January Transfer Window Rumours

[taio]

Why not? I understand the financial element but Leicester did it, they sold two players in Maddison and Barnes and kept the rest of their premier league team today and benefited by winning the league comfortably in the end.

Fulham did it under Marco Silva too.

11 games drawn this season, if we had the quality we had last season we would be absolutely clear at the top

Some players wanted to leave and it's easier said than done replacing the likes of Berge with as good a player

[Walt]

Why not? I understand the financial element but Leicester did it, they sold two players in Maddison and Barnes and kept the rest of their premier league team today and benefited by winning the league comfortably in the end.

Fulham did it under Marco Silva too.

11 games drawn this season, if we had the quality we had last season we would be absolutely clear at the top

I assume we would be much better off points wise. No point dwelling on it though, Pace sold them all and that's that. All we need to hope he does now is learn from the crap windows and give Parker some new forward options over the next 2 weeks.

[Commy]

Stuart Armstrong

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... whitecaps/

Going from one of the youngest teams to the oldest.

[agreenwood]

Would presumably only be until the end of the season.

I can see the value it if it helped us go up, but either way we're looking at reasonable turnover of players again this summer, unless there's a genuine belief that the U21s can step up. We're probably going to lose Brownhill, Roberts, Rodriguez and Barnes regardless of our division. Egan-Reilly too if we don't sort out his contract. Then if we don't go up I can't see us fending off interest in Trafford and Esteve.

It's tough because signing players you think could make the step into the Premier League costs big money, but you'd like to see some eye on next season and Barnes, Shelvey and Armstrong don't fall into that category.

[beeholeclaret]

I assume we would be much better off points wise. No point dwelling on it though, Pace sold them all and that's that. All we need to hope he does now is learn from the crap windows and give Parker some new forward options over the next 2 weeks.

I maybe wrong but Leicester and Fulham had massively rich investment backing to spend on their respective football clubs? Who is pumping money into Burnley? Big city clubs with large support base?

We've had a decent run in Premier League but most of that money has gone on players wages etc.

Hope we can get someone in but realistically how many top strikers are out there that want to play Championship football.

[Walt]

I maybe wrong but Leicester and Fulham had massively rich investment backing to spend on their respective football clubs? Who is pumping money into Burnley? Big city clubs with large support base?

We've had a decent run in Premier League but most of that money has gone on players wages etc.

Hope we can get someone in but realistically how many top strikers are out there that want to play Championship football.

I know we don't have much money, I'm not suggesting we will be spending a fortune, nor should we be taking huge risks. It's obvious we need something different in forward areas, partly down to Parker’s style I accept. I'm sure we will be signing players, whether they're good enough remains to be seen.

The short answer is hardly any top strikers will be signing for championship clubs. There will be players available that can make a difference for us though. Who they are and their availability is an answer I don't have.

[warksclaret]

We are all quite rightly asking where can we find a striker with goals in them, without paying the earth. I hope if we are looking, its not abroad as it takes at least 3 to 4 months to settle in to a move to this country and into the culture of a new club. However the club has had enough time to be researching the U-21's of teams, and up and coming younger players at teams like Liverpool, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Aston Villa for a young striker that would already be making the squad in other lower PL teams. Many good examples like Delap, Palmer,Rogers (Aston Villa) , Macatee (Man City), Ben Doak (Boro-) a current example of someone out on loan but drawing huge attention now. Some of these are worth fortunes now, but there will be younger versions of these at the clubs I mentioned that could prove successful being on loan to a top Championship side

[Hedontplayforyou]

The only way I could see us signing Armstrong is if we are going to cash in on Brownhill whilst we can…

Armstrong is versatile and has played mostly as an advanced central midfielder/no.10 role but can play out wide when required, at 32 you’d expect that role to be more central these days but just don’t see the sense in this unless Shelvey is off?

[boyyanno]

Stuart Armstrong

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... whitecaps/

Going from one of the youngest teams to the oldest.

To be fair Armstrong is a good player and played pretty much every game for Saints last year.

I am a little concerned that we haven't really been linked with the type of quality I think we need yet though.

[claretspice]

If Armstrong is fit to hit the ground running, hes the sort of quality we need. Excellent player who we'd have all been very happy to sign last summer. He's a good forward thinking passer in midfield, he's versatile and he scores goals.

[burnley007]

We are being linked with too many 30+ players.
Bringing on our 'new' striker against Sunderland really showed the massive lack of attacking talent at the club.

I am starting to worry.

