Koleosho

[evensteadiereddie]

Not a happy bunny at full time, more or less heading straight to the dressing room and no acknowledgement of the applause from the CFS tunnel corner.
Frustrated at not getting more minutes?

[quoonbeatz]

He was pissy with Cullen who must have said something about him giving the ball away right at the death.

[evensteadiereddie]

I did wonder. Not a good look while the rest of the squad are celebrating, however lamely.

[Overseascricketer]

A baffling sub at that time. He’s hardly known for his defensive ability is he? I’d much rather see Redmond on the bench until the end of the season.

£30 million seems a long time ago now

[Ric_C]

Came on, did a massive air kick, then tried to pass the ball back to Roberts and underhit it. The kid has zero confidence atm and shouldn't be anywhere near even the bench. I agree with the above, Redmond would be a much more cooler head at this stage of the season.

[jrgbfc]

Becoming a bit of a forgotten man. A move this summer might be best for both parties.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I noticed he was getting a rollicking from Egan-Reilly at full time.

[Rileybobs]

It was probably not a nice few minutes for him. Slices a clearance, under hits a pass leading to Bristol City’s only chance of the game and the gets bollocked by his teammates. But that’s football. I’m sure the players have sorted it out.

Koleosho’s off the ball work has actually improved and he often gives us good fresh legs and aggression when he comes on. But at such a late stage yesterday with the game still in a vulnerable state it was an unnecessary substitution.

[claretspice]

A baffling sub at that time. He’s hardly known for his defensive ability is he? I’d much rather see Redmond on the bench until the end of the season.

£30 million seems a long time ago now

As it happens I think he came on specifically because he's a lot better defensively than Edwards and indeed is probably more robust defensively than any of our other natural wide players. He's very underrated in that respect.

I wouldn't read much into the reaction of a young kid at full time and he'll come back a better player for a tough experience this campaign. Still a very young and inexperienced lad who has had s significant injury set back in his short career.

[beddie]

If I was his Father he’d be getting a good bollocking. His attitude is all wrong. When you’re not starting regularly you have to buckle down, work hard in training and show the Manager you are ready, importantly support your teammates, you’re all in this together. If we can go up I’d move him on. Players with attitudes are no good to anyone.

[claretspice]

If I was his Father he’d be getting a good bollocking. His attitude is all wrong. When you’re not starting regularly you have to buckle down, work hard in training and show the Manager you are ready, importantly support your teammates, you’re all in this together. If we can go up I’d move him on. Players with attitudes are no good to anyone.

I don't think there's any evidence he has a bad attitude at all.

[Tricky Trevor]

I can’t remember the last time he had the ball in control. He either overhits it, when dribbling, or underhits it, when passing. He just has the look of a player that wants out. Early season, after his long absence, I had every sympathy for him but this has gone beyond that and he isn’t worth a spot on the bench currently.

[beddie]

I don't think there's any evidence he has a bad attitude at all.

You obviously didn’t see him at the end yesterday, his demeanour was awful. I hope Parker got stuck into him.

[claretspice]

You obviously didn’t see him at the end yesterday, his demeanour was awful. I hope Parker got stuck into him.

Kid that's had a very brief appearance that hasn't gone well and doesn't feel he's contributed feels a bit on the margins of a big victory, so disappears down the tunnel quickly. Really not a big deal and certainly not any sort of evidence of an attitude problem if we're keeping stuff in proportion. My guess is Parker put an arm round him and had a gentle word to pump his tyres up.

[CoolClaret]

This is a bit harsh, but I feel he lacks many of the prerequisites you'd expect a professional player in the top two leagues of England to have.

He had a bit of a purple patch when he was an unknown quantity but for me, flattered to deceive.
Nearly cost us the game yesterday and rightfully got b0llocked. I'm not sure where he goes from here; his career really could go one of two ways.

[warksclaret]

Lets hope he gets over it in the next 6 days, as he is still young. If not we know he is not irreplaceable. He had a lot of game time early in the season, but to be honest I only remember him for his Leeds great solo goal. Luckily in Parker we have someone who will know how to keep the player''s feet on the ground

[Colburn_Claret]

A baffling sub at that time. He’s hardly known for his defensive ability is he? I’d much rather see Redmond on the bench until the end of the season.

