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Team for Plymouth

Post by morninbob » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:42 pm

Hannibal is back, I would like to see him in his natural position.

Trafford
Roberts CJ Steve Bash
Cullen Hannibal
Anthony brownhill foster
Flemming

Subs
Hladkey
Sonne
Egan
Laurant
Tresor
Koleosho
Sarmiento
Jay
Barnes

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:46 pm

———————Trafford
Roberts —-CJ ——Esteve Humphreys
Anthony Cullen Brownhill Hannibal
—————Flemming—Foster

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:49 pm

Need to be cautious in this one, I think.

Brownhill, Cullen, Laurent and Hannibal all to start.

Egan, Worrall, Ekdal, Delcroix, Sonne and Pires all on the bench.
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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by MDWat » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:51 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:46 pm
———————Trafford
Roberts —-CJ ——Esteve Humphreys
Anthony Cullen Brownhill Hannibal
—————Flemming—Foster
This

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:51 pm

Could be pretty close with that bob.

Need something better than the half-arsed contributions from Flemming and Brownhill we saw on Friday mind.

I'd still prefer Foster up top with Flemming at 10..giving wingers Sarm and Anth someting to aim at...and giving some speed on the counter as I cant see the Janners sat in their own third all night.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:53 pm

Trafford

Roberts - CJ - Steve - Bash

Cullen - Brownhill

Anthony- Flemming- Hannibal

Foster

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:54 pm

Time to take the shackles off a bit

--------Traff
Roberts-CJ-Stev-Bash
-------Cullen
--Brownhill--Hannibal
Anthony-Flemming-Foster

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Murger » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:54 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:53 pm
Trafford

Roberts - CJ - Steve - Bash

Cullen - Brownhill

Anthony- Flemming- Hannibal

Foster
The only thing with that is that Cullen and Brownhill can’t play together.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:04 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:54 pm
The only thing with that is that Cullen and Brownhill can’t play together.
They have played together for the following away games:

Luton (W) 4-1
West Brom (d) 0-0
Bristol City (W) 1-0
Norwich (W) 2-1

10 points out of a possible 12

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Stonehouse » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:07 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:49 pm
Need to be cautious in this one, I think.

Brownhill, Cullen, Laurent and Hannibal all to start.

Egan, Worrall, Ekdal, Delcroix, Sonne and Pires all on the bench.
We’re playing the bottom of the league.
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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:11 pm

Trafford
Roberts CJ Esteve Humphreys
Cullen
Brownhill Flemming
Anthony Foster Hannibal

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:11 pm

Pires needs to start so Bash is fit for DL

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by claretgimmer » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:13 pm

Trafford
Roberts CJ Esteve Humphries
Anthony Cullin Bauress Laurant Saramiento/Koleosho
Flemming Foster

Top Lg1 side struggling Ch side the young lad has enough IMO
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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:16 pm

Two up front?? This manager?! Give your head a wobble.
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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Murger » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:17 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:49 pm
Need to be cautious in this one, I think.

Brownhill, Cullen, Laurent and Hannibal all to start.

Egan, Worrall, Ekdal, Delcroix, Sonne and Pires all on the bench.
Why do we need to be cautious? They are bottom for a reason.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:20 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:07 pm
We’re playing the bottom of the league.
Suspect there might be a chasm of sarc behind his post.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by dougcollins » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:21 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:49 pm
Need to be cautious in this one, I think.
Do you think SD is going to be more cautious than he usually is?

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:27 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:54 pm
Time to take the shackles off a bit

--------Traff
Roberts-CJ-Stev-Bash
-------Cullen
--Brownhill--Hannibal
Anthony-Flemming-Foster
My team too-maybe Laurent for Hannibal depends how Parker feels about Hannibal coming back into the team so soon
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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:35 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:21 pm
Do you think SD is going to be more cautious than he usually is?
Freudian slip? ;)
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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:00 pm

I’ll be really disappointed if he doesn’t go with Flemming and Foster as a front two. If he won’t do it against the basement side with the worst defensive record, he never will.

Hannibal is back so stick him wide left to keep things solid, but please let’s try and score some goals down there. I can’t cope with another 0-0.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:56 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:27 pm
My team too-maybe Laurent for Hannibal depends how Parker feels about Hannibal coming back into the team so soon
Maybe even a game for Bash to lead the line, Flemming behind him and Foster off the left.

