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Esteve

Post by Goliath » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:44 pm

There'll be a lot of negativity after that 2nd half but Esteve really is something special. I doubt he even broke a sweat it was that easy for him.

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Re: Esteve

Post by Claret Alfie » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:45 pm

He makes Baresi look like Grant Hanley
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Re: Esteve

Post by gandhisflipflop » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:46 pm

I keep saying he’s the best cb I’ve ever seen play for us

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Re: Esteve

Post by IPAclaret » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:47 pm

Special talent, best player outside the prem. Nothing more to be said.

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Re: Esteve

Post by dandeclaret » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:49 pm

There shouldn’t be much negativity….. solid win.

Esteve is a rolls Royce at this level.
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Re: Esteve

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:50 pm

So glad we kept hold of him and CJ in the window.
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Re: Esteve

Post by Tinribs » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:52 pm

Why negativity just beat a dude that’s gone 9 unbeaten and with a bit more composure in front of goal would have been 4 or 5
Great night UTC
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Re: Esteve

Post by 4:20 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:54 pm

He's an unreal talent, has all the potential to go to the very top of the game. CJ too was superb tonight as well. The best pairing I've seen at this level.
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Re: Esteve

Post by MDWat » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:56 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:46 pm
I keep saying he’s the best cb I’ve ever seen play for us
Yep, he’s absolutely brilliant. Going all the way to the top.

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Re: Esteve

Post by billyhamilton82 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:56 pm

Goliath wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:44 pm
There'll be a lot of negativity after that 2nd half but Esteve really is something special. I doubt he even broke a sweat it was that easy for him.
BOTH centre halves were superb
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Re: Esteve

Post by burnley007 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:58 pm

Esteve is a phenomenal defender.

CJ could probably play on the wing and do a heck of a lot better than Sarmiento!

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Re: Esteve

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:59 pm

Loved the way the NOW/Sky commentator got his french accent in the wrong place (and I guess the wrong direction) and mis-pronounced his name in the first half. Obviously, someone put him straight at half-time and it was pronounced correctly after half-time.

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Re: Esteve

Post by chekhov » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:01 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:59 pm
Loved the way the NOW/Sky commentator got his french accent in the wrong place (and I guess the wrong direction) and mis-pronounced his name in the first half. Obviously, someone put him straight at half-time and it was pronounced correctly after half-time.

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Estevé?
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Re: Esteve

Post by warksclaret » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:01 pm

I have seen some fantastic centre halves for Burnley in over 60 years of supporting them, but maybe he is the calmest I have seen under pressure

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Re: Esteve

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:05 pm

chekhov wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:01 pm
Estevé?
That's how Sky had it.

Maxime Estève is his name.
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Re: Esteve

Post by Nonayforever » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:06 pm

He reads the game so well, it gives him that extra yard.
He's going to be a good PL player.

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Re: Esteve

Post by Pearcey » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:06 pm

He certainly looks top class at this level. Will be interesting to see how he fairs in the prem. I’m not counting his half season there before as the defence were hung out to dry by the way we were set up.

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Re: Esteve

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:08 pm

As a defender esteve is unbelievable but if a premier league club want a ball playing cb then esteve isn’t that player
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Re: Esteve

Post by dvalley69 » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:08 pm

If he can improve his passing range then he'll easily become a top player in the Prem because, as already said, he reads the game so well, which gives him that extra yard. His long range passing can be a bit suspect at times though.

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Re: Esteve

Post by RalphCoatesComb » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:26 pm

To be fair, it was only Oxford. But, he is something special at this level.

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Re: Esteve

Post by Murger » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:37 pm

Pisses this league.

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Re: Esteve

Post by chekhov » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:44 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:05 pm
That's how Sky had it.

