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Draws or Wins

Post by Stonehouse » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:43 pm

13 games to go
7 draws and 6 wins = 25 points
10 wins and 3 defeats = 30 points
The first option gives us 90 points which isn’t enough
Take the breaks and go for it gives us 95 points.
Coventry are in 7th and at the present rate might get 71 points ,we’re near enough guaranteed the play offs .Stop playing like we’re scared of losing,and we’ve more chance of 2nd spot.
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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:45 pm

Parker won’t. Just said on another thread he needs to take the shackles off now. Start Edwards and take him off when he’s tired after an hour. He did more in 20 mins than Anyone else did in 90. Benson too. Shelvley for a bit of class on the ball. We can all see it but parker can’t

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by dougcollins » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:51 pm

I wonder how he thinks we get through the playoffs?

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:51 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:45 pm
Parker won’t. Just said on another thread he needs to take the shackles off now. Start Edwards and take him off when he’s tired after an hour. He did more in 20 mins than Anyone else did in 90. Benson too. Shelvley for a bit of class on the ball. We can all see it but parker can’t
You really think a successful football manager can’t see things that those in the stands can? Seriously?

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:52 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:51 pm
You really think a successful football manager can’t see things that those in the stands can? Seriously?
He’s doing his best to make me believe this yes.
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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:53 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:45 pm
Parker won’t. Just said on another thread he needs to take the shackles off now. Start Edwards and take him off when he’s tired after an hour. He did more in 20 mins than Anyone else did in 90. Benson too. Shelvley for a bit of class on the ball. We can all see it but parker can’t
Of course he's going to start his marquee signing. Christ almighty, do you think he's stupid? The lad is clearly getting up to match fitness.

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:53 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:52 pm
He’s doing his best to make me believe this yes.
Then I think you must be deluded.
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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:54 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:53 pm
Then I think you must be deluded.
Maybe I am. Watching this team does strange things to us

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Stonehouse » Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:00 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:51 pm
I wonder how he thinks we get through the playoffs?
Penalties 😱
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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Stonehouse » Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:03 pm

Obviously not as smart as SP ,but scoring early on definitely makes us play better as teams have to open up so why not start off with the most attacking team as we did midweek get a couple of goals and then manage the game out ,simples.

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:04 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:03 pm
Obviously not as smart as SP ,but scoring early on definitely makes us play better as teams have to open up so why not start off with the most attacking team as we did midweek get a couple of goals and then manage the game out ,simples.
Careful you can’t have an opinion without someone saying you’re deluded
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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:04 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:03 pm
Obviously not as smart as SP ,but scoring early on definitely makes us play better as teams have to open up so why not start off with the most attacking team as we did midweek get a couple of goals and then manage the game out ,simples.
We started with the same lineup against PNE as we did midweek.

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by summitclaret » Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:06 pm

Time for a different approach. With 5 subs and our squad, we can start Edwards and Shelvey for the first half. Get in front and then control games with subs.
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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Stonehouse » Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:20 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:04 pm
We started with the same lineup against PNE as we did midweek.
Agreed ,but it would be interesting to know the heat map of Roberts yesterday compared with mid-week ,it’s not just about picking an attacking team but how you set them up as well.

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by RVclaret » Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:26 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:20 pm
Agreed ,but it would be interesting to know the heat map of Roberts yesterday compared with mid-week ,it’s not just about picking an attacking team but how you set them up as well.
Top is v Preston, bottom v Hull.

Keep in mind the maps are upside down due to one being home and the other away.
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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:29 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:20 pm
Agreed ,but it would be interesting to know the heat map of Roberts yesterday compared with mid-week ,it’s not just about picking an attacking team but how you set them up as well.
Yes, it was noticeable that Roberts barely left our half yesterday, whereas his clever movement on Wednesday played a big part in our good performance. Whilst Edwards appears to be an obvious improvement, the rest is as much down to the approach than the personnel in my opinion. Some of our best performances this season have come when we’ve had less players you would consider to be attacking on the field.

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:57 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:20 pm
Agreed ,but it would be interesting to know the heat map of Roberts yesterday compared with mid-week ,it’s not just about picking an attacking team but how you set them up as well.
I think Preston's set up was far better than our mid week opponents and this dictated to a good degree how effective Robert's movement was yesterday
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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Stonehouse » Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:35 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:26 pm
Top is v Preston, bottom v Hull.

Keep in mind the maps are upside down due to one being home and the other away.
That’s brilliant ,whether through choice or quality of opposition the way that we play with Roberts in a free role certainly makes a difference and when VK was coach it was even more noticeable.

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:38 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 5:57 pm
I think Preston's set up was far better than our mid week opponents and this dictated to a good degree how effective Robert's movement was yesterday

Hull had a real go, and lost. Preston were a little more cautious, combative if you like.

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:42 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:51 pm
You really think a successful football manager can’t see things that those in the stands can? Seriously?
Given what we saw with Kompany last season I will say no

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Stonehouse » Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:35 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:42 pm
Given what we saw with Kompany last season I will say no
Hard to see anything if your cloaked in ego

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by JR1882 » Sun Feb 16, 2025 7:43 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:43 pm
13 games to go
7 draws and 6 wins = 25 points
10 wins and 3 defeats = 30 points
The first option gives us 90 points which isn’t enough
Take the breaks and go for it gives us 95 points.
Coventry are in 7th and at the present rate might get 71 points ,we’re near enough guaranteed the play offs .Stop playing like we’re scared of losing,and we’ve more chance of 2nd spot.
Looking at who we have left to play there’s no way you’d fancy us to loose 3 games with the handbrake broken let alone off. We have the most favourable run in.

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by dsr » Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:28 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 6:38 pm
Hull had a real go, and lost. Preston were a little more cautious, combative if you like.
I'm sure some teams have noticed that if you they are happy to settle for a 0-0 draw against Burnley, they will get it. Only if they try to win are they likely to lose.

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Ric_C » Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:16 am

Looking at the fixtures - 9 wins and 4 draws is fully achievable. I think we will beat Blades at home as well.

That gives us 96 points. Hopefully that will be enough (but it might not be)

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Quicknick » Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:34 am

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 12:45 pm
Parker won’t. Just said on another thread he needs to take the shackles off now. Start Edwards and take him off when he’s tired after an hour. He did more in 20 mins than Anyone else did in 90. Benson too. Shelvley for a bit of class on the ball. We can all see it but parker can’t
How do you know Parker can't see this?

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:22 am

Quicknick wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:34 am
How do you know Parker can't see this?
We are in feb and he’s barely set up to batter a team

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by Quicknick » Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:26 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2025 11:22 am
We are in feb and he’s barely set up to batter a team
Plymouth away?

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:02 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:26 pm
Plymouth away?
Luton , Cardiff, Plymouth…. 3 out of 33. Hence the term barely happens

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Re: Draws or Wins

Post by CoolClaret » Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:55 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Feb 16, 2025 1:26 pm
Top is v Preston, bottom v Hull.

Keep in mind the maps are upside down due to one being home and the other away.
Great isn't it, when undeniable evidence just kills lazy narratives.

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