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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:05 pm

La Liga, no buying club would agree to that. Just think about the reality of such an agreement!

But I agree 25% of any profit, as there is potential for 1 more move as James might just be one of the best of all time??

What is the expression? No ceiling on his potential!!

I think that James would be happy to stay at Newcastle for the rest of his career, or challenge himself at a top European club. Barcelona perhaps?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:09 pm

I believe that James will be known as a Generational talent.

I hope I get to see his career in it's totality. Great things lie ahead.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:38 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:17 am
Fair enough , but that shouldn’t mean Newcastle get him on the cheap
Don’t disagree

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:38 pm

Spijed wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:26 am
Does that mean we should be prepared to accept a lower fee just to keep him happy?
Of course not
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:39 pm

Is this the Chris Wood who regularly scores 15+goals in the Premier league not too shabby or too cheap imo.It contributed significantly towards our relegation that season with no plan to replace him.We need to screw as much as possible for Traff and stick to our price no more Pope style Happy Shopper gifts.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:30 pm

Theories? https://x.com/burnleyofficial/status/19 ... 6QKwfgixkA

Some pointing out the brown hill. I can't see it though.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:00 pm

Porting bidding £20m for THB. Plenty on here were saying we shouldn't go for him as he isn't good enough for the Premier League.

https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/1939 ... 6QKwfgixkA

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ollieclarets8 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:03 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:30 pm
Theories? https://x.com/burnleyofficial/status/19 ... 6QKwfgixkA

Some pointing out the brown hill. I can't see it though.
Not sure how the date would make sense.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:19 pm

Newcastle missed out on Joao Pedro from Brighton, gone to Chelsea for over 50 million on a 7 year deal.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:19 pm
Newcastle missed out on Joao Pedro from Brighton, gone to Chelsea for over 50 million on a 7 year deal.
Good player but wow how is someone like that going for that much

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:22 pm

There must be some we can get out of Chelsea, they have far too many players

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:23 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:21 pm
Good player but wow how is someone like that going for that much
It's pathetic really, the sooner the Super League happens and all these clubs **** off the better the pyramid will be for every club
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:27 pm

Wonder if Chelsea might be interested in Trafford ?
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:39 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:23 pm
It's pathetic really, the sooner the Super League happens and all these clubs **** off the better the pyramid will be for every club
Not sure it would be better. The fees for elite players would certainly grow at an even faster pace, and there could be a signficant destabilising and rippling effect for domestic leagues.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:14 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:39 pm
Not sure it would be better. The fees for elite players would certainly grow at an even faster pace, and there could be a signficant destabilising and rippling effect for domestic leagues.
I think we are long passed that point sadly, fees wages and agent fees are out of control. These mega clubs just hoover up all the talent then over charge when they sell them - Jarell Quansah for 40 million being the most recent example..........something like 30 appearances for Liverpool and 15 for Bristol Rovers makes him worth that is laughable imho.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:35 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 7:30 pm
Theories? https://x.com/burnleyofficial/status/19 ... 6QKwfgixkA

Some pointing out the brown hill. I can't see it though.
Kit release date? Burnley logo and Castore at the end.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Steddyman » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:39 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:35 pm
Kit release date? Burnley logo and Castore at the end.
If it is, then it is top trolling from the admins. Rolling brown hills.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:40 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:14 pm
I think we are long passed that point sadly, fees wages and agent fees are out of control. These mega clubs just hoover up all the talent then over charge when they sell them - Jarell Quansah for 40 million being the most recent example..........something like 30 appearances for Liverpool and 15 for Bristol Rovers makes him worth that is laughable imho.
I've no doubt about that. But what I'm suggesting is that it would get worse.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:46 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:19 pm
Newcastle missed out on Joao Pedro from Brighton, gone to Chelsea for over 50 million on a 7 year deal.
Excellent they should have a few bob around the place to pay for Traff then.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:48 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 4:09 pm
I believe that James will be known as a Generational talent.

I hope I get to see his career in it's totality. Great things lie ahead.
Do you know him personally? Unusual to hear someone referring to a player in such a way.
Not having a dig Just asking.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:50 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:00 pm
Porting bidding £20m for THB. Plenty on here were saying we shouldn't go for him as he isn't good enough for the Premier League.

https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/1939 ... 6QKwfgixkA
Not sure either way tbh. However this bid from Porto doesn't confirm he is good enough for the prem.