[Goliath]

We are being linked with too many 30+ players.
Bringing on our 'new' striker against Sunderland really showed the massive lack of attacking talent at the club.

I am starting to worry.

I don't think we are a hugely attractive proposition for attacking talent at the moment. They will just look at the ridiculous number of goalless draws and think it's not the right club for attacking players to flourish.
It's the opposite of what we had under Kompany.

[Blyclaret]

We are being linked with too many 30+ players.
Bringing on our 'new' striker against Sunderland really showed the massive lack of attacking talent at the club.

I am starting to worry.

Dont worry about a thing ….. cos every little thing gonna be alright

[Blyclaret]

The only way I could see us signing Armstrong is if we are going to cash in on Brownhill whilst we can…

Armstrong is versatile and has played mostly as an advanced central midfielder/no.10 role but can play out wide when required, at 32 you’d expect that role to be more central these days but just don’t see the sense in this unless Shelvey is off?

It could be Shelvey is option 1 maybe Armstrong is the alternate.

[Hedontplayforyou]

You could be right

[GetIntoEm]

We are being linked with too many 30+ players.
Bringing on our 'new' striker against Sunderland really showed the massive lack of attacking talent at the club.

I am starting to worry.

I don't think I've ever seen someone so dramatic as you on these boards. It's the 19th of January, currently keeping up with the top of league. There's nothing to be worried about

[burnley007]

I don't think I've ever seen someone so dramatic as you on these boards. It's the 19th of January, currently keeping up with the top of league. There's nothing to be worried about

That post is dramatic? I'm the most dramatic you've ever seen. Wow.

[123EasyasBFC]

It could be Shelvey is option 1 maybe Armstrong is the alternate.

I agree surely it’s one or the other. Can’t see us signing Shelvey and Armstrong whilst also retaining Redmond and Tresor

[Big Vinny K]

Why not? I understand the financial element but Leicester did it, they sold two players in Maddison and Barnes and kept the rest of their premier league team today and benefited by winning the league comfortably in the end.

Fulham did it under Marco Silva too.

11 games drawn this season, if we had the quality we had last season we would be absolutely clear at the top

And for every Leicester there are many more relegated teams who have a mass exodus of players like we did. Players like Vardy at Leicester were on contracts of £100k a week and the back end of their career so were happy to stay at Leicester and they had also played in the championship too previously.

The players who left Burnley in the summer like Berge, Odobert, O’Shea, Amdouni and even the likes of Wout only joined because we were in the Premier League and clearly do not want to play in the championship for various reasons between them (money, and for the likes of Berge just too good for the championship)

That was a massive issue with the VK and Pace strategy with rebuilding a team again. Doing this not only attracts the type of player who thinks he is too good for the Championship but it also royally ****-ed off many of the players who got us promoted from the championship. So that leaves us with a bunch of players and agents instigating moves away and an owner who wants (or probably) needs to sell players financially. A very very different scenario to Leicester (who funnily enough will still probably get relegated and also have a history of being a bit of a financial basket case)

[123EasyasBFC]

And for every Leicester there are many more relegated teams who have a mass exodus of players like we did. Players like Vardy at Leicester were on contracts of £100k a week and the back end of their career so were happy to stay at Leicester and they had also played in the championship too previously.

The players who left Burnley in the summer like Berge, Odobert, O’Shea, Amdouni and even the likes of Wout only joined because we were in the Premier League and clearly do not want to play in the championship for various reasons between them (money, and for the likes of Berge just too good for the championship)

That was a massive issue with the VK and Pace strategy with rebuilding a team again. Doing this not only attracts the type of player who thinks he is too good for the Championship but it also royally ****-ed off many of the players who got us promoted from the championship. So that leaves us with a bunch of players and agents instigating moves away and an owner who wants (or probably) needs to sell players financially. A very very different scenario to Leicester (who funnily enough will still probably get relegated and also have a history of being a bit of a financial basket case)

Yeah it’s an Alan pace and kompany problem, they didn’t sign enough esteve characters who buy into a club and said they will stay even if we get relegated, I’m sure we could of convinced Amdouni to stay but we saw the money and ran and we are going to end up making about 2m profit on him. Odobert is slightly different when you get offered over 30m for a player

[Ric_C]

Hopefully our transfer strategy moving forward involves getting both potential (for future sales down the line) and good characters. Esteve is the shining example, what an absolute diamond we got there.

[TsarBomba]

Why not? I understand the financial element but Leicester did it, they sold two players in Maddison and Barnes and kept the rest of their premier league team today and benefited by winning the league comfortably in the end.