£30 million seems a long time ago now

I think Koleosho was excellent early season, at the defensive side. Worked his socks off.

Injuries and the run we are on without him would make any pro blue, I'm sure he will be fine back in the dressing room.

[Silkyskills1]

I think Koleosho was excellent early season, at the defensive side. Worked his socks off.

Injuries and the run we are on without him would make any pro blue, I'm sure he will be fine back in the dressing room.

Have to disagree with you there, Colburn Claret. Often very clumsy when called upon to help defensiveley and prone to giving away unnecessary free kicks. Didn't understand why he came on yesterday( unless being fast meant he could get the written message to Josh Cullen before anyone else). I expected Worrall to come on but then again I'm not the manager.

[Big Vinny K]

He’s still young but I think he has gone backwards this season.
The under hit pass at the end was not great but anybody who has played football at any level knows that coming on for 5 minutes at the end is not easy if a game is tight as you do not get the luxury of feeling yourself into a game and often you are struggling to get a touch. Hannibal came on for a bit longer and he was running round like a madman but he hardly touched the ball either.

Koleosho could have cost us the game at the end but I think Foster would have been equally (if not more) to blame. He had the perfect opportunity with seconds left just hit the ball into the corner and kill the game and instead he stupidly tried to take their players on and gave the ball away in his own half.

Would not be making too much of koleosho going off in a huff. It’s not nice getting so few minutes and then getting a rollocking from a couple of senior players in front of your own crowd especially when as said second before Foster did not get the same treatment. Hannibal has a face like thunder pretty much every time he gets substituted early. It’s just the way some players are. Means nothing and if they had a bad attitude in training, off the pitch etc then I don’t think they would last long under Parker.

Last thing on koleosho is we need to remember he has pretty much zero experience at any kind of decent level when we picked him up. He’s had a bad injury too and at still a very young age he’s got a lot to learn. But if we lose him then it’s no big loss financially especially if we pick Edwards up for a decent fee as currently he is very much the developed winger that koleosho strives to be in a few years and might never get there.

[jedi_master]

If we’re successful this season I think we should loan Koleosho out to either a top Championship side or abroad with the guarantee of playing every week. He needs to rebuild his confidence and it could be a make or break opportunity to show that he is good enough for us long term. Hes still only 20 I think so there’s absolutely no reason to make permanent decisions on him this summer.

[Vegas Claret]

Could do with a loan in the MLS

[Woodleyclaret]

The guy had 5 mins give him a break
Luca needs game time with us not loaned out
He's 20 and a major player for us

[Newcastleclaret93]

Just not sure I can see it Woodley

He’s clearly an excellent athlete but I have had major doubts about his technical ability all season.

He’s got to be getting regular game time somewhere to develop his talent. So if that’s a drop down to the under 23s or a loan out it has to happen sooner rather than later. Because right now he’s not going to feature regularly enough (especially if promoted)

[Row x]

A baffling sub at that time. He’s hardly known for his defensive ability is he? I’d much rather see Redmond on the bench until the end of the season.

£30 million seems a long time ago now

He's rather well known for his defensive skills

[TsarBomba]

If we’re successful this season I think we should loan Koleosho out to either a top Championship side or abroad with the guarantee of playing every week. He needs to rebuild his confidence and it could be a make or break opportunity to show that he is good enough for us long term. Hes still only 20 I think so there’s absolutely no reason to make permanent decisions on him this summer.

I don’t think a loan to top Championship side would produce any different performances from what we’ve seen this season. It would be more low block and lack of space in behind.

He does struggle with the technical side, but in the Premier League, the likelihood of playing counter attacking football with space in behind should suit him better.

The goal away at Forest when he raced to the byline and cut it back for Amdouni to score should be his blueprint. Nice and simple.

[Jakubs Tash]

As it happens I think he came on specifically because he's a lot better defensively than Edwards and indeed is probably more robust defensively than any of our other natural wide players. He's very underrated in that respect.

Strange take. Koleosho is a clear liability when defending. Constantly gives away cheap free kicks and gets caught out. Just because he runs fast and has the look of putting defensive effort in doesn’t fool some.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Koleosho is still very inexperienced in terms of first team games and is a young lad. With the right nurturing and coaching he could well be brilliant, but at the moment he needs to learn when to slow it down before trying to execute the pass, cross, shot or whatever it may be.