He did a great job for us a couple of years back.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by mybloodisclaret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:02 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:00 pm
Porting bidding £20m for THB. Plenty on here were saying we shouldn't go for him as he isn't good enough for the Premier League.

https://x.com/secondtierpod/status/1939 ... 6QKwfgixkA
Just had a look at this..... that is €23.39 million, and would make him Porto's most expensive player ever.

Think Nicko is trying to stimulate some interest in England on behalf of an agent at that price.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:17 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 10:40 pm
I've no doubt about that. But what I'm suggesting is that it would get worse.
Not sure, it's already run away with itself

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Commy » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:23 pm

Didn't Southampton pay £20m for him? They will probably want more than they paid.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Quicknick » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:22 pm
There must be some we can get out of Chelsea, they have far too many players
I don't want to go to Chelsea...

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Goobs » Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:32 pm

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:26 pm
I don't want to go to Chelsea...
I'll tell you now and I'll tell you firmly.....
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:03 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 8:21 pm
Good player but wow how is someone like that going for that much
I’ve mentioned previously if you check out the transfers from BHA to Chelsea and the OTT fees there is some serious money laundering going on there.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:07 am

I’ve been most impressed with the fitness tests the club have put out on the new boys.
Way beyond hopping from one wall to another with your tongue out.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:14 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:03 am
I’ve mentioned previously if you check out the transfers from BHA to Chelsea and the OTT fees there is some serious money laundering going on there.
This may be tongue in cheek. But either way. I just don’t understand the figures these days.

Like seriously where are teams getting the return on investment from.

Unless they have an owner / state nation with unlimited funds. Which let’s be frank - nobody does. Even city etc. what is the return?

Look at Chelsea for example. They’ve spent over £1bn since Boehly took over. That’s 20% plus of his net worth!

(Sure they’ve sold some players. They have commercial interests. And other investors.). But I just don’t understand it.

When you factor in wages and all of the other operating costs. How are the fees sustainable?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by JimmyRobbo » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:21 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 29, 2025 11:02 pm
Just had a look at this..... that is €23.39 million, and would make him Porto's most expensive player ever.

Think Nicko is trying to stimulate some interest in England on behalf of an agent at that price.
That was my immediate thought. I could be wrong but I just don't see a Portuguese team targetting him at that price.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by FeedTheArf » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:24 am

CyrilEbokiPoh wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:14 am

When you factor in wages and all of the other operating costs. How are the fees sustainable?
I think he’s taking a very long term view. All the players are signed on 7-8 year contracts at ‘reasonable’ wages. He’s hoping that wages continue to rise exponentially and Chelsea can sit pretty as their wage bill is more controlled.

What he hasn’t taken account of is player power and the fact that regardless of having 5+ years left on contracts, player and agent power dictates that they’ll be knocking on the chairman’s door asking for an improved deal if they have a decent season or two.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:11 am

Noticed Souza is going to Wolfsburg for 13m

Surprised we weren’t interested at that fee

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:52 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:11 am
Noticed Souza is going to Wolfsburg for 13m

Surprised we weren’t interested at that fee
I’m not to be honest mate. Like Cooper, not convinced he’s Premier League material.

He’d improve us for sure because we need a big, tall, dominant CM, but not sure he’s a massive upgrade on Laurent.

They picked him up for a couple of million I seem to remember though. Great business.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:53 am

Manchester City and Chelsea will probably both make enough money from this Club World Cup to pay for much of their summer transfer business. When that is finished I am sure both clubs will be jetting off to play in lucrative tournaments and friendlies already arranged overseas.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by RVclaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:57 am

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:52 am
I’m not to be honest mate. Like Cooper, not convinced he’s Premier League material.

He’d improve us for sure because we need a big, tall, dominant CM, but not sure he’s a massive upgrade on Laurent.

