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Video Doorbells

Post by basil6345789 » Sun May 11, 2025 10:12 pm

Wife keen on one, I'm uncertain. What are the pros and cons, please? I have an existing hard wired bell system and have Alexa. Advice would be welcome. Thanks.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by DCWat » Sun May 11, 2025 10:34 pm

I don’t really see a con with having one, although there may be opportunity to hack if not properly secured.

I find them useful for visitor announcements, facial recognition. If you’ve got Alexa, probably better to opt for Ring. I use Alexa but predominantly Google so have Nest doorbells, thermostat and protects.

I think I pay about £5 a month for facial recognition and 30 days of video history. Great images, night and day.

Should be reasonably easy to install yourself. with already having a wired doorbell in place.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Selby Claret » Sun May 11, 2025 10:36 pm

Doorbell will ring on all devices (Alexa) in house as well as phone - useful if you're a long way away from the front door and/or live in a mansion

Will live stream video to Amazon Echo Show devices with doorbell push - so you don't have to be the one with the app and/or be with your phone to see who is there

Can see who is at your door if you're not home - on your phone (live feed notification accompanies doorbell press)

Can speak with person live through phone app if not at home - or if at home and incapacitated / mobility issues (inc. answering on Echo Show)

Some require a subscription for wider features - e.g. accessing historic recordings of previous visitors

None of this works, however, if they knock
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by DCWat » Sun May 11, 2025 10:39 pm

Selby Claret wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 10:36 pm
Doorbell will ring on all devices (Alexa) in house as well as phone - useful if you're a long way away from the front door and/or live in a mansion

Will live stream video to Amazon Echo Show devices with doorbell push - so you don't have to be the one with the app and/or be with your phone to see who is there

Can see who is at your door if you're not home - on your phone (live feed notification accompanies doorbell press)

Can speak with person live through phone app if not at home - or if at home and incapacitated / mobility issues (inc. answering on Echo Show)

Some require a subscription for wider features - e.g. accessing historic recordings of previous visitors

None of this works, however, if they knock
I still receive a notification that it’s seen someone, if they knock rather than ring the bell. Could ‘go live’ and speak to them without them pressing the button.

They are especially useful for avoiding / ignoring cold callers!!

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Selby Claret » Sun May 11, 2025 10:44 pm

DCWat wrote:
Sun May 11, 2025 10:39 pm
I still receive a notification that it’s seen someone, if they knock rather than ring the bell. Could ‘go live’ and speak to them without them pressing the button.

They are especially useful for avoiding / ignoring cold callers!!
Absolutely right - apologies - my flippancy was misleading

The bell features are redundant if they knock but certainly - as you say - the motion sensor means they don't even have to knock and you'll be notified of any movement in range

I even get the odd notification on windy days when the potted plant by the front door gets a bit shaky!
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Pearcey » Sun May 11, 2025 10:58 pm

Only downside for me is that when I’m at work my kids ring it because they fancy a chat! :-D. They’re a comfort for me when I’m on nights as they provide security. I also have a ring camera in the back garden.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by karatekid » Mon May 12, 2025 7:30 am

I have a video doorbell from EUFY. After the purchase there is no monthly fee and the quality is excellent. Bell can be hardwired to existing bell wire or rechargeable. Charge typically lasts about 2 months. Notifications can be set to your preferences and all footage is stored on the 16gb Homebase .
S330 Bell and Homebase on offer for £123 currently on website. I can provide a code to get it slightly cheaper.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by fatboy47 » Mon May 12, 2025 7:44 am

Fretting over who might be at my door when I'm away on holiday (or even upstairs on the bog) just isn't my thing...I pay insurance.