Bash can occupy center halves, hopefully leads to opening up a bit more space for the rest of them to operate in.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by dougcollins » Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:03 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:35 pm
Freudian slip? ;)
Indeed!
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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:34 pm

Honestly right now I would go for any line up that allows a bit more attacking freedom.

The negative passing all the time is slowly killing me

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:09 pm

------------------Trafford
Roberts CJER Esteve Humphreys
-------------------Cullen
---------------Brownhill Hannibal
Koleosho---‐--Flemming ---Foster

Team can of course form into something closer to a 4411 with Foster going centrally and Hannibal drifting left.

Koleosho needs some game time to rebuild his confidence. Anthony carries a heavy load for us so I'd be tempted to give him a breather and give Koleosho an opportunity.

This of course assumes Roberts and Brownhill are fit. If Roberts isn't fit, Sonne comes in but doubtless Parker would want Anthony's experience ahead of him. If Brownhill isn't fit, I'd like Laurent to partner Cullen to give us a silid base, Flemming to play as a 10, with Anthony wide right and Luca wide left and Foster leading the line.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Murger » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:10 pm

claretspice wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:09 pm
------------------Trafford
Roberts CJER Esteve Humphreys
-------------------Cullen
---------------Brownhill Hannibal
Koleosho---‐--Flemming ---Foster

Team can of course form into something closer to a 4411 with Foster going centrally and Hannibal drifting left.

Koleosho needs some game time to rebuild his confidence. Anthony carries a heavy load for us so I'd be tempted to give him a breather and give Koleosho an opportunity.

This of course assumes Roberts and Brownhill are fit. If Roberts isn't fit, Sonne comes in but doubtless Parker would want Anthony's experience ahead of him. If Brownhill isn't fit, I'd like Laurent to partner Cullen to give us a silid base, Flemming to play as a 10, with Anthony wide right and Luca wide left and Foster leading the line.
Anthony just had a breather in FA cup week.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Goliath » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:13 pm

........Trafford

Roberts.. Egan Riley...Esteve...Humphreys

..............Cullen........Brownhill

Anthony..........Tresor.........Sarmiento

......................Foster
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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:14 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 4:34 pm
Honestly right now I would go for any line up that allows a bit more attacking freedom.

The negative passing all the time is slowly killing me
Do you not understand we dont have a fantastic defensive record for nothing.
We start being more forward thinking and we compromise our defence. Its a balance

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:16 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:14 pm
Do you not understand we dont have a fantastic defensive record for nothing.
We start being more forward thinking and we compromise our defence. Its a balance
The balance is currently too far to the defensive side. There is a reason that conceding 9 goals at this stage in unheard of. It's because teams must take risks with and without the ball to score as well.

We have PL quality defenders and we can afford to leave them a little less protected and trust their 1v1 ability in order to get men running ahead of the ball.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:23 pm

Murger wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:10 pm
Anthony just had a breather in FA cup week.
Yep, lot of games coming up though in s short space of time and we need as many attacking options in form as possible.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:26 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:14 pm
Do you not understand we dont have a fantastic defensive record for nothing.
We start being more forward thinking and we compromise our defence. Its a balance
The less time we spend mucking about with the ball near our net risky losing it whilst we’re surrounded by their players and the more time we spend with the ball near their net with more of our players there with opportunities to shoot at their goal then the more likely we are to win

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Goliath » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:54 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:16 pm
The balance is currently too far to the defensive side. There is a reason that conceding 9 goals at this stage in unheard of. It's because teams must take risks with and without the ball to score as well.

We have PL quality defenders and we can afford to leave them a little less protected and trust their 1v1 ability in order to get men running ahead of the ball.
Agree with this. It sounds silly to say but our defensive record is TOO good in a way. When you see how poor our attacking record is it suggests we are focusing too much on one side of the game.

If we were good at scoring from set pieces it would help.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:56 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:14 pm
Do you not understand we dont have a fantastic defensive record for nothing.
We start being more forward thinking and we compromise our defence. Its a balance
That’s fine. I’m not bothered about our defensive record at all

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:01 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:54 pm
Agree with this. It sounds silly to say but our defensive record is TOO good in a way. When you see how poor our attacking record is it suggests we are focusing too much on one side of the game.

If we were good at scoring from set pieces it would help.
Our set pieces are absolutely pathetic. When we weren't creating much under Dyche at least you knew when we got a set piece it would be swung in right on the money and there'd be at least 4 lads attacking it like their lives depended on it.

