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Set piece coach gone

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:01 pm

Eliot Tybebo - our set piece coach has left to take an opportunity abroad

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by jojomk1 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:04 pm

Will be sorely missed
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:05 pm

I don't think many will be sticking their heads in the oven with this news.
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by MrTopTier » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:05 pm

We never score from corners anyway!

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by dandeclaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:13 pm

They didn’t concede from them last season either…… you know, to give a sense of balance.
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by jlup1980 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:28 pm

He was better at the defensive side than the offensive side that's for sure! It got to the point last season where we might as well have thrown the keeper the ball and given them a goal kick instead of bothering with taking the corner. I've never known us look so impotent from set pieces.
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:28 pm

New one already in or on his way?

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:29 pm

Yeah, it's not just about attacking set pieces.

I thought we were really well organised, be a shame for him to go

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by MrTopTier » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:31 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:13 pm
They didn’t concede from them last season either…… you know, to give a sense of balance.
Norwich scored from a corner, just to give a sense of balance.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by fatboy47 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:38 pm

I don't care if our conceded column was minus 20. Nothing excuses the absolutely nonsensical utter non-threat we posed from all but a couple in a full seasons free kicks and corners.
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Murger » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:43 pm

A corner to us might aswell have been a goal kick to the opposition.
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by agreenwood » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:44 pm

We went several seasons without scoring from many set pieces under Dyche, despite our reputation for being a physical “traditional British” team. Dyche defended it on more than one occasion from memory.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by martin_p » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:52 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:44 pm
We went several seasons without scoring from many set pieces under Dyche, despite our reputation for being a physical “traditional British” team. Dyche defended it on more than one occasion from memory.
Even without thinking I can remember goals from Keane, Wood and Vokes from corners/set pieces during the Dyche era.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by agreenwood » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:00 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:52 pm
Even without thinking I can remember goals from Keane, Wood and Vokes from corners/set pieces during the Dyche era.
Yeah. He was our manager for 10 years and we had a few seasons where we scored a decent amount. We also had several seasons where we didn’t, to the extent that he was quizzed about it in press conferences and talked about how statistically unlikely scoring a goal from a corner was.

My point is that having seasons where we aren’t very good at scoring from set pieces isn’t a new phenomenon.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:01 pm

martin_p wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:52 pm
Even without thinking I can remember goals from Keane, Wood and Vokes from corners/set pieces during the Dyche era.
Not to mention the odd one from Westwood that curled in

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Papabendi » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:16 pm

I've mentioned this previously but in what form of employment could doing 50% of one's role well be justified?
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Funkydrummer » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:23 pm

I thought he'd gone on holiday with Tresor.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by AfloatinClaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:28 pm

dandeclaret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:13 pm
They didn’t concede from them last season either…… you know, to give a sense of balance.
Erm, look at the top of the page, this is the UpTheClarets Board... We don't approve of having a 'sense of balance' on here. ;)

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:55 pm

You can't be judged as successful if you only do it at one end of the pitch.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:06 pm

With Westwood, Wood, Tarks and Mee in the team, you needed neither a defensive or attacking set piece coach

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by bfcmik » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:24 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:55 pm
You can't be judged as successful if you only do it at one end of the pitch.
It depends on what he was told to focus on. As the season went on it seemed to become much more about trying to stay defensively solid that trying to score at the other end.
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Juan Tanamera » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:34 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:24 pm
It depends on what he was told to focus on. As the season went on it seemed to become much more about trying to stay defensively solid that trying to score at the other end.
Did we even try to score at the 'other end?'

He was excellent at pointing.
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Claretfanatic1982 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:51 pm

fatboy47 wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:38 pm
I don't care if our conceded column was minus 20. Nothing excuses the absolutely nonsensical utter non-threat we posed from all but a couple in a full seasons free kicks and corners.
I'd say that was down to the players taking the free kick/ corner.
I just fail to see the coach telling the players to make sure the ball doesn't even go over the first defenders head .
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:06 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:24 pm
It depends on what he was told to focus on. As the season went on it seemed to become much more about trying to stay defensively solid that trying to score at the other end.
Given our lack of creativity for half a season I would have thought our offensive set pieces would have been a priority. Either or, lets hope we replace him with someone that can do both well.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Papabendi » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:22 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 3:24 pm
It depends on what he was told to focus on. As the season went on it seemed to become much more about trying to stay defensively solid that trying to score at the other end.
a set piece coach focuses on set pieces.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Spijed » Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:30 pm

