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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by MDWat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:49 pm

My concern with Whittaker is he’s very lazy.

Bucket loads of ability, but not sure he fits in this team.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:51 pm

MDWat wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:49 pm
My concern with Whittaker is he’s very lazy.

Bucket loads of ability, but not sure he fits in this team.
Must have watched him a lot to come to this conclusion?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:03 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:41 pm
I think Anthony is an obligation to buy... Sarmiento, as far as I'm aware, isn't, and I'm not so sure he's what we need...
Don’t think we even have an option on Sarmiento?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:12 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:03 pm
Don’t think we even have an option on Sarmiento?
Oh well.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:13 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:04 pm
Football insiders saying we have bid for Whittaker again
Apparently Plymouth Argyle have rejected Burnley’s offer for Morgan Whittaker

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:15 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:13 pm
Apparently Plymouth Argyle have rejected Burnley’s offer for Morgan Whittaker
Usual negotiations, first bid gets rejected

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Alan Young » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:16 pm

Whittaker makes perfect sense. Left footed wide forward, proven at this level and with the potential to improve. Hope we can pull it off.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:25 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:13 pm
Apparently Plymouth Argyle have rejected Burnley’s offer for Morgan Whittaker
That was quick!

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:26 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:13 pm
Apparently Plymouth Argyle have rejected Burnley’s offer for Morgan Whittaker
Can’t see that anywhere?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:27 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:13 pm
Apparently Plymouth Argyle have rejected Burnley’s offer for Morgan Whittaker
Now how would you know 10 mins after the news broke that we gave bid

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:28 pm

I would imagine that at this stage in the transfer window, given how complicated it can be to conclude deals in January, we'd have a few irons in the fire. If Whittaker is one of them that'd be no surprise if we were interested in the summer. Doesn't necessarily mean he's our first choice though.

I don't know enough about him to have a strong opinion. Clearly he did well last season but that appeared to be a bit of a bolt from the blue given his mixed record at Swansea, and he's not backed it up this season to any great extent. But at 24, he's just entering his prime years.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by jedi_master » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:34 pm

We’re in a stronger position to get this done now than we were on deadline day, so I’m optimistic. I base that on everything being up in the air back then, the player and his agent might have been 50/50 on pushing for it at the Plymouth end considering the mass exodus we’d just had and no guarantees of our credentials. Five months on we’re now looking a very good bet for automatic promotion and have a settled, harmonious looking squad. Plymouth are looking certainties for relegation, so you’d think the player will be desperate for this to happen now if he wasn’t before. He could do his ACL on Saturday and be playing in League One in 7 months time (this will be what his agent will be advising, and it’s not wrong is it?).

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:37 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:26 pm
Can’t see that anywhere?
See it now,

Falls well short. Tbf I think most first bids do

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Djs254 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:45 pm

I’d like to think that we must have some kind of inclination that we can get him especially with the talks from the summer window. It makes sense that a first bid would be rejected but obviously you obviously pay what you think someone is worth.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Murger » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:49 pm

I wonder if we’re freeing up some funds by offloading Magic Mike? Be a shame.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Cooclaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:52 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:49 pm
I wonder if we’re freeing up some funds by offloading Magic Mike? Be a shame.
I heard we’ve turned down a Spurs bid for Esteve and told them not to come back. Same kid who told me that they were interested .

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:53 pm

Anthony was an obligation if we get promoted, no option on Sarmiento afaik

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Rowls » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:55 pm

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Tanks are actually pretty fast.

Our Challenger 2 apparently goes at 37mph, the German Leopard 2 45mph. They can of course turn on a sixpence.
Need to chime in on this important tangent.

Hipper is correct about modern tank agility. However, the phrase about big machines turning slowly refers to tankers, not tanks.

This particular metaphor has tanked.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Commy » Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:58 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:52 pm
I heard we’ve turned down a Spurs bid for Esteve and told them not to come back. Same kid who told me that they were interested .
I can see Spurs trying for him. All their defenders are injured and they have Archie Gray playing centre half.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:07 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:52 pm
I heard we’ve turned down a Spurs bid for Esteve and told them not to come back. Same kid who told me that they were interested .
For me spurs would be a terrible move for esteve, they already have van der ven who is a left footed cb, not many teams play with two left footed cbs

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:07 pm

Commy wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 9:58 pm
I can see Spurs trying for him. All their defenders are injured and they have Archie Gray playing centre half.
Romero back next week and Ben Davies and van de Ben back by end of Jan

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:13 pm

Jay O’Connor (Irish player ITK) reckons we’ve approached a club for an Irish left wing back, doesn’t say who.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:13 pm

I can see Esteve going to somewhere in Italy, he'd be class over there.

How much is Whittaker worth ?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Aclaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:16 pm

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:16 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:13 pm
Jay O’Connor (Irish player ITK) reckons we’ve approached a club for an Irish left wing back, doesn’t say who.
Could be manning at Southampton

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:17 pm

We have three of the starting eleven out of contract in 6 months, I cannot see any way they sell Esteve, Trafford or other big targets this window. The players will be told to stay put for now at least, and based on what we see of squad solidarity, I doubt that will be a problem.

