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Inspired decision by Huddersfield to get rid of Michael Duff. They won their next game 5-1 against Crawley but then lost eight of their remaining nine games.
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Doesnt look as if he did much for Muric's development who only played less than half of the 38 Prem league games for the Tractor Boys. But then it depends where Muric is on the knows and knows not spectrum.
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I'd doubt even a hybrid of Lev Yashin and Pat Jennings could improve Muric much tbh.
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He isn't/wasn't the goalkeeping coach at Ipswich. Rene Gilmartin is their goalkeeping coach.
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Well maybe he should have been 
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Duff wasn’t given a fair chance bearing in mind their horrendous injury list.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 8:27 amInspired decision by Huddersfield to get rid of Michael Duff. They won their next game 5-1 against Crawley but then lost eight of their remaining nine games.
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I still think everything will click into place one day and that Michael Duff will become a very successful manager.
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I agree with that sentiment
Neither Swansea nor Huddersfield gave him time needed to mould
Neither Swansea nor Huddersfield gave him time needed to mould
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Suitably rewarded for their panicClaretTony wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 9:51 amI thought it was a ridiculous decision at the time and so it proved to be
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Duff wont have a problem getting another job as we all know that football management seems to be a profession where you can keep failing and still get job after job. He's early success has got him into the inner circle so his last couple of failures wont impact him too much when it comes to getting work
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I thought this was going to be about either jeans or sunglasses. I couldn't work out which!
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Hopefully he handles this role better than he could handle a ball.
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How many keepers have gone on to make good managers ?
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They want him to save them
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That’s one more than I could think of, didn’t realise he was a keeper .ClaretTony wrote: ↑Thu May 29, 2025 1:23 pmNot many although there is one currently not doing a bad job in the Premier League.
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Not the worst keeper we ever had but in the top five.
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Do you have any facts to back this statement up?Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 7:33 amNot the worst keeper we ever had but in the top five.
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He’d be hard pushed to get in my top five with Blacklaw, Stevenson, Heaton & Pope all in there. I’d probably have Trafford joining them.
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Harry Thomson was no mug either.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 8:08 amHe’d be hard pushed to get in my top five with Blacklaw, Stevenson, Heaton & Pope all in there. I’d probably have Trafford joining them.
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Isn't Woodley saying Grant is in the top 5 list of worst keepers ?
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He was great in his final season and won the POTY award. This was after being disappointing -and sometimes downright poor- in the previous two years.
The best thing he ever did for us was turn down the contract we offered him in summer 2013. I don't mean that as a personal slight against him, it meant we got Tom Heaton.
The best thing he ever did for us was turn down the contract we offered him in summer 2013. I don't mean that as a personal slight against him, it meant we got Tom Heaton.
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Maybe but no way is he in the worst fiveclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 8:22 amIsn't Woodley saying Grant is in the top 5 list of worst keepers ?
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Fully agree with that, if he gets in anyone's worst top 5 they have been lucky to miss out on some shockers.
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This is how I read it. Quite a bold statement with no offer of any explanation.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 8:22 amIsn't Woodley saying Grant is in the top 5 list of worst keepers ?
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Hoping Duff gets the Plymouth job and gets another promotion on his CV.
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We had a few worse than him in 91/92 alone. And that's before we get to the really bad ones.
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AbsolutelyNottsClaret wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 11:06 amWe had a few worse than him in 91/92 alone. And that's before we get to the really bad ones.
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I wasn't counting short term fixes like Waters Kendall and Penny
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Kendall was a fix????Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 12:35 pmI wasn't counting short term fixes like Waters Kendall and Penny
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Who was the keeper we sent out on loan (thinking maybe Chesterfield) who was pretty direct but then played against us (as was allowed then) and had a blinder keeping a clean sheet.
Dave something??
Or have I imagined this?
Dave something??
Or have I imagined this?
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Dave Williams but it was Rochdale.
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Before your time but I think Colin McDonald was one of our best keepers and his place as Englands number 1 was cut short by his career ending broken leg. He made goalkeeping look easy.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 8:08 amHe’d be hard pushed to get in my top five with Blacklaw, Stevenson, Heaton & Pope all in there. I’d probably have Trafford joining them.
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The only time I saw Colin McDonald play was in the reserves when he was trying to make a comeback from the injury that ultimately ended his career. My dad said he was the best he'd seen and Jimmy Mac told me the same. Real privilege to meet him too back in 2018.
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Dave Williams was the first keeper I ever saw kick the ball from one penalty area to the other without it bouncing. Awesome.
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Putting aside my admiration of Michael Duff, what you say DA is true when you've had success higher up in the pyramid.Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑Wed May 28, 2025 12:24 pmDuff wont have a problem getting another job as we all know that football management seems to be a profession where you can keep failing and still get job after job. He's early success has got him into the inner circle so his last couple of failures wont impact him too much when it comes to getting work
Take someone like Steve Bruce: whatever people might think about him, he was pretty successful in the Championship/PL for long enough to ensure he kept on getting jobs even though they became "lower profile".
I do genuinely hope I'm wrong but I'm not sure MD will keep on getting chances.
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I might not remember that but I remember Jim McDonough reaching our box with a kick from his own box. It bounced and made its way into our net.quoonbeatz wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 2:04 pmDave Williams was the first keeper I ever saw kick the ball from one penalty area to the other without it bouncing. Awesome.
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Which in the teams he'll have been playing in probably made him on of our best attacking options.quoonbeatz wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 2:04 pmDave Williams was the first keeper I ever saw kick the ball from one penalty area to the other without it bouncing. Awesome.
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A list of selected Burnley keepers from my first season in 1986/87...Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Fri May 30, 2025 7:33 amNot the worst keeper we ever had but in the top five.
Joe Neenan, Chris Pearce, David Williams, Andy Marriott, Nicky Walker, Wayne Russell, Frank Petter Kval, Craig Mawson, Nik Michopoulos, Luigi Cennamo, Marlon Beresford (2nd spell), Danny Coyne, Nathan Abbey, Paul Rachubka, Brian Jensen, Diego Penny, Alex Cisak, Matt Gilks, Adam Legzdins, Will Norris, Wayne Hennessey, Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Vaclav Hladky.
I've left a few out because they were on loan or obvious last-resort jobs and tried to keep it to players who either played or made the bench regularly, and if you think Lee Grant is bottom-five in that list your seat doesn't face the pitch.
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I just wish I could un-read that list...most of them should have come out of the tunnel in a red nose and clown pants.Enola Gay wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 1:13 pm
Joe Neenan, Chris Pearce, David Williams, Andy Marriott, Nicky Walker, Wayne Russell, Frank Petter Kval, Craig Mawson, Nik Michopoulos, Luigi Cennamo, Marlon Beresford (2nd spell), Danny Coyne, Nathan Abbey, Paul Rachubka, Brian Jensen, Diego Penny, Alex Cisak, Matt Gilks, Adam Legzdins, Will Norris, Wayne Hennessey, Bailey Peacock-Farrell, Vaclav Hladky.
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Fair enough each to his own
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Probably because he was an outstanding goalkeeper who won over 100 international caps
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Always thought Gavin Ward looked good for us.
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I never thought he was that great for us. Especially after who we've been privileged to see afterwards with the likes of Heaton, Pope and Trafford.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sat May 31, 2025 2:43 pmProbably because he was an outstanding goalkeeper who won over 100 international caps