

I think we do the first part well, the last part poorly.

You don’t know if they’re good enough without an opportunity.

[TsarBomba]

Adewumi scores for Dundee within 6 minutes against Rangers.

[Row x]

Adewumi scores for Dundee within 6 minutes against Rangers.

Seems to be doing OK....chat in studio before game

“I think they’re a club moving in the right direction”
“He works his socks off… That relationship with Burnley has worked well for Dundee”

Chris Sutton & Kris Boyd on Dundee’s form this season and the importance of Oluwaseun Adewumi

[123EasyasBFC]

This is just a nonsense argument. What current stats do you have that Shelvey would be more effective than any of the four?

I’m all for an opportunity for youth players, a place on the bench, training with the first team, and minutes at the end of a game that’s won.

I think we do the first part well, the last part poorly.

You don’t know if they’re good enough without an opportunity.

Shelvey 33 league games last season, Experience of the championship, it would be absolutely criminal to bring one of the young lads on for the last 10-15 minutes if one of the midfielders needed to come off in a big game.

Imagine Sheffield United at the end of the season at home, you need to bring a midfielder on to see the game out and you have the option of Shelvey or hugil, who are you bringing on?

Let the lads go and play league 2 football, hugil is playing national league, and yet people want him to come on and see games out

[Newcastleclaret93]

Seems to be doing OK....chat in studio before game

“I think they’re a club moving in the right direction”
“He works his socks off… That relationship with Burnley has worked well for Dundee”

Chris Sutton & Kris Boyd on Dundee’s form this season and the importance of Oluwaseun Adewumi

I watched them in the Dundee derby the other day. Thought he was one of there better players. (Certainly seemed a level above technically).

Young lad, hope he plays every game this season and learns a lot

[Hapag Lloyd]

Adewumi scores for Dundee within 6 minutes against Rangers.

Commentator saying that he’s extended his loan until the end of the season.

[boatshed bill]

Let the lads go and play league 2 football, hugil is playing national league, and yet people want him to come on and see games out

Is that really what people want?

[123EasyasBFC]

I watched them in the Dundee derby the other day. Thought he was one of there better players. (Certainly seemed a level above technically).

Young lad, hope he plays every game this season and learns a lot

Your last sentence perfectly sums up the season to sign Shelvey and not have u21s sat on the bench, let them go out and be starters in lower league teams to gain proper experience

[123EasyasBFC]

Is that really what people want?

Seems to be what people are suggesting we do rather than signing Shelvey

[Newcastleclaret93]

Aaron Ramsey has put a post on Twitter hinting that he’s back soon.

Be a massive boost for us. Think he would be great as that left sided midfielder that Mejbri has been playing of late.

[Owdsyker]

I like the look of Mick George of Peterborough, he's covered some ground tonight.

[Cooclaret]

Shelvey 33 league games last season, Experience of the championship, it would be absolutely criminal to bring one of the young lads on for the last 10-15 minutes if one of the midfielders needed to come off in a big game.

Imagine Sheffield United at the end of the season at home, you need to bring a midfielder on to see the game out and you have the option of Shelvey or hugil, who are you bringing on?

Let the lads go and play league 2 football, hugil is playing national league, and yet people want him to come on and see games out

Jon Walters
Steven Reid

For a starter

[boatshed bill]

Seems to be what people are suggesting we do rather than signing Shelvey

I'm not sure there's any connection. But i do wish we were giving our best young players a taste of Championship football when possible.

[ClaretTony]

No he said in a match. You're actually arguing against the player himself unbelievably.

Jack Cork has not played in any games this season - it’s as simple as that. I’m not arguing against anyone, I’m stating a fact.

[wilks_bfc]

I like the look of Mick George of Peterborough, he's covered some ground tonight.

Covers the pitch well
It’s like he’s playing in all 11 positions

[123EasyasBFC]

Jon Walters
Steven Reid

For a starter

How can you compare singings we made in the premier league to signing Shelvey in the championship.

You didn’t answer either, who would you rather come on to see a game out, Shelvey or hugil/any of the other u21 CMs?

[123EasyasBFC]

I'm not sure there's any connection. But i do wish we were giving our best young players a taste of Championship football when possible.

It’s not as simple as that, one of our best striker prospects couldn’t get a game in league 1 and has now moved to league to. Hugil who fans are suggesting play minutes in the championship for us is at fylde, he is not ready for championship football

[boatshed bill]

It’s not as simple as that, one of our best striker prospects couldn’t get a game in league 1 and has now moved to league to. Hugil who fans are suggesting play minutes in the championship for us is at fylde, he is not ready for championship football

Then if these players aren't ready I'd start asking why. Or do we run an academy for the benefit of National League clubs?