He is very sloppy with the ball which I think could be tidied up by trying not to go hypersonic as soon as it leaves his foot , having said that his pace is his major asset so he needs to learn how to use it effectively .

Teams is this division will not play a high line when he’s in the side for that very reason, and his debut season highlighted how much he frightened defenders in the few games he played.

Give the lad a chance he’s still new to the game in the grand scheme of things .

[FCBurnley]

He looked ok to me at Leeds ! How say you DA ?

[willsclarets]

A permanent transfer away would be the last thing on my mind. His value is about as low as its been since he arrived, but he's not turned into a flop. He made some top defenders in the Premier league look pretty daft at times, and he's got a lot of talent for his age. He'll be back.

[Devils_Advocate]

Koleosho has a lot more technical ability than people give him credit for. His first touch is excellent but in a different and subtler way than Anthony. Koleosho often takes his first touch on the move creating space and he's always looking for a quick pass and move.

In Kompany's team this worked really well as we played a fast one touch pass and move one style which played to his strengths. In Parkers set up we tend to probe more and get it out to the wide player in a more static position and then look for them to create something.

Koleosho struggled with this and where he didn't have the players and movement around him he ended up just running into players and giving the ball away. Koleosho certainly needs to develop and improve his game in his weak areas but I would say out of our current squad he has one of the highest ceilings and probably one of the most likeliest players to make the step up if we get promoted

[fidelcastro]

Koleosho certainly needs to develop and improve his game in his weak areas but I would say out of our current squad he has one of the highest ceilings and probably one of the most likeliest players to make the step up if we get promoted

Absolute garbage, but you probably know that.

[CoolClaret]

Koleosho has a lot more technical ability than people give him credit for. His first touch is excellent but in a different and subtler way than Anthony. Koleosho often takes his first touch on the move creating space and he's always looking for a quick pass and move.

In Kompany's team this worked really well as we played a fast one touch pass and move one style which played to his strengths. In Parkers set up we tend to probe more and get it out to the wide player in a more static position and then look for them to create something.

Koleosho struggled with this and where he didn't have the players and movement around him he ended up just running into players and giving the ball away. Koleosho certainly needs to develop and improve his game in his weak areas but I would say out of our current squad he has one of the highest ceilings and probably one of the most likeliest players to make the step up if we get promoted

Koleosho received the balls in static positions because he doesn't have the footballing IQ of Anthony or Edwards, and so he places himself in cul-de-sacs.

Edwards nearly has the best assist on the Turf on Saturday since Fabregas' to Schürle back in 2014, it was about as one touch as you could hope for.

Oh and Brownhill's goal at home against Watford (see below) is the dictionary definition of 'one-touch football'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x74ZccwtB-8

[SirBob]

There’s definitely a player in there. Unfortunately I don’t think he suits Parker’s style of play and people underestimate how important it is to players and their development.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, I’d snap anyone’s hands off for 30m now, same as foster when we nearly got 21m was it off Ipswich?

I have a feeling these twos careers will end the same way with us as they did with Zaroury.. a loan away to some mediocre European team with a half decent fee, if not this summer then next.

[Devils_Advocate]

Koleosho received the balls in static positions because he doesn't have the footballing IQ of Anthony or Edwards, and so he places himself in cul-de-sacs.

Koleosho was nearly always on the move when he received the ball when he was playing at the start of the season and countless times he laid it off, moved into space and never got the return pass because some of the players weren't on his wavelength and we dont attack in numbers like we did under Kompany.

There's not a right or wrong way and if we go up it doesn't matter but if you think the football we play under Parker is as fast and fluid as two years ago you're having a laugh. Pointing to specific scenarios isnt proof of a pattern of play and would be like me giving you an example of Esteve booting it forward as proof we're a long ball team

[ClaretTony]

He was pissy with Cullen who must have said something about him giving the ball away right at the death.

He gave the ball away that led to them getting that shot in right at the end.

[CoolClaret]

Koleosho was nearly always on the move when he received the ball when he was playing at the start of the season and countless times he laid it off, moved into space and never got the return pass because some of the players weren't on his wavelength and we dont attack in numbers like we did under Kompany.