Defensively brilliant as we were, when it comes to scoring, has there ever been a team as pitiful as we were at corners in the Championship last season?
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Claretitus » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:10 pm

Apart from SP and the coaches, will anyone be aware he’s no longer around? Talk about stealing a wage.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:20 pm

Off to manage Espanyol ;)
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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by dougcollins » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:26 pm

I recall he started jumping off the bench to 'supervise' throw ins - which was pretty weird.

Some of our corners had an immense comedy value to them, was that his remit?

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:50 pm

Papabendi wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:16 pm
I've mentioned this previously but in what form of employment could doing 50% of one's role well be justified?
Stunt double?

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:03 pm

Hopefully we’ve already got a better replacement in. We need far better.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by dougcollins » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:04 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:03 pm
Hopefully we’ve already got a better replacement in. We need far better.
Amazing how we ever got on without them really.

Ok then, it's not.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Spijed » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:05 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:26 pm
I recall he started jumping off the bench to 'supervise' throw ins - which was pretty weird.
Didn't Connor Roberts come with an excellent long throw reputation?

That soon disappeared when he started taking them 😊

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Papabendi » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:23 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:50 pm
Stunt double?
That's 100% of a role

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by MT03ALG » Sat Jun 28, 2025 11:15 pm

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by exilecanada » Sun Jun 29, 2025 1:14 am

Never mind a set piece coach. What we need is a Westy/McNeil clone to take corners and a Mee/Tarky/O'Shea/Wood clone to head 'em in :D

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by ecc » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:57 am

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:01 pm
Not to mention the odd one from Westwood that curled in
AW had a period when his corners were amazing.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by dougcollins » Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:35 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 4:06 pm
Given our lack of creativity for half a season I would have thought our offensive set pieces would have been a priority. Either or, lets hope we replace him with someone that can do both well.
I'd save the wage, I'm sure we did better without one.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:19 am

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 12:35 pm
I'd save the wage, I'm sure we did better without one.
I'd be curious what the players could come up with between them tbf. At risk of being reductive, surely any Premier League player should know how to attack / defend a set piece?
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Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:12 pm

Movement off the ball, by our front men creates space that the set piece taker needs to utilise for our runners.

Start from there and you can create a dozen different routines. 3 or 4 would be good to start with.

Defensively, we did great, but still need to tighten it up, as opposition will punish any slackness. Can't rest on our laurels.

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:14 pm

Jimmy Adamson used to get the maximum out of his teams at set pieces, before it was such a big thing.

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Post by Jambounchained » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:49 pm

MT03ALG wrote:
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Post by Targetman » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:31 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:14 pm
Jimmy Adamson used to get the maximum out of his teams at set pieces, before it was such a big thing.

We used to have some excellent free kick routines in the early 70's.

We won the Charity Shield at Maine Road with one.
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Post by FeedTheArf » Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:50 am

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:25 am

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:19 am
I'd be curious what the players could come up with between them tbf. At risk of being reductive, surely any Premier League player should know how to attack / defend a set piece?
I'm sure they do, but do you just let them run around and do their own thing? Would be chaos

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:31 am

dougcollins wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:26 pm
I recall he started jumping off the bench to 'supervise' throw ins - which was pretty weird.

Some of our corners had an immense comedy value to them, was that his remit?
I actually thought our thow-ins needed supervision last season. Dreadful. Although for balance they did get a bit better as the season went on.

I expect we’ll use them to slow the game down even more this season and probably take longer over them than a free kick!

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Re: Set piece coach gone

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:35 am

Spijed wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 6:30 pm
Defensively brilliant as we were, when it comes to scoring, has there ever been a team as pitiful as we were at corners in the Championship last season?
This just about sums it up for me. Defensively we were very good at defending set pieces both in the second half of the Premier League season (I thought) and last year, but my word our corners and FKs (Flemming bangers aside) we’re a tough watch.

Interestingly, Walker mentioned in his interview the need to score from set pieces so hopefully that’s something Parker has already discussed with him.

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