I do expect Tresor, Redmond, Ekdal, Delcroix to go. I would prefer Tresor to stay but I cannot see him being Parker’s cup of tea even if he wanted to, which I also doubt.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:19 pm

Tin hat on here, but I'd happily loan Koleosho to Plymouth till the end of the season to sweeten the deal. He needs to be the main man somewhere and at Plymouth, he would have more space to operate than he's been getting in a lot of our games.
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:20 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:16 pm
Could be manning at Southampton
hope not

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:22 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:20 pm
hope not
You not a fan? Manning is defo better than Pires but Humphreys shirt to lose so surely Dodgson has had enough loans now

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:22 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:16 pm
Could be manning at Southampton
That was my first (and only!) thought. He’s a left back though more than a wing back, isn’t he?

My guess is this is a kid.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:24 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:13 pm
I can see Esteve going to somewhere in Italy, he'd be class over there.

How much is Whittaker worth ?
How much Whittaker is worth and how much we would have to pay to sign him in the January window are probably two different things. Especially as Plymouth are in a relegation battle.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:24 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:16 pm
Could be manning at Southampton
It is manning he’s confirmed it on DM

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:24 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:22 pm
That was my first (and only!) thought. He’s a left back though more than a wing back, isn’t he?

My guess is this is a kid.
The initial tweet says LWB but yeah could be a kid

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:27 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:24 pm
It is manning he’s confirmed it on DM
Confirmed to you via DM?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:28 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:22 pm
You not a fan? Manning is defo better than Pires but Humphreys shirt to lose so surely Dodgson has had enough loans now
at the moment my mum would be better than Pires ! :lol:

I don't rate Manning at all, he's also been awful for Saints too

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:29 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:24 pm
How much Whittaker is worth and how much we would have to pay to sign him in the January window are probably two different things. Especially as Plymouth are in a relegation battle.
Aye, the rumoured level Plymouth want for him I wouldn't even bother, there must be far better value elsewhere

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:30 pm

Manning played the Full 90 mins for Soton today

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:35 pm

May have enquired about Manning in case we decide to move Pires out?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:39 pm

An odd one imo

Obviously has talent although, in a struggling team, it's been hidden this season.
If he comes in someone has to go. Anthony we have an obligation to buy I believe. Koleosho who has loads of potential, and with good coaching could prove as good if not better than Whittaker, and Tresor who if fit is better than any of them. A big IF I know.
I hope we don't pay through the nose, just to stand still. Unless we are certain that he improves the first XI I can't see the point.
Just an opinion, so I'd happily be proved wrong.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:41 pm

When you consider JBL moved for 1.5 million Euros Whittaker is massively over priced
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by colne-claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:45 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:41 pm
When you consider JBL moved for 1.5 million Euros Whittaker is massively over priced
It’s the British tax sadly.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by DCWat » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:47 pm

Allowing for the fact that Plymouth have struggled this season (and had Wayne Rooney in charge), Whittaker has delivered one good season.

Plymouth were hardly pulling up any trees the season before, when he hit those very good numbers.

He’s obviously a half decent player, but is he just another of many who had one great season?
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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:47 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:45 pm
It’s the British tax sadly.
Yep, I wouldn't pay it.

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:51 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:22 pm
You not a fan? Manning is defo better than Pires but Humphreys shirt to lose so surely Dodgson has had enough loans now
I should also add, my record of correctly predicting that someone is a good or bad player is on par with Rovers record against us for that last 14 years :D

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:51 pm

Whittaker is left footed and mainly plays from the right but can operate centrally if needed. We know that Parker likes Anthony on the left (although he’s been very good on the right) and Koleosho has struggled to adapt to lower blocks.

Bringing him in would give the team that balance of both wingers being able to cut in on to their stronger foot, take some pressure off Koleosho who is still extremely inexperienced, and offer us more goal threat.

I do think this would signal the exit of possibly both Redmond and Tresor. Giving us options out wide of :

Anthony
Koleosho
Whittaker
Sarmiento
Benson (injury permitting)

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:54 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:51 pm
I should also add, my record of correctly predicting that someone is a good or bad player is on par with Rovers record against us for that last 14 years :D
I haven’t watched much of Southampton this season but I remember manning and Swansea and thought he was very good

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:55 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:29 pm
Aye, the rumoured level Plymouth want for him I wouldn't even bother, there must be far better value elsewhere
What’s the rumoured price they are looking for mate?

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by Commy » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:57 pm

From the Argyle board.

'He pretty much said he would like to play for Burnley in an interview on Argyle TV, so I don’t think there’s much doubt he’d want the move. Whether he pushes for it, is another matter.'

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Re: January Transfer Window Rumours

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:04 pm

Interesting that even though Parker has the title ‘head coach’ he’s fully in charge of transfer decisions, 3 players signed before he was appointed sambo, Pires and hountondji fully out the picture

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