My lad had one at his place up until recently...found it intrusive after the novelty wore off and binned it.
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by claretburns » Mon May 12, 2025 7:50 am

If you're a little overweight like myself when you arrive home you'll be told a package has arrived :o :lol:
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Goliath » Mon May 12, 2025 7:59 am

Cons..a monthly cost for a doorbell.
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon May 12, 2025 8:27 am

fatboy47 wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 7:44 am
Fretting over who might be at my door when I'm away on holiday
We were abroad at a family wedding last year, and all my sister-in-law did was gawp at her CCTV/doorbell app and then worry about who they were and what they wanted.
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by karatekid » Mon May 12, 2025 8:31 am

I only get notifications when someone rings the doorbell. It’s useful for deliveries and you can ignore the ones you don’t want to bother with. It records movement within its set arc of detection and stores the footage in case I need to look back at any events. Simple.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 12, 2025 8:48 am

I have a doorbell. When pressed, it rings, loudly, indoors, so I know someone is at the door. Ideal for Amazon, who ring and run, leaving parcel.

I am also surprised, each time someone is standing at the door, when I open it. Sometimes known, sometimes not. Some I let in, others not.

Amazing system. Previously, I used a door knocker. Works in a similar way but without Sometimes reaching the garden, for an alert.

There is a very few pounds, initial outlay, then nothing.

Visitors remark on how, when the door isn't answered, they realise I am absent and leave.

Clever.

Recommended.

All other systems intrusive, including for the visitors, who have not given permission to be filmed.
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Clovius Boofus » Mon May 12, 2025 9:14 am

I'm not being a Luddite here, but I'll leave well alone after witnessing my sister-in-law's CCTV/doorbell neuroticism.

When I'm out and about and not on work related stuff, all my phone is used for is calls/texts from my close family and friends list, and for paying for stuff. No intrusive social media apps etc. I find it makes life easier and more enjoyable, than bothering about who-what-where-when-why all the time.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon May 12, 2025 9:45 am

It's great for watching the tipsy people of the house come home after a few sherberts.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by ClaretTony » Mon May 12, 2025 9:47 am

Didn't a former Burnley player's video doorbell pick up a woman arriving at his house while his wife was away?

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Row x » Mon May 12, 2025 10:08 am

IanMcL wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 8:48 am
I have a doorbell. When pressed, it rings, loudly, indoors, so I know someone is at the door. Ideal for Amazon, who ring and run, leaving parcel.

I am also surprised, each time someone is standing at the door, when I open it. Sometimes known, sometimes not. Some I let in, others not.

Amazing system. Previously, I used a door knocker. Works in a similar way but without Sometimes reaching the garden, for an alert.

There is a very few pounds, initial outlay, then nothing.

Visitors remark on how, when the door isn't answered, they realise I am absent and leave.

Clever.

Recommended.

All other systems intrusive, including for the visitors, who have not given permission to be filmed.
Very good, but what about people who need to know who's at the door before answering?
The elderly, people living on their own, people with injunctions out etc etc.....life is not a one fits all scenario
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by dushanbe » Mon May 12, 2025 10:18 am

I haven't got one, I can't be arsed, but if its your thing the Blink doorbell doesn't need a monthly subscription. You get a powered module that you can pop a USB stick into to save video files on.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by karatekid » Mon May 12, 2025 10:23 am

Most doorbells have an app associated with them so you can just open it and chat with the person at the door. Don’t have to be at home or open the door if you are.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Vincent'sCap » Mon May 12, 2025 10:54 am

IanMcL wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 8:48 am
I have a doorbell. When pressed, it rings, loudly, indoors, so I know someone is at the door. Ideal for Amazon, who ring and run, leaving parcel.

I am also surprised, each time someone is standing at the door, when I open it. Sometimes known, sometimes not. Some I let in, others not.

Amazing system. Previously, I used a door knocker. Works in a similar way but without Sometimes reaching the garden, for an alert.

There is a very few pounds, initial outlay, then nothing.

Visitors remark on how, when the door isn't answered, they realise I am absent and leave.

Clever.

Recommended.

All other systems intrusive, including for the visitors, who have not given permission to be filmed.
Our front door has no fancy bells whistles cameras doorbells knockers or the like if someone's at our door they have to give it a good old fashioned knock more often than not though with it being a good old fashioned wood one i think it's the police calling more often than not. :lol:
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Venkys4eva » Mon May 12, 2025 11:50 am

We have blink and got it very early so are on the free plan. Its fantastic, really useful when out if a parcel gets delivered etc.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by dsr » Mon May 12, 2025 12:03 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 8:48 am
I have a doorbell. When pressed, it rings, loudly, indoors, so I know someone is at the door. Ideal for Amazon, who ring and run, leaving parcel.

