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Lee Grant

Post by Casper2 » Tue May 27, 2025 11:20 pm

Expected to be named as new Huddersfield manager tomorrow, huge gamble by them.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Commy » Wed May 28, 2025 1:07 am

Casper2 wrote:
Tue May 27, 2025 11:20 pm
Expected to be named as new Huddersfield manager tomorrow, huge gamble by them.
He is at Ipswich so I think they might be hoping he will have them playing the same.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 28, 2025 8:27 am

Inspired decision by Huddersfield to get rid of Michael Duff. They won their next game 5-1 against Crawley but then lost eight of their remaining nine games.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by mdd2 » Wed May 28, 2025 8:34 am

Doesnt look as if he did much for Muric's development who only played less than half of the 38 Prem league games for the Tractor Boys. But then it depends where Muric is on the knows and knows not spectrum.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by fidelcastro » Wed May 28, 2025 8:46 am

mdd2 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 8:34 am
Doesnt look as if he did much for Muric's development who only played less than half of the 38 Prem league games for the Tractor Boys. But then it depends where Muric is on the knows and knows not spectrum.
I'd doubt even a hybrid of Lev Yashin and Pat Jennings could improve Muric much tbh.
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 28, 2025 9:08 am

mdd2 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 8:34 am
Doesnt look as if he did much for Muric's development who only played less than half of the 38 Prem league games for the Tractor Boys. But then it depends where Muric is on the knows and knows not spectrum.
He isn't/wasn't the goalkeeping coach at Ipswich. Rene Gilmartin is their goalkeeping coach.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by mdd2 » Wed May 28, 2025 9:35 am

Well maybe he should have been 😂

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Casper2 » Wed May 28, 2025 9:47 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 8:27 am
Inspired decision by Huddersfield to get rid of Michael Duff. They won their next game 5-1 against Crawley but then lost eight of their remaining nine games.
Duff wasn’t given a fair chance bearing in mind their horrendous injury list.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 28, 2025 9:51 am

Casper2 wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 9:47 am
Duff wasn’t given a fair chance bearing in mind their horrendous injury list.
I thought it was a ridiculous decision at the time and so it proved to be

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by cricketfield73 » Wed May 28, 2025 10:00 am

I still think everything will click into place one day and that Michael Duff will become a very successful manager.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by mdd2 » Wed May 28, 2025 10:32 am

I agree with that sentiment
Neither Swansea nor Huddersfield gave him time needed to mould

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by IanMcL » Wed May 28, 2025 10:54 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 9:51 am
I thought it was a ridiculous decision at the time and so it proved to be
Suitably rewarded for their panic

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Devils_Advocate » Wed May 28, 2025 12:24 pm

Duff wont have a problem getting another job as we all know that football management seems to be a profession where you can keep failing and still get job after job. He's early success has got him into the inner circle so his last couple of failures wont impact him too much when it comes to getting work

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Jel » Wed May 28, 2025 3:29 pm

I thought this was going to be about either jeans or sunglasses. I couldn't work out which!

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 28, 2025 3:59 pm

Jel wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 3:29 pm
I thought this was going to be about either jeans or sunglasses. I couldn't work out which!
Neither will Huddersfield :D
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by superdimitri » Thu May 29, 2025 3:17 am

Hopefully he handles this role better than he could handle a ball.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Casper2 » Thu May 29, 2025 12:54 pm

How many keepers have gone on to make good managers ?

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 29, 2025 1:23 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 12:54 pm
How many keepers have gone on to make good managers ?
Not many although there is one currently not doing a bad job in the Premier League.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Andingle » Thu May 29, 2025 1:35 pm

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Spike » Thu May 29, 2025 4:02 pm

They want him to save them

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Casper2 » Thu May 29, 2025 8:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu May 29, 2025 1:23 pm
Not many although there is one currently not doing a bad job in the Premier League.
That’s one more than I could think of, didn’t realise he was a keeper .

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri May 30, 2025 7:33 am

Not the worst keeper we ever had but in the top five.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by wadeswondergoal » Fri May 30, 2025 7:37 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 7:33 am
Not the worst keeper we ever had but in the top five.
Do you have any facts to back this statement up?

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 30, 2025 8:08 am

wadeswondergoal wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 7:37 am
Do you have any facts to back this statement up?
He’d be hard pushed to get in my top five with Blacklaw, Stevenson, Heaton & Pope all in there. I’d probably have Trafford joining them.
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by fatboy47 » Fri May 30, 2025 8:16 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 8:08 am
He’d be hard pushed to get in my top five with Blacklaw, Stevenson, Heaton & Pope all in there. I’d probably have Trafford joining them.
Harry Thomson was no mug either.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri May 30, 2025 8:22 am

Isn't Woodley saying Grant is in the top 5 list of worst keepers ?

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Rowls » Fri May 30, 2025 8:23 am

He was great in his final season and won the POTY award. This was after being disappointing -and sometimes downright poor- in the previous two years.

The best thing he ever did for us was turn down the contract we offered him in summer 2013. I don't mean that as a personal slight against him, it meant we got Tom Heaton.
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 30, 2025 10:25 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 8:22 am
Isn't Woodley saying Grant is in the top 5 list of worst keepers ?
Maybe but no way is he in the worst five

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri May 30, 2025 10:27 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:25 am
Maybe but no way is he in the worst five
Fully agree with that, if he gets in anyone's worst top 5 they have been lucky to miss out on some shockers.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by wadeswondergoal » Fri May 30, 2025 10:34 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 8:22 am
Isn't Woodley saying Grant is in the top 5 list of worst keepers ?
This is how I read it. Quite a bold statement with no offer of any explanation.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by CoolClaret » Fri May 30, 2025 10:52 am

Hoping Duff gets the Plymouth job and gets another promotion on his CV.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by NottsClaret » Fri May 30, 2025 11:06 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 10:25 am
Maybe but no way is he in the worst five
We had a few worse than him in 91/92 alone. And that's before we get to the really bad ones.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 30, 2025 11:13 am

NottsClaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 11:06 am
We had a few worse than him in 91/92 alone. And that's before we get to the really bad ones.
Absolutely

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri May 30, 2025 12:35 pm

I wasn't counting short term fixes like Waters Kendall and Penny

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by helmclaret » Fri May 30, 2025 12:35 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 12:35 pm
I wasn't counting short term fixes like Waters Kendall and Penny
Kendall was a fix????

