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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:34 am

I still cannot believe we signed Kyle Walker!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by quoonbeatz » Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:35 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:20 am
Tbf that link is from the start of the season after only a handful of games.

His top speed for the season was what I posted
Nope, you posted his record which was from 22/23. His highest speed in 2024 was 35kmh. Still not remotely in ‘legs have gone’ territory.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Targetman » Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:40 am

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And well done for confirming that any post that conflicts with your world view should be deleted.
Thankfully I live in the EU where we have enforceable legislation for free speech.
And yes imho Cullen was a total and absolute failure in the epl due to his lack of physicality.
A ban on free speech does not suppress an opinion

I recall that being one of your regular traits during the run up to a certain referendum a few years ago, trying to suppress opinions that differed from your own.

Some people on here do have short memories!

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Claretfanatic1982 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:55 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 05, 2025 8:36 pm
It’s a valid point but, looking back now, VK’s man management left a hell of a lot to be desired.

I’d back Parker to do better in that regard, but it will be interesting to see how he knits it all together.
In hindsight, I also think Kompany's 2 pre seasons didn't do us any help.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Claretfanatic1982 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:08 am

Article has a date of 14th of October 2024.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ervi34 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:13 am

Cajuste joining Besiktas.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:20 am

Claretfanatic1982 wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:08 am
Article has a date of 14th of October 2024.
I realise that.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:21 am

The Cajuste one came out at a time when the Diouf story was busy, probably just a nothing story to try hurry things along at the time.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:25 am

quoonbeatz wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:35 am
Nope, you posted his record which was from 22/23. His highest speed in 2024 was 35kmh. Still not remotely in ‘legs have gone’ territory.
Gone isn't fair but going more accurate. At the end of the day he should still be fast enough for us & that's all that matters.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:37 am

This whole Walkers pace debate would be far more of a concern under Kompany, who would play a high line regardless. I expect Parker has told Walker he’ll be playing much more of a mid/low block and therefore he won’t be left exposed. He’ll still be one of the fastest at the club.

But the main advantage of this signing is the experience and leadership he’ll offer the back line.

Last year: we needed to sign experience.

This year: experience isn’t enough, we need them to be experienced and at their peak.

:lol:

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ClaretAL » Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:47 am

I could easily see us setting up as a back 3 looking at what we have and who we have signed
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:52 am

I thought Josh Brownhill would have signed up to be part of our next adventure by now.Also Livramento leaving Newcastle for big fee so we definitely must hold out for top money for Traff

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:54 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:47 am
I could easily see us setting up as a back 3 looking at what we have and who we have signed
Yeah, I think that’s very much part of the thinking.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Claretnick » Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:04 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:52 am
I thought Josh Brownhill would have signed up to be part of our next adventure by now.Also Livramento leaving Newcastle for big fee so we definitely must hold out for top money for Traff
I think we need to let go of Josh, he appears to have moved on
I am hoping against hope that James remains with us for at least one more season
However I think the England manager's comments about the need to play in European competition to get in the World cup squad has undermined us somewhat..
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:13 am

I think that Parker will already have an idea of how he wants us to play, in the majority of our games, with slight deviations for specific 'other games'.
He may also use slight deviations, dependent on the personnel he selects, playing to their strengths. Particular patterns of play will be available to be used within any system.
The systems will though be generally consistent, with the participating players being flexibly interchangeable.
I don't think he will change systems for the likes of Sunderland at home, he'll just hope that in such games, we'll be more dominant in both penalty areas.

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Post by Elizabeth » Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:19 am

Claretnick wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:04 am
I think we need to let go of Josh, he appears to have moved on
I am hoping against hope that James remains with us for at least one more season
However I think the England manager's comments about the need to play in European competition to get in the World cup squad has undermined us somewhat..
I've read that Touchel has hinted to Grealish that he needs to find a club playing in European competition next season but I doubt any England manager would purposely not pick a player for a World Cup squad because of who he plays for.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:26 am

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:52 am
I thought Josh Brownhill would have signed up to be part of our next adventure by now.Also Livramento leaving Newcastle for big fee so we definitely must hold out for top money for Traff
Some double standards going on at NU when they value him for £80m for him when City have offered £60m but won’t increase their £25 for Traff to our £40m

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:34 am

ClaretAL wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:47 am
I could easily see us setting up as a back 3 looking at what we have and who we have signed
Scott Parker will realise that to have any chance of survival in the PL that he will need to strengthen the front 3 and improve our attacking options. As it was we scored 26 goals fewer than Leeds in the last Championship season and that is taking into account the 18 goal contribution from Josh Brownhill.
I am certain that Scott Parker will be aware of this and I expect to see significant strengthening before the window closes. Lowest scoring teams in the PL have a very poor survival record.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Spijed » Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:47 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:34 am
Scott Parker will realise that to have any chance of survival in the PL that he will need to strengthen the front 3 and improve our attacking options. As it was we scored 26 goals fewer than Leeds in the last Championship season and that is taking into account the 18 goal contribution from Josh Brownhill.
I am certain that Scott Parker will be aware of this and I expect to see significant strengthening before the window closes. Lowest scoring teams in the PL have a very poor survival record.
Weren't we always one of the lowest scoring teams under SD?