I am also surprised, each time someone is standing at the door, when I open it. Sometimes known, sometimes not. Some I let in, others not.

Amazing system. Previously, I used a door knocker. Works in a similar way but without Sometimes reaching the garden, for an alert.

There is a very few pounds, initial outlay, then nothing.

Visitors remark on how, when the door isn't answered, they realise I am absent and leave.

Clever.

Recommended.

All other systems intrusive, including for the visitors, who have not given permission to be filmed.
I'm more high tech than you - my doorbell rings in two places, upstairs and downstairs. ;)

It's also wireless. Which would be a pain if I wanted one of these video doorbells, because there's nothing to wire it up to.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Row x » Mon May 12, 2025 12:16 pm

dsr wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 12:03 pm
I'm more high tech than you - my doorbell rings in two places, upstairs and downstairs. ;)

It's also wireless. Which would be a pain if I wanted one of these video doorbells, because there's nothing to wire it up to.
They don't need to be wired

My two are battery powered, and wireless.
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by johnnyjones » Mon May 12, 2025 3:49 pm

Goliath wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 7:59 am
Cons..a monthly cost for a doorbell.
Not all of them, I have a tapo one and its got a memory card that lasts about 30 days before it starts to overwrite itself

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Bosscat » Mon May 12, 2025 5:01 pm

dsr wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 12:03 pm
I'm more high tech than you - my doorbell rings in two places, upstairs and downstairs. ;)

It's also wireless. Which would be a pain if I wanted one of these video doorbells, because there's nothing to wire it up to.
Battery power ... ours uses 3 x 1850 rechargable batteries ... bought 3 spare batteries ... so just swap over and recharge 👍

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by pureclaret » Mon May 12, 2025 5:18 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 8:48 am


Clever.

Recommended.

All other systems intrusive, including for the visitors, who have not given permission to be filmed.
Theres no right of privacy when you are on private property so no need for them to give permission, same applies if you film someone in public places. So if you set your door bell to record to the boundary of your property to neighbours and record on the public footpath road you are within your rights

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by IanMcL » Tue May 13, 2025 5:38 pm

pureclaret wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 5:18 pm
Theres no right of privacy when you are on private property so no need for them to give permission, same applies if you film someone in public places. So if you set your door bell to record to the boundary of your property to neighbours and record on the public footpath road you are within your rights
Rights have no bearing on the personal intrusion experienced by the harmless visitors.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by IanMcL » Tue May 13, 2025 5:39 pm

dsr wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 12:03 pm
I'm more high tech than you - my doorbell rings in two places, upstairs and downstairs. ;)

It's also wireless. Which would be a pain if I wanted one of these video doorbells, because there's nothing to wire it up to.
Mine is wireless and very loud! :D

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by pureclaret » Tue May 13, 2025 6:05 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 5:38 pm
Rights have no bearing on the personal intrusion experienced by the harmless visitors.
For me if you have a problem coming to my door and been filmed , then don't come as you must be up to no good. I have no family or friend who has any health problems in being filmed at my door
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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Foshiznik » Tue May 13, 2025 6:13 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 5:38 pm
Rights have no bearing on the personal intrusion experienced by the harmless visitors.
What about the harmful visitors? Describing it as a personal Intrusion sounds a bit drama queenery to be honest.

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue May 13, 2025 6:14 pm

Goliath wrote:
Mon May 12, 2025 7:59 am
Cons..a monthly cost for a doorbell.
Eee heck, tha dunt want to be spending brass!

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Re: Video Doorbells

Post by IanMcL » Tue May 13, 2025 6:50 pm

Foshiznik wrote:
Tue May 13, 2025 6:13 pm
What about the harmful visitors? Describing it as a personal Intrusion sounds a bit drama queenery to be honest.
The likelihood of a harmful visitor is miniscule to say the least.

Just like CCTV is everywhere, we are conned into believing we are safer, somehow.

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