Maxime Estève is his name.
Accent grave, pronounced like ‘e’ in egg.
Lucas Digne is one the commentators also get wrong because the g and n together mean the e is pronounced like the er ending in lots of English words.
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Re: Esteve

Post by Paul Waine » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:46 pm

chekhov wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:44 pm
Accent grave, pronounced like ‘e’ in egg.
Lucas Digne is one the commentators also get wrong because the g and n together mean the e is pronounced like the er ending in lots of English words.
Merci.
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Re: Esteve

Post by burnleymik » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:47 pm

Absolutely imperious. What a player he is for us.

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Re: Esteve

Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:04 pm

What he’s good at, he’s very good at. Excellent, in fact. An absolutely brilliant defender at this level.

His passing, however, is a little suspect. He’s fine when he keeps it simple. His longer distribution is actually pretty poor. But hopefully this will improve.

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Re: Esteve

Post by pauliopaulio » Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:09 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:05 pm
That's how Sky had it.

Maxime Estève is his name.
And he’ll always be Steeeeeeeve whilst he’s at Burnley. Had a great game

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Re: Esteve

Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:19 am

Tremendous

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Re: Esteve

Post by Swizzlestick » Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:28 am

Absolutely outstanding yet again.

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Re: Esteve

Post by Quicknick » Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:25 am

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:04 pm
What he’s good at, he’s very good at. Excellent, in fact. An absolutely brilliant defender at this level.

His passing, however, is a little suspect. He’s fine when he keeps it simple. His longer distribution is actually pretty poor. But hopefully this will improve.
But if his long-range passing doesn't improve, maybe we'll keep him longer.

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Re: Esteve

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:10 am

Staggeringly good.
CJER out of position? “I’ll have a wander over and take care of that”
Left back gets beat? “It’s ok I’ve got it”
Trafford gets caught out? “I’ve got that tackle, and the follow up, you guys just reset”


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Re: Esteve

Post by Bowclaret » Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:46 am

Such a good well mannered lad also which goes a long way in my book.

He’s going right to the very top and I would say a ready made replacement for Virgil at Liverpool in time.

His partnership with CJ is the best I have seen at Burnley in over 50 years - they are awesome together AND, will only get better.

Both pure class - and !!!!! backed up by the “team”

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Re: Esteve

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:15 am

Think some people might be getting a bit carried away. Michael Keane looked outstanding at this level, the step up is absolutely huge.

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Re: Esteve

Post by NottsClaret » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:24 am

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:15 am
Think some people might be getting a bit carried away. Michael Keane looked outstanding at this level, the step up is absolutely huge.
To be fair, Keane did go on to play over 250 times in the Prem and 12 times for England.

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Re: Esteve

Post by mdd2 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:32 am

Are we forgetting Tarks and Mee who managed 5 yrs together in the top flight?

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Re: Esteve

Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:33 am

He’s got a wonderful Rolls Royce smoothness about him , allied to excellent technique. Reminds me a little of the young Michael Keane ( though MK had some lovely long passes in his game too) Hopefully we hang onto him , but money , bloody good money will surely talk .

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Re: Esteve

Post by gandhisflipflop » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:42 am

People judging defenders for their passing ability is exactly what is wrong with the game. This isn’t a critique of posters I understand what they say but a defenders job is to defend and esteve does that superbly well. It’s about time football got back to basics as defending is just as good an art as attacking. It’s the same with goalkeepers. If those at the very top don’t want to look at actual good defenders, then that’s their loss.

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Re: Esteve

Post by MDWat » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:46 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:42 am
People judging defenders for their passing ability is exactly what is wrong with the game. This isn’t a critique of posters I understand what they say but a defenders job is to defend and esteve does that superbly well. It’s about time football got back to basics as defending is just as good an art as attacking. It’s the same with goalkeepers. If those at the very top don’t want to look at actual good defenders, then that’s their loss.
I agree entirely. When it comes to actual defending, Esteve is streets ahead of everyone in this league. His reading of the game is magnificent, his recovery pace is outstanding, he’s big and strong in the tackle. Could perhaps be marginally stronger in the air but it never visibly appears to be a weakness.
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Re: Esteve

Post by MDWat » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:47 am

mdd2 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:32 am
Are we forgetting Tarks and Mee who managed 5 yrs together in the top flight?
No bigger fan of Tarkowski than me but I think Esteve is better.

