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England v Senegal

Post by claret wizard » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:36 pm

Kyle Walker’s last ever game for England?

Surprised there isn’t a thread already.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Goliath » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:38 pm

I cant believe he's still getting a game. He's been throwing in defensive errors left right and centre for the last 2 years at least.
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Re: England v Senegal

Post by ISpeds00 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:38 pm

Outplayed again by an lower ranked side - terrible to watch

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by AfloatinClaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:41 pm

What's with Kane disputing the decision to blow for half time? What's he want, extend it until he loses the ball?

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:41 pm

I'm watching N. Ireland. It's OK.
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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Lambo » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:41 pm

Walker got away with it for years due to his pace, now that’s gone he’s a bang average footballer
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Re: England v Senegal

Post by dougcollins » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:49 pm

Lambo wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:41 pm
Walker got away with it for years due to his pace, now that’s gone he’s a bang average footballer
Yep, he was always getting himself out of trouble.

Now he's just in trouble.
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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Bacchus » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:51 pm

Should be doing much better with all these world class players. Need a proper manager. Southgate out.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by alwaysaclaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:53 pm

Not great from walker, but the biggest mistake for me was allowing him to get the cross in.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:56 pm

I bet Toney is delighted he flew half way across the globe - what do we learn from Kane playing ?

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:57 pm

It used to be fun watching our National football team....it's now become a chore.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:58 pm

Whilst there really is no excuse for playing so lethargically, this really is the point of a year where I wouldn’t be reading too much into things. It was this stage of the season a few years ago when we lost 4-0 to Hungary and put in a few really poor performances.

That said, I can’t help but think Tuchel is going to be an alright failure with England and I think the FA may look back and regret tasking someone with such a singular and short term objective.
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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:03 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:56 pm
I bet Toney is delighted he flew half way across the globe - what do we learn from Kane playing ?
We learn that we’d be pretty screwed without him. Toney doesn’t deserve to play just because he lives quite a long way away.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by bobinho » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:06 pm

Bacchus wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:51 pm
Should be doing much better with all these world class players. Need a proper manager. Southgate out.
I can see what you’re getting at…

Anyone who thinks the performance and result would be different under GS are fooling themselves.

Tuchel short term absolutely reeks. Anyone short term absolutely reeks. Typical FA

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by bobinho » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:08 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:56 pm
I bet Toney is delighted he flew half way across the globe - what do we learn from Kane playing ?
You can use this argument (validly) for over half the squad.

I bet toney couldnt believe he’d been selected to be fair…

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by bobinho » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:09 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:58 pm
Whilst there really is no excuse for playing so lethargically, this really is the point of a year where I wouldn’t be reading too much into things. It was this stage of the season a few years ago when we lost 4-0 to Hungary and put in a few really poor performances.

That said, I can’t help but think Tuchel is going to be an alright failure with England and I think the FA may look back and regret tasking someone with such a singular and short term objective.
What did we manage to win after that Hungary result?

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Funkydrummer » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:10 pm

Didn't know they were playing tbh.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:11 pm

Leeds have just bid £22m for that lad who just scored.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:11 pm

Funkydrummer wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:10 pm
Didn't know they were playing tbh.
They’re not to be fair.
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Re: England v Senegal

Post by whiffa » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:11 pm

2-1 down, standard.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by ISpeds00 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:11 pm

****

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:11 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:09 pm
What did we manage to win after that Hungary result?
If you mean what trophies did we win, then none. But I don’t understand the relevance of the question?

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:14 pm

They really need to get rid of Southgate!

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by ISpeds00 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:15 pm

This female ref is actually killing the game

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by beddie » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:15 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:11 pm
Leeds have just bid £22m for that lad who just scored.
Diarra. He's a really good player, there are some very good players in the Senegal team.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Socrates » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:16 pm

ISpeds00 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:15 pm
This female ref is actually killing the game
When a male ref has a shocker ….. which happens regularly ….. do you mention their gender?
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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Socrates » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:17 pm

ISpeds00 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:15 pm
This female ref is actually killing the game
England’s male goalscorer really killed a lot of our attacks prior to being subbed.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by IanMcL » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:20 pm

Defensively very poor for their 2nd. Sake just ambled back on a more recent attack by Senegal. All sleeping.

Minutes for Trafford?

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by ISpeds00 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:25 pm

Socrates wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:16 pm
When a male ref has a shocker ….. which happens regularly ….. do you mention their gender?
She's had a shocker

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Transpennine » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:25 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:57 pm
It used to be fun watching our National football team....it's now become a chore.
When did it?

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Bacchus » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:27 pm

bobinho wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:06 pm
I can see what you’re getting at…

Anyone who thinks the performance and result would be different under GS are fooling themselves.

Tuchel short term absolutely reeks. Anyone short term absolutely reeks. Typical FA
It might well have been a similar outcome under Southgate, which is kind of the point....

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by claret wizard » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:28 pm

Tuchel has a real opportunity to shake up England . This short contract means he has little to lose. If he doesn’t win a trophy he’s toast. He won’t win a trophy doing the same that GS did. It’s like a GS team on downers.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:32 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:03 pm
We learn that we’d be pretty screwed without him. Toney doesn’t deserve to play just because he lives quite a long way away.
he called him up which meant he deserved to be called up with the intention to play. At least Kane scored :?

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:32 pm

Wow. These boys don’t know when to give up. Game on.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:34 pm

Heartbreak.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:34 pm

Crazy decision. Haha.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rowls » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:35 pm

That's not handball.

Nonsense.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by claret wizard » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:35 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:32 pm
Wow. These boys don’t know when to give up. Game on.
Game off

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by TPClaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:35 pm

Shocking decision

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:35 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:32 pm
he called him up which meant he deserved to be called up with the intention to play. At least Kane scored :?
Trafford got called up and didn’t play. I don’t think getting a squad call up means you are entitled to play.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:35 pm

Transpennine wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:25 pm
When did it?
About 60 years ago.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by whiffa » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:36 pm

Ref and VAR have ruined this game, not that it was a very good game anyway...

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by mdd2 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:36 pm

WTF was VAR doing even getting the ref to review that
Shocking decision

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:37 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:35 pm
Trafford got called up and didn’t play. I don’t think getting a squad call up means you are entitled to play.
I bet you think VAR got that right too

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:39 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:37 pm
I bet you think VAR got that right too
No, if you look above you’ll see I think it’s a crazy decision. It wasn’t the VAR who got it wrong though, it was the ref’s decision. I just don’t agree that Toney had some right to play just because he has travelled from Saudi.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:40 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:32 pm
Wow. These boys don’t know when to give up. Game on.
They havnt been arsed all night...shocking display by our so called best players

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by IanMcL » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:41 pm

That was a good goal. The ref was only given one angle. We get loads, very quickly, off TV and yet VAR seems to deliberately choose to fit what they want.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by IanMcL » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:41 pm

Oops. 3 1 now.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by Rileybobs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:41 pm

Scenes.

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Re: England v Senegal

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jun 10, 2025 9:41 pm

Well done Senegal. Woeful from England.

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