There's not a right or wrong way and if we go up it doesn't matter but if you think the football we play under Parker is as fast and fluid as two years ago you're having a laugh. Pointing to specific scenarios isnt proof of a pattern of play and would be like me giving you an example of Esteve booting it forward as proof we're a long ball team

We vary our play like all good teams do.

We move the ball quickly at times, and at times, we slow it down - we need players that can read a game and know when to stick or twist, not these daft training ground moves up and down the field at all times, which spectacularly failed when put under scrutiny last season.

To suggest that our attacking play is static, and that's the reason why Luca hasn't featured/when he hasn't been able to perform is daft, IMO.

[boatshed bill]

This is a bit harsh, but I feel he lacks many of the prerequisites you'd expect a professional player in the top two leagues of England to have.

He had a bit of a purple patch when he was an unknown quantity but for me, flattered to deceive.
Nearly cost us the game yesterday and rightfully got b0llocked. I'm not sure where he goes from here; his career really could go one of two ways.

If you mean this to be down to this one particular incident I doubt it's really that pivotal.

[Devils_Advocate]

To suggest that our attacking play is static, and that's the reason why Luca hasn't featured/when he hasn't been able to perform is daft, IMO.

You've completely misunderstood me if you are think that a) Im suggesting out attacking play is static and b) that is why Koleosho hasn't featured preformed.

People on here talk about Koleosho like he's a headless chicken and has little technical ability or football intelligence which is nonsense and I was just highlighting areas where I think he excels and why in this seasons set up it doesn't suit him. Unfortunately this messageboard struggles to do nuance and often views topics as very black/white or good/bad

Koleosho has been a disappointment this season and rightly is just a squad player but i think he has the ability to step up a level and show some of the quality we saw in his first season before he got injured.

[FCBurnley]

As I said earlier he was pretty good at DL earlier in the season In fact he has scored more goals against them than they have scored in total against us this season !!

[CoolClaret]

If you mean this to be down to this one particular incident I doubt it's really that pivotal.

No, I don't mean it's down to that one particular incident, Bill.

I do believe that as a young player who hadn't played much senior football, he should have been managed better last season, and unfortunately, he ended up having a pretty bad injury.

Some people were hoping/expecting that he'd bounce back this year and show champ fullbacks up and that hasn't really been the case... He still has unrealised potential but needs to be playing football somewhere where he can develop. That's what I mean by he's at a pivotal stage in his development.

[boatshed bill]

No, I don't mean it's down to that one particular incident, Bill.

I do believe that as a young player who hadn't played much senior football, he should have been managed better last season, and unfortunately, he ended up having a pretty bad injury.

Some people were hoping/expecting that he'd bounce back this year and show champ fullbacks up and that hasn't really been the case... He still has unrealised potential but needs to be playing football somewhere where he can develop. That's what I mean by he's at a pivotal stage in his development.

He's a real trier. I'm sure he will develop in to a very good footballer with BFC; if not EPL then certainly EFL standard as a minimum.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Wasn’t it only last week that Italy were pondering elevating him to the full squad?

He is a very good player, but football is about stopping others from playing and he hasn’t yet figured out from experience how to stop it happening to him.

[fidelcastro]

Wasn’t it only last week that Italy were pondering elevating him to the full squad?

He is a very good player, but football is about stopping others from playing and he hasn’t yet figured out from experience how to stop it happening to him.

Italian football has fallen a long way, if they really were considering calling up an out of form player who can't get in a championship side.

[morninbob]

Wasn’t it only last week that Italy were pondering elevating him to the full squad?

He is a very good player, but football is about stopping others from playing and he hasn’t yet figured out from experience how to stop it happening to him.

More to do with the fact that they want to tie him down as Italian as he qualifies for several countries.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Bit of a change of question but does anyone else think he’s lost a bit of his physical attributes due to his injury?

I was watching some highlights of him last season and he looked genuinely electric, not sure he’s even the quickest in our side now

[Ric_C]

Bit of a change of question but does anyone else think he’s lost a bit of his physical attributes due to his injury?

I was watching some highlights of him last season and he looked genuinely electric, not sure he’s even the quickest in our side now

Yes.

Think it was a Foster goal from last season that the club posted a few weeks ago, and even in that short clip, Koleosho looked a totally different player. Post injury he seems to have lost the electric pace and dynamism which is a shame. He's probably also lost confidence because of this.