But with a rock solid defence?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:50 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:34 am
Scott Parker will realise that to have any chance of survival in the PL that he will need to strengthen the front 3 and improve our attacking options. As it was we scored 26 goals fewer than Leeds in the last Championship season and that is taking into account the 18 goal contribution from Josh Brownhill.
I am certain that Scott Parker will be aware of this and I expect to see significant strengthening before the window closes. Lowest scoring teams in the PL have a very poor survival record.
You’re right on the goals stat comparing us to Leeds but without checking my facts I think we matched them the last half of the season
Our team was virtually from scratch from Sunderland theirs was a built unit
Also 1 goal usually got us all 3 points, they needed 2 and in the Prem it may be if we’re defensively stronger that a goal gets you a point 2 maybe a win whereas a gung ho team loses 2.1 3.2
All conjecture, but we became more high scoring
as the season went on, ignoring Luton & Cardiff at the start as we lost virtually all those goal scorers

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:12 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 8:22 am
With some of the recent signings it's difficult to not have the impression that we aren't some sort of a sick bed bay institute compounded by the targets we seem to identify. I understand that footballers get injured it's part & parcel of the game from time to time but our bunch seem to at the drop of a hat & far too frequent in my view.
Just like Defour, whom we wouldn’t have got anywhere near, if he wasn’t permanently part crocked, but that quality even in a restricted form is worth more than some super fit player with a lack of ball skills and or composure
We currently have the perfect example of that

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by taio » Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:44 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:26 am
Some double standards going on at NU when they value him for £80m for him when City have offered £60m but won’t increase their £25 for Traff to our £40m
I reckon the deal for Trafford will go through soon for £30m. A feeling of inevitability.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:49 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 11:50 am
You’re right on the goals stat comparing us to Leeds but without checking my facts I think we matched them the last half of the season
Our team was virtually from scratch from Sunderland theirs was a built unit
Also 1 goal usually got us all 3 points, they needed 2 and in the Prem it may be if we’re defensively stronger that a goal gets you a point 2 maybe a win whereas a gung ho team loses 2.1 3.2
All conjecture, but we became more high scoring
as the season went on, ignoring Luton & Cardiff at the start as we lost virtually all those goal scorers
You appear to have fallen into the same trap as many others into believing that if we are defensively sound as we were in the Championship then we can nick a 1-0 win or maybe a 1-1. But the stats simply do not back that theory up.
In the Championship last season a total of 69 matches ended with a full time score of 1-0. In the Premier League only 29 matches ended with that score line. Likewise in the Championship 78 matches ended 1-1 compared to just 45 in the PL. Similarly with the 2-1 score line, 64 in the Championship against just 33 in the PL.
The lack of sufficient goal threat is one of the main reasons that promoted Championship clubs find it almost impossible to survive for a second season.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:03 pm

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:12 pm
Just like Defour, whom we wouldn’t have got anywhere near, if he wasn’t permanently part crocked, but that quality even in a restricted form is worth more than some super fit player with a lack of ball skills and or composure
We currently have the perfect example of that
That depends just how crocked they are & how much they actually contribute. I'm a great believer in people staying fit & contributing. For all the skill defour had & walker has it's no good to man nor beast if they are always on the treatment table getting paid ****loads for not doing anything, but rarely popping up with some magic I'd prefer a steady dependable operator.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:07 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:03 pm
I'm a great believer in people staying fit & contributing.
Aye, but the game has moved on. Most managers these days prefer unfit players who are unable to contribute.

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Post by Stevie Morgan » Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:10 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:03 pm
That depends just how crocked they are & how much they actually contribute. I'm a great believer in people staying fit & contributing. For all the skill defour had & walker has it's no good to man nor beast if they are always on the treatment table getting paid ****loads for not doing anything, but rarely popping up with some magic I'd prefer a steady dependable operator.
If you would have preferred not to see defour in a Burnley shirt, footballs not for you.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:10 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:07 pm
Aye, but the game has moved on. Most managers these days prefer unfit players who are unable to contribute.
Well let's just hope we aren't too disappointed with our latest acquisition.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:15 pm

Stevie Morgan wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:10 pm
If you would have preferred not to see defour in a Burnley shirt, footballs not for you.
It's not that simplistic it's a preference. Of course I enjoyed defour playing for us but would I have preferred somebody else instead of him staying fit & saving on excess wages. It's a bigger picture I look at.