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Goobs » Fri May 30, 2025 12:37 pm

Who was the keeper we sent out on loan (thinking maybe Chesterfield) who was pretty direct but then played against us (as was allowed then) and had a blinder keeping a clean sheet.

Dave something??

Or have I imagined this?

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by helmclaret » Fri May 30, 2025 12:38 pm

Dave Williams but it was Rochdale.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by mdd2 » Fri May 30, 2025 12:44 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 8:08 am
He’d be hard pushed to get in my top five with Blacklaw, Stevenson, Heaton & Pope all in there. I’d probably have Trafford joining them.
Before your time but I think Colin McDonald was one of our best keepers and his place as Englands number 1 was cut short by his career ending broken leg. He made goalkeeping look easy.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 30, 2025 1:51 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 12:44 pm
Before your time but I think Colin McDonald was one of our best keepers and his place as Englands number 1 was cut short by his career ending broken leg. He made goalkeeping look easy.
The only time I saw Colin McDonald play was in the reserves when he was trying to make a comeback from the injury that ultimately ended his career. My dad said he was the best he'd seen and Jimmy Mac told me the same. Real privilege to meet him too back in 2018.
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by quoonbeatz » Fri May 30, 2025 2:04 pm

Dave Williams was the first keeper I ever saw kick the ball from one penalty area to the other without it bouncing. Awesome.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ecc » Fri May 30, 2025 3:49 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Wed May 28, 2025 12:24 pm
Duff wont have a problem getting another job as we all know that football management seems to be a profession where you can keep failing and still get job after job. He's early success has got him into the inner circle so his last couple of failures wont impact him too much when it comes to getting work
Putting aside my admiration of Michael Duff, what you say DA is true when you've had success higher up in the pyramid.

Take someone like Steve Bruce: whatever people might think about him, he was pretty successful in the Championship/PL for long enough to ensure he kept on getting jobs even though they became "lower profile".

I do genuinely hope I'm wrong but I'm not sure MD will keep on getting chances.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 31, 2025 12:35 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 2:04 pm
Dave Williams was the first keeper I ever saw kick the ball from one penalty area to the other without it bouncing. Awesome.
I might not remember that but I remember Jim McDonough reaching our box with a kick from his own box. It bounced and made its way into our net.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Enola Gay » Sat May 31, 2025 12:43 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 2:04 pm
Dave Williams was the first keeper I ever saw kick the ball from one penalty area to the other without it bouncing. Awesome.
Which in the teams he'll have been playing in probably made him on of our best attacking options.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Enola Gay » Sat May 31, 2025 1:13 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Fri May 30, 2025 7:33 am
Not the worst keeper we ever had but in the top five.
A list of selected Burnley keepers from my first season in 1986/87...

Joe Neenan, Chris Pearce, David Williams, Andy Marriott, Nicky Walker, Wayne Russell, Frank Petter Kval, Craig Mawson, Nik Michopoulos, Luigi Cennamo, Marlon Beresford (2nd spell), Danny Coyne, Nathan Abbey, Paul Rachubka, Brian Jensen, Diego Penny, Alex Cisak, Matt Gilks, Adam Legzdins, Will Norris, Wayne Hennessey, Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Vaclav Hladky.

I've left a few out because they were on loan or obvious last-resort jobs and tried to keep it to players who either played or made the bench regularly, and if you think Lee Grant is bottom-five in that list your seat doesn't face the pitch.
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Re: Lee Grant

Post by fatboy47 » Sat May 31, 2025 2:13 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 1:13 pm


Joe Neenan, Chris Pearce, David Williams, Andy Marriott, Nicky Walker, Wayne Russell, Frank Petter Kval, Craig Mawson, Nik Michopoulos, Luigi Cennamo, Marlon Beresford (2nd spell), Danny Coyne, Nathan Abbey, Paul Rachubka, Brian Jensen, Diego Penny, Alex Cisak, Matt Gilks, Adam Legzdins, Will Norris, Wayne Hennessey, Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Vaclav Hladky.

I just wish I could un-read that list...most of them should have come out of the tunnel in a red nose and clown pants.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sat May 31, 2025 2:15 pm

Fair enough each to his own

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by fidelcastro » Sat May 31, 2025 2:18 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 2:13 pm
I just wish I could un-read that list...most of them should have come out of the tunnel in a red nose and clown pants.
And he forgot about Kiraly!

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by ClaretTony » Sat May 31, 2025 2:43 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 2:18 pm
And he forgot about Kiraly!
Probably because he was an outstanding goalkeeper who won over 100 international caps

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by helmclaret » Sat May 31, 2025 2:43 pm

Always thought Gavin Ward looked good for us.

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Re: Lee Grant

Post by fidelcastro » Sat May 31, 2025 2:49 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 2:43 pm
Probably because he was an outstanding goalkeeper who won over 100 international caps
I never thought he was that great for us. Especially after who we've been privileged to see afterwards with the likes of Heaton, Pope and Trafford.

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