Fulham did it under Marco Silva too.

11 games drawn this season, if we had the quality we had last season we would be absolutely clear at the top

We probably had 3 camps of players upon relegation. Players that were staying, not staying because they were too good, and players that wanted away because they signed for the wrong reasons, ie Premier League football and/or Kompany and not the club.

It’s fanciful to suggest players like Berge and Odobert were ever going to stay. And if players don’t want to be here like Amdouni and Tresor, then see you later.

[warksclaret]

As a bit of a side track, but the Sheffield star saying Sheff Utd have enquired about Michael Keane (cover for the injured Souttar) and BOTH Bereton Diaz and Tom Cannon

[123EasyasBFC]

We probably had 3 camps of players upon relegation. Players that were staying, not staying because they were too good, and players that wanted away because they signed for the wrong reasons, ie Premier League football and/or Kompany and not the club.

It’s fanciful to suggest players like Berge and Odobert were ever going to stay. And if players don’t want to be here like Amdouni and Tresor, then see you later.

It’s not fanciful to suggest Berge would stay, he did it at sheff united but the point is to replace quality with with quantity, for how good Laurent has been for us, in these tight 0-0 games we don’t have anyone in the middle of the pitch who can play a killer pass. Cullen keeps us ticking along but we need that player next to him that can play those killer passes through the lines

[AfloatinClaret]

It could be Shelvey is option 1 maybe Armstrong is the alternate.

Or the Armstrong link is to give Shelvey and his Agent food for thought during salary/contract negotiations?

[AfloatinClaret]

Yeah it’s an Alan pace and kompany problem, they didn’t sign enough esteve characters who buy into a club and said they will stay even if we get relegated, I’m sure we could of convinced Amdouni to stay...

I think we're all coming to realise the club's shortcomings in their transfer strategies. Why oh why can't the club spend a few quid on employing 123Easy and get him to vet players and negotiate contracts? There'd be no wrong uns then, he'd get it right every time... A legend in his own lunchtime.

[123EasyasBFC]

I think we're all coming to realise the club's shortcomings in their transfer strategies. Why oh why can't the club spend a few quid on employing 123Easy and get him to vet players and negotiate contracts? There'd be no wrong uns then, he'd get it right every time... A legend in his own lunchtime.

Alan pace made a massive point in MTB about doing personality analysis on players but it all comes back to Alan pace, he let Kompany control everything so he has probably backed down to players and agents to, your final comment legend in his own lunchtime is pretty pathetic

[Blyclaret]

Or the Armstrong link is to give Shelvey and his Agent food for thought during salary/contract negotiations?

I do believe SP trying to sign a player that can deliver that killer pass

[warksclaret]

I think we're all coming to realise the club's shortcomings in their transfer strategies. Why oh why can't the club spend a few quid on employing 123Easy and get him to vet players and negotiate contracts? There'd be no wrong uns then, he'd get it right every time... A legend in his own lunchtime.

And the Esteve's of course grow on trees and are abundant

[alwaysaclaret]

It’s not fanciful to suggest Berge would stay, he did it at sheff united but the point is to replace quality with with quantity, for how good Laurent has been for us, in these tight 0-0 games we don’t have anyone in the middle of the pitch who can play a killer pass. Cullen keeps us ticking along but we need that player next to him that can play those killer passes through the lines

We also need someone switched on enough with the desire to get on the end of the killer pass imo.

[123EasyasBFC]

We also need someone switched on enough with the desire to get on the end of the killer pass imo.

Oh yes we 100% do, Flemming and foster stood still in the box on Friday night, it was Humphreys moving getting on the end of everything

[Blyclaret]

We also need someone switched on enough with the desire to get on the end of the killer pass imo.

I think Shelvey can play that pass. But it depends on which Jonjo we sign. The interested one or the disinterested one.

[Big Vinny K]

It’s not fanciful to suggest Berge would stay, he did it at sheff united but the point is to replace quality with with quantity, for how good Laurent has been for us, in these tight 0-0 games we don’t have anyone in the middle of the pitch who can play a killer pass. Cullen keeps us ticking along but we need that player next to him that can play those killer passes through the lines

Of course it’s fanciful….because he did leave. And now he is a regular in a top 10 EPL side having a fantastic season.
He stayed at Sheffield United yes…but he was younger.

He was linked with moving to some big clubs at the time I remember - Liverpool being one. But for whatever reason he did not move - which does not mean he would not have done if a firm offer would have materialised.