[Row x]

Jack Cork has not played in any games this season - it’s as simple as that. I’m not arguing against anyone, I’m stating a fact.

He hasn't played any official under 21 games

But he has played in at least one of the behind doors friendly games

[Blyclaret]

Aaron Ramsey has put a post on Twitter hinting that he’s back soon.

Be a massive boost for us. Think he would be great as that left sided midfielder that Mejbri has been playing of late.

Have you a link

[123EasyasBFC]

Then if these players aren't ready I'd start asking why. Or do we run an academy for the benefit of National League clubs?

What do you mean you’d be asking why, bauress is on the back of an ACL.

Think every club in the championship would like to have an u21s full of players ready for senior football but it doesn’t work like that, the odd one is good enough straight away but even the big clubs it doesn’t happen all the time

[ClaretTony]

He hasn't played any official under 21 games

But he has played in at least one of the behind doors friendly games

Has he? You know more than I do then.

[boatshed bill]

What do you mean you’d be asking why, bauress is on the back of an ACL.

Think every club in the championship would like to have an u21s full of players ready for senior football but it doesn’t work like that, the odd one is good enough straight away but even the big clubs it doesn’t happen all the time

I don't understand your comment about Bauress.
Yes, every club would like some academy products to succeed.
Have we had one since Dwight McNeil?

[Cooclaret]

How can you compare singings we made in the premier league to signing Shelvey in the championship.

You didn’t answer either, who would you rather come on to see a game out, Shelvey or hugil/any of the other u21 CMs?

You can’t argue with stupid it seems.

You can compare, journeyman players who are at the end of their career cash in and offer almost nothing.

Dale Stephens can be added to the list of wasted money, on broken players.

I would prefer a player who’s mobile and wants an opportunity. Of that’s an U21/23, perfect.

[123EasyasBFC]

I don't understand your comment about Bauress.
Yes, every club would like some academy products to succeed.
Have we had one since Dwight McNeil?

You said you would be asking questions why players aren’t ready to play championship football, when a young player does his ACL and is in his first season back, he shouldn’t be ready for championship football.

Yeah and before Dwight we didn’t have one after Jay Rod, it happens, its not as simple to just have a u21s squad good enough to play champ football, especially with how much money is involved in promotion, you can’t take a risk on a young player as simple now

[Newcastleclaret93]

Have you a link

https://x.com/aaronramseyx/status/18774 ... cYMQnkX92A

[123EasyasBFC]

You can’t argue with stupid it seems.

You can compare, journeyman players who are at the end of their career cash in and offer almost nothing.

Dale Stephens can be added to the list of wasted money, on broken players.

I would prefer a player who’s mobile and wants an opportunity. Of that’s an U21/23, perfect.

You are the one acting stupid by giving Walters, Reid and stephens as examples to signing Shelvey in the championship.

But if you want to argue about so called journeymen that we signed whilst in the prem, we signed Phil bardsley and Erik Pieters on frees and they turned out to be good servants for us.

[Blyclaret]

https://x.com/aaronramseyx/status/18774 ... cYMQnkX92A

Thanks mate

[boatshed bill]

You said you would be asking questions why players aren’t ready to play championship football, when a young player does his ACL and is in his first season back, he shouldn’t be ready for championship football.

Yeah and before Dwight we didn’t have one after Jay Rod, it happens, its not as simple to just have a u21s squad good enough to play champ football, especially with how much money is involved in promotion, you can’t take a risk on a young player as simple now

Yes, but Bauress is just one academy lad out of probably hundreds, and I do get that he is a bit of a stand-out player.
I just don't get the low level of expectation around these young footballers if a loan into the National League is the best they can expect after being at a PL/ Championship club for years. So actually why aren't they ready for a bit better?

[123EasyasBFC]

Yes, but Bauress is just one academy lad out of probably hundreds, and I do get that he is a bit of a stand-out player.
I just don't get the low level of expectation around these young footballers if a loan into the National League is the best they can expect after being at a PL/ Championship club for years. So actually why aren't they ready for a bit better?

What you are suggesting u21s at championship clubs should go out on loan at other championship clubs

[boatshed bill]

What you are suggesting u21s at championship clubs should go out on loan at other championship clubs

No, I'm not suggesting anything like that.