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Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:18 pm

For anyone bemoaning walkers age. He is younger than Alexander was when we signed him.

As well as Ian Wright. Andy Cole. And several others of that calibre.

They didn’t turn out too bad.
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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by FeedTheArf » Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:55 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:44 pm
I reckon the deal for Trafford will go through soon for £30m. A feeling of inevitability.
Let’s hope so. We don’t want to be scratching around for replacements at the end of the windows. If he’s going, get gone and we can plan.

Thankfully we look to be doing a significant amount of business early doors.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:08 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 10:21 am
The Cajuste one came out at a time when the Diouf story was busy, probably just a nothing story to try hurry things along at the time.
Doesn’t seem to be anything to hurry along the Diouf deal now, looks completely dead

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Post by matttheclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:17 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:08 pm
Doesn’t seem to be anything to hurry along the Diouf deal now, looks completely dead
It was never alive was it?

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Post by kenyon6923 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:25 pm

CyrilEbokiPoh wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 1:18 pm
For anyone bemoaning walkers age. He is younger than Alexander was when we signed him.

As well as Ian Wright. Andy Cole. And several others of that calibre.

They didn’t turn out too bad.
Can't believe Gaza was not mentioned !!! Superb times.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:28 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:08 pm
Doesn’t seem to be anything to hurry along the Diouf deal now, looks completely dead
According to some posters the other night it was pretty much a forgone conclusion. In anticipation I was ready to slot him into my fantasy football team.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:44 pm

matttheclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:17 pm
It was never alive was it?
Depends what you believe, looked the French reporters had it at a done deal

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:54 pm

matttheclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:17 pm
It was never alive was it?
Nobody really knew either way but instead of reserving judgement & waiting. Certain folk allowed themselves to get carried away & became fixated with what they read on twitter or other unreputable news outlets as gospel.

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Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:54 pm

kenyon6923 wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 2:25 pm
Can't believe Gaza was not mentioned !!! Superb times.
I don't see what war in Palestine has to do with Graham Alexander

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:00 pm

Was there anything in the Ericsson link?

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by agreenwood » Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:30 pm

Little bits from the Turkish media that we’re still in talks re Oxlade-Chamberlain.

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Post by ollieclarets8 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:35 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:30 pm
Little bits from the Turkish media that we’re still in talks re Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Also more reports of Josh Sargent, but they insist on mentioning Leeds with every player we are linked with, so difficult to take serious.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:39 pm

ollieclarets8 wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:35 pm
Also more reports of Josh Sargent, but they insist on mentioning Leeds with every player we are linked with, so difficult to take serious.
I really hope it’s Leeds leading the race. Their fans are absolutely up in arms about it :lol:

Sargent is a decent Championship player but not a big enough upgrade for what we already have in the Premier League.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:42 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:30 pm
Little bits from the Turkish media that we’re still in talks re Oxlade-Chamberlain.
I can never take anything serious from the Turkish media.

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Post by ollieclarets8 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:43 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:39 pm
I really hope it’s Leeds leading the race. Their fans are absolutely up in arms about it :lol:

Sargent is a decent Championship player but not a big enough upgrade for what we already have in the Premier League.
They wanted Muniz but that's apparently failed, which was very nice to see.

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Re: Summer transfer window

Post by JR1882 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:52 pm

Nothing says 6 goals in 38 games like £16m for Sargent

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Post by ollieclarets8 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:57 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:52 pm
Nothing says 6 goals in 38 games like £16m for Sargent
Where did you read that? I read 15 goals in 32 games last season.

They might be just linking him because he's called Josh.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:07 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 3:52 pm
Nothing says 6 goals in 38 games like £16m for Sargent
Foster cost best part of 12-15m and has 8 goals in 63 games.

Sargent was one of the only strikers this season that caused our defence problems.

Good age, 6ft1/2, both footed, I think at 16m it’s a no brainer. Certainly playing at a better level already than what the big lad at Genk people seem to be wanting.
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Post by GrahamBranchsPerm » Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:13 pm

Personally rate Sargent. Good player when fit. Aware most won‘t.

UTC

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Post by taio » Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:13 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:07 pm
Foster cost best part of 12-15m and has 8 goals in 63 games.

Sargent was one of the only strikers this season that caused our defence problems.

Good age, 6ft1/2, both footed, I think at 16m it’s a no brainer. Certainly playing at a better level already than what the big lad at Genk people seem to be wanting.
Foster certainly didn't cost that much

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:15 pm

GrahamBranchsPerm wrote:
Sun Jul 06, 2025 4:13 pm
Personally rate Sargent. Good player when fit. Aware most won‘t.

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45 league goals over the last 3 seasons in 100apps is really good goal scoring record.

25 years old, reaching his peak in next year or two.


16m honestly seems a decentish price
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