Funny Dyche managed all that without a set piece coach.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by willsclarets » Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:06 pm

Never going to happen, but:

Trafford

Roberts. CJ. Esteve. Humphrys


Cullen. Brownhill

Anthony. Hannibal

Flemming

Foster

Foster can take up wide positions leaving hannibal to tuck in on occasion. Or both forwards can get in the box with Humphrys providing the ball in
Hannibal also makes us a little more compact defensively over someone like koleosho. Flemming can face goal a little more often in the 10.

Edit. Didn't look like thison my screen till I hit send. Obvs a 4231

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Goliath » Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:09 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:01 pm
Our set pieces are absolutely pathetic. When we weren't creating much under Dyche at least you knew when we got a set piece it would be swung in right on the money and there'd be at least 4 lads attacking it like their lives depended on it.

Funny Dyche managed all that without a set piece coach.
I think a lot of it depends on personnel. If we had Michael Keane for example we would probably have scored 3 or 4 more goals.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by dougcollins » Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:15 pm

Well, if the set-piece coach came with VK we've been terrible ever since he arrived.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by pauliopaulio » Sun Jan 19, 2025 7:26 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 6:15 pm
Well, if the set-piece coach came with VK we've been terrible ever since he arrived.
I can’t see what he adds - we are toothless from set pieces

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 7:29 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:56 pm
That’s fine. I’m not bothered about our defensive record at all
You would be if we started to leak goals.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:06 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 7:29 pm
You would be if we started to leak goals.
We can leak the occasional goal. We are supposed to be one of the top teams.

I think the defensive at all times attitude is massively hindering us going forward.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Commy » Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:11 pm

Reading the Plymouth board, they are just hoofing it upfield for someone to hold on to. The problem is that they have one of the smallest players in the league trying to win it and hold it. They appear to have gone more defensive as they have been losing or drawing 1-0 instead of getting battered. Not good news for us. If he doesn't let us of the leash for this one he never will.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Jakubs Tash » Sun Jan 19, 2025 8:20 pm

Farke isn’t a football genius - but he plays attacking football with a squad of players too good for this level. The result is a team that wins a lot of matches and scores plenty of goals. Very much like we were two years ago under VK and Farke’s Norwich team that went up. Of course we’ve seen that you need a little bit more than that when you go up a level - something Farke has also had his struggles with.

With the squad of players that we have we should be attacking teams and just generally being too strong for them. But tactics and team set up hold us back massively.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:54 pm

I like claretgimmer's 12 man line-up.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:56 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:54 pm
I like claretgimmer's 12 man line-up.
Clearly inspiration from Sunderland's on Friday night....

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:57 pm

We tried the gung ho attitude in premier league with the other fella and see where we got.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:58 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:57 pm
We tried the gung ho attitude in premier league with the other fella and see where we got.
We are not in the premier league.

Also not a single person is saying to go Gung Ho.

But being more proactive in attack is a must

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Grimsdale » Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:13 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:58 pm
We are not in the premier league.

Also not a single person is saying to go Gung Ho.

But being more proactive in attack is a must
Exactly. I don't want to see us get to the 70th minute with the score still 0-0 with us having had one shot on target and Parker throwing attackers on in an act of desperation.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:48 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:58 pm
We are not in the premier league.

Also not a single person is saying to go Gung Ho.

But being more proactive in attack is a must
Agree with this we need to drop the safety first approach and start getting at teams more.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 11:41 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:48 pm
Agree with this we need to drop the safety first approach and start getting at teams more.
Unfortunately, SHP, the pattern has been set. Parker is not a manager who 'gets at teams more'. 0-0 is ideal for him as long as it stays like that, a goal.advantage takes him into a different sphere. The approach or style is not going to change now.

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Overseascricketer » Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:34 am

This will never happen, but I’d like to see JB8 (c) dropped for a week

Trafford
Roberts CJ Esteve Humphreys
Cullen Laurent
Anthony Sarmiento Hannibal
Foster

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Re: Team for Plymouth

Post by Blyclaret » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:19 am

Overseascricketer wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 6:34 am
This will never happen, but I’d like to see JB8 (c) dropped for a week

Trafford
Roberts CJ Esteve Humphreys
Cullen Laurent
Anthony Sarmiento Hannibal
Foster
And drop the only player Flemming that has been scoring for us ??

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