[Rowls]

You are the one acting stupid by giving Walters, Reid and stephens as examples to signing Shelvey in the championship.

But if you want to argue about so called journeymen that we signed whilst in the prem, we signed Phil bardsley and Erik Pieters on frees and they turned out to be good servants for us.

What isn't always evident to us on the outside is the effect certain players have on squad morale and team spirit.

This is something we (apparently) lost entirely last season and which (apparently) Scott Parker has worked hard on this season.

It's far more powerful and important than a lot of supporters realise.

[Dark Cloud]

if he's only worth the last 10 minutes is he really what we need?

In short no, because he'll be on very good wages. Massengo was fine doing the last 10 minutes to see games out.

[123EasyasBFC]

No, I'm not suggesting anything like that.

What are you suggesting then because you aren’t really commenting on the initial point of how playing the young lads is better than en experienced pro like Shelvey

[randomclaret2]

In short no, because he'll be on very good wages. Massengo was fine doing the last 10 minutes to see games out.

How often did Massengo do that ?

[Dark Cloud]

How often did Massengo do that ?

Not sure, but he definitely did it and Parker trusted him to do it.

[Goliath]

He hasn't played any official under 21 games

But he has played in at least one of the behind doors friendly games

I wouldn't bother. Cork said it himself on live tv and he still thinks he's right. You can't argue with stupid.

[boatshed bill]

What are you suggesting then because you aren’t really commenting on the initial point of how playing the young lads is better than en experienced pro like Shelvey

I'm suggesting that we should be aiming to develop players capable of bolstering the first team squad, not whole teams or anything near it of course, maybe one a season?
My concern has precious little to do with Jonjo Shelvey, who doesn't play for Burnley, and may never do so. My concern is that some of our best young prospects end up playing tier 4 or 5 on loan.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

From sky sports. I don't think he has been directly linked with us, but a few have mentioned wanting us to sign him.

Bournemouth have agreed a deal with Napoli for Philip Billing.

Loan until the end of the season. The Serie A side are paying his wages and the deal includes an option to buy at £9 million.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Not sure, but he definitely did it and Parker trusted him to do it.

He’s appeared as sub 8 times this season. Last one Coventry at home. Can’t imagine there were many minutes in those games.

[123EasyasBFC]

I'm suggesting that we should be aiming to develop players capable of bolstering the first team squad, not whole teams or anything near it of course, maybe one a season?
My concern has precious little to do with Jonjo Shelvey, who doesn't play for Burnley, and may never do so. My concern is that some of our best young prospects end up playing tier 4 or 5 on loan.

Players go out on loan to clubs that are suitable for ability and game time, if we had a player at McNeils ability then no about they would be in and around the first team

[boatshed bill]

Players go out on loan to clubs that are suitable for ability and game time, if we had a player at McNeils ability then no about they would be in and around the first team

Exactly, that's basically what I'm saying. Are we capable of producing players (even one a season would help) to break into the first team squad?
If not, why not?

[Cooclaret]

You are the one acting stupid by giving Walters, Reid and stephens as examples to signing Shelvey in the championship.

But if you want to argue about so called journeymen that we signed whilst in the prem, we signed Phil bardsley and Erik Pieters on frees and they turned out to be good servants for us.

Christ on a bike.

Fine you win, congratulations.

[summitclaret]

You can’t argue with stupid it seems.

You can compare, journeyman players who are at the end of their career cash in and offer almost nothing.

Dale Stephens can be added to the list of wasted money, on broken players.

I would prefer a player who’s mobile and wants an opportunity. Of that’s an U21/23, perfect.

The suggestion is for a 6 month contract ffs.

[burnmark]

Nixon reporting now on the Shelvey situation. In talks.

[123EasyasBFC]

Christ on a bike.

Fine you win, congratulations.

Your own argument is floored with bardsley and pieters so you have nothing to say

[123EasyasBFC]

Tell you what though aduwemi has had a brilliant game for Dundee tonight, looks a talent.

Just shows what a loan move playing week in week out can do for a young player

[blatherwickstattoos]

32 is still youngish. Great experience in the league. Good passer of the ball. Not a bad signing this. Think the next signing we make will be a big one if the rumours I’m hearing are true…also will make Alan paces daughter very happy

[colne-claret]

32 is still youngish. Great experience in the league. Good passer of the ball. Not a bad signing this. Think the next signing we make will be a big one if the rumours I’m hearing are true…also will make Alan paces daughter very happy

Don’t do this.