They picked him up for a couple of million I seem to remember though. Great business.
They paid around £10m.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by martin_p » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:07 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:53 am
Manchester City and Chelsea will probably both make enough money from this Club World Cup to pay for much of their summer transfer business. When that is finished I am sure both clubs will be jetting off to play in lucrative tournaments and friendlies already arranged overseas.
Then complaining about the FA Cup meaning they play too many games.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by TsarBomba » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:07 am

CyrilEbokiPoh wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 12:14 am
This may be tongue in cheek. But either way. I just don’t understand the figures these days.

Like seriously where are teams getting the return on investment from.

Unless they have an owner / state nation with unlimited funds. Which let’s be frank - nobody does. Even city etc. what is the return?

Look at Chelsea for example. They’ve spent over £1bn since Boehly took over. That’s 20% plus of his net worth!

(Sure they’ve sold some players. They have commercial interests. And other investors.). But I just don’t understand it.

When you factor in wages and all of the other operating costs. How are the fees sustainable?
Chelsea ‘sold’ their women’s team for £200M to a parent company to help with their PSR.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Tricky Trevor » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:12 am

Porto mentioned above, I don’t think we were.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:16 am

Just read Sunderland are interested in Charlie Cresswell who has an 18m release clause.
The English u21 centre back impressed me in the little match time I watched. Very dominant in the air from set pieces.

Has anyone seen more of him? Is he worth signing?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by martin_p » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:17 am

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:12 am
Porto mentioned above, I don’t think we were.
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I’m not sure what he’s done in the last 12 months to make Soton think his value has gone up by 33%.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by matttheclaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:18 am

Romano saying Trafford to Newcastle all but done

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Pearcey » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:31 am

You’d think Trafford has expressed an interest in leaving otherwise I don’t think we’d entertain selling him now we’re in the prem. Shame.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by northeastclaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:39 am

Pearcey wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:31 am
You’d think Trafford has expressed an interest in leaving otherwise I don’t think we’d entertain selling him now we’re in the prem. Shame.
You could also probably assume that if Trafford hadn’t expressed his wish to leave for a team in the Champions League which improves his chances of an England place , CJR would have also stayed. Hopefully the domino effect doesn’t include many more players that ideally we want to keep.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:43 am

We clearly made a deal with Trafford a year ago and we can’t underestimate how being true to our word as a club goes a long way in attracting top new signings like Hartmann, ones of a class to move up to Champion’s League in due course.

I just hope we get at least £30m for Traff, but more is probably fanciful for a keeper without a bidding war.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by northeastclaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:47 am

The problem is not getting a fair price and Newcastle again taking advantage of it , so they can spend bigger money on other players. Being fair to a player must include getting a fair price.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by louieollie » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:48 am

northeastclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:39 am
You could also probably assume that if Trafford hadn’t expressed his wish to leave for a team in the Champions League which improves his chances of an England place , CJR would have also stayed. Hopefully the domino effect doesn’t include many more players that ideally we want to keep.
You can't blame the lad can you really, looking without claret tinted glasses its a sensible and progressive move for him and anyone of us in the same position would do exactly the same.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by kentonclaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:48 am

Pearcey wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:31 am
You’d think Trafford has expressed an interest in leaving otherwise I don’t think we’d entertain selling him now we’re in the prem. Shame.
It was actually reported on the BBC’s Gossip page towards the end of last week that Newcastle had actually agreed terms with James Trafford but were still in negotiations with Burnley over the final fee. So yes, if true one would assume that Trafford is perfectly happy to sign for them. If I am remembering correctly the source may well have been the Romano guy posters place so much faith in.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by fatboy47 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:51 am

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:43 am
We clearly made a deal with Trafford a year ago and we can’t underestimate how being true to our word as a club goes
Whatever gentlemans agreement was made wouldn't have involved selling Trafford for less than his value...we (VK)took a massive punt on him 2 years ago...he's come good and we'll be wanting a reasonble return.

Newcastle won't be the only interested party here.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by warksclaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:27 am

Can see him being the perfect fit at Chelsea where he would re-unite with Palmer and Delap. If we stay firm can see other clubs coming in-maybe even Man City
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:34 am

RVclaret wrote:
Mon Jun 30, 2025 8:57 am
They paid around £10m.
Ah, my mistake. Not such good business then :lol:

Think £10-£13m is about right for him on both transfers really.

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