Berge signed for Burnley because we were in the Premier League and guess he thought he had more chance of staying up with us than Sheff United. A player of his quality (which he showed consistently last season in an awful team) was never going to go back to the championship.

It’s not Burnley FC instigating these deals - it’s the players and their agents. We can’t complain - it’s exactly what we and all other clubs do when buying players.

[Woodleyclaret]

Harrison Reed at Fulham ?

[Raconteur]

It’s not fanciful to suggest Berge would stay, he did it at sheff united but the point is to replace quality with with quantity, for how good Laurent has been for us, in these tight 0-0 games we don’t have anyone in the middle of the pitch who can play a killer pass. Cullen keeps us ticking along but we need that player next to him that can play those killer passes through the lines

I don't know how true it was but from what I was told , it was Berge who was the player in question when it was said that an agent was on the phone straight after the Spurs game . This was due to him spending 2 seasons in the Championship with Sheffield United and he wasn't going to do it again.

The injury he had all pre season until he joined Fulham said it all for me

[Stayingup]

Media is determined to sell Trafford to Newcastle. In fact according to some (fake news) reports it's a done deal.

[Oldparkwood]

Any transfer rumours?

[jojomk1]

Louie Barry looks to be going to Celtic - tenuous links to us a while back

[jojomk1]

Any transfer rumours?

Any difference between bull from the likes of Nixon and any thoughts from fans on here ?
Indeed some of the names mentioned by fans are accompanied with extracts from news items

[123EasyasBFC]

The only actually news since we signed Sonne is

Whittaker
Shelvey
Manning
Armstrong

[Tricky Trevor]

we don’t have anyone in the middle of the pitch who can play a killer pass.

The killer pass requires pace and mobility up top, apart from Fosters pace, we have neither.

What we desperately need is a ball carrier that can make opposition back 4 players make a decision to stick or twist. All this get it out to the wings has gone on all season and is pointless if we don’t get bodies in the box. The ball carrier allows players to get up with him so he has the option to play in the striker OR play it wide when the opposition FBs have come narrow and we now have more men up.
Ross Barkley is a perfect example and a fit Aaron Ramsey can do it.

[Blyclaret]

The killer pass requires pace and mobility up top, apart from Fosters pace, we have neither.

What we desperately need is a ball carrier that can make opposition back 4 players make a decision to stick or twist. All this get it out to the wings has gone on all season and is pointless if we don’t get bodies in the box. The ball carrier allows players to get up with him so he has the option to play in the striker OR play it wide when the opposition FBs have come narrow and we now have more men up.
Ross Barkley is a perfect example and a fit Aaron Ramsey can do it.

I would say Shelvey has thst killer pass in him

[Quicknick]

We are being linked with too many 30+ players.
Bringing on our 'new' striker against Sunderland really showed the massive lack of attacking talent at the club.

I am starting to worry.

And the defence is the opposite of under Kompany. I'm not worrying at all.

[Stockbrokerbelt]

The only thing we know is that we’re not after Manning according to Parker.

[Hanoverusaclaret]

As a bit of a side track, but the Sheffield star saying Sheff Utd have enquired about Michael Keane (cover for the injured Souttar) and BOTH Bereton Diaz and Tom Cannon

I saw this too. Two very good forwards who should be (and possibly are) on our radar. For all the comments about there not being players out there to make a difference, there are obviously players out there that could help us hugely. If these two both go to the Blades, I'd be worried. That is the big missing link for them too. It would improve them massively. We desperately need another proper goalscoring forward.

[Silkyskills1]

'another proper goalscoring forward'

???

[Hanoverusaclaret]

'another proper goalscoring forward'

???

Are you missing something? We don't score enough goals (8 nil-nil games already and counting). We desperately need a goalscorer. It isn't that hard to understand.

[ksrclaret]

'another proper goalscoring forward'

???

What is it you’re pretending not to understand this time Silky?

[Cooclaret]

Media is determined to sell Trafford to Newcastle. In fact according to some (fake news) reports it's a done deal.

From what I’ve been told, and this was as early as last year. JT knows where his next move is going to be. It’s back to City. The only thing that has been in the air is when. I can see that, but I can also see Newcastle being a good option with Howe likely to be England manager <10 years.

He will be the #1 at the next World Cup for England.

Apart from hearing that we’ve told Spurs to go away about ME, there’s slim pickings bout players.

[summitclaret]

Very impressed wirh Gassama for Sheff W today against DL. He runs at defenders with good pace and can dribble.