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Re: Esteve

Post by willsclarets » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:50 am

The pair of CBs compliment each other perfectly. Egan Riley has a better range of passing and is better carrying the ball. Esteve is just a mountain you cannot get around, under or over.

He's more of a traditional centre back in that sense. He's phenomenal at defending and sticks to it. It's refreshing tbh to see someone master one aspect of the game so well. In the modern game there's a bit of a mush of qualities from 1-11. When you see a defender who just defends perfectly or a striker who's an out an out predator (also rare) it's great to see

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Re: Esteve

Post by Claret53 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:53 am

He has a fantastic ability to read danger and be in the right place at the right time. It's almost uncanny.
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Re: Esteve

Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:02 am

Claret53 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:53 am
He has a fantastic ability to read danger and be in the right place at the right time. It's almost uncanny.
Bobby Moore was a master at that.
Not saying he's that standard, but still...

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Re: Esteve

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:08 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:08 pm
As a defender esteve is unbelievable but if a premier league club want a ball playing cb then esteve isn’t that player
Yep you nailed it with this.

He’s a truly excellent defender, not sure he’s going to the top as others suggest purely down to his ability on the ball. I actually think hes a contributing factor as to why some of our play on the ball is so poor, because he doesn’t have the ability to break the lines (like Egan Riley)

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Re: Esteve

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:16 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:24 am
To be fair, Keane did go on to play over 250 times in the Prem and 12 times for England.
Yeah, i'm sure Esteve will go on to have a good career in the Prem, but talk of him playing for the big boys is a bit premature yet.

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Re: Esteve

Post by nonayclaret » Wed Feb 05, 2025 5:07 pm

STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE!

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Re: Esteve

Post by Rumpelstiltskin » Wed Feb 05, 2025 5:23 pm

Who spotted him and is responsible for him arriving at Turf Moor ? Good job !

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Re: Esteve

Post by Spijed » Wed Feb 05, 2025 5:29 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 9:42 am
People judging defenders for their passing ability is exactly what is wrong with the game. This isn’t a critique of posters I understand what they say but a defenders job is to defend and esteve does that superbly well. It’s about time football got back to basics as defending is just as good an art as attacking. It’s the same with goalkeepers. If those at the very top don’t want to look at actual good defenders, then that’s their loss.
Exactly.

There's no player currently in the Prem that comes close to either John Terry or Rio Ferdinand in terms of defending.
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Re: Esteve

Post by BleedingClaret » Wed Feb 05, 2025 5:59 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 4:16 pm
Yeah, i'm sure Esteve will go on to have a good career in the Prem, but talk of him playing for the big boys is a bit premature yet.
Sadly I don’t think it is
Pace, strength, height, reads the ball, great temperament & brave
He got done once this season, not before or since. It’s so rare it sticks in my mind
We shouldn’t accept less than 40 mil when the time comes, all too soon I reckon
I don’t think sadly that finances will allow us to keep him even if we do go up.

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Re: Esteve

Post by BleedingClaret » Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:02 pm

Reminds me of Van de Ven

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Re: Esteve

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Feb 05, 2025 6:14 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:08 pm
Yep you nailed it with this.

He’s a truly excellent defender, not sure he’s going to the top as others suggest purely down to his ability on the ball. I actually think hes a contributing factor as to why some of our play on the ball is so poor, because he doesn’t have the ability to break the lines (like Egan Riley)
It’s really tough to criticise him because his actual defending is outstanding but I’ve watched him very closely last few games and other than Plymouth that was easy, his overall ball playing has been pretty average at best, he tries tje diagonal and it doesn’t come off much at all

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Re: Esteve

Post by Exeterclaret » Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:08 pm

I actually think he's quite similar to Keane. Both good defenders with a tall lanky physique and a turn of pace but neither are particularly good on the ball. Remember Keane hoofing it forward a lot without a great deal of direction, partially may have been direction from our erstwhile incumbent manger though!

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