Lancashire League weekend thread

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:19 am

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:09 am
Question for Hopey

How many of your current players receive a financial payment in one form or another ?

Might help us all to understand the workings of today’s LL clubs

Can’t imagine you pay any more or less players than other clubs
Are you suggesting lowerhouse are cheating?

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Jul 17, 2025 6:58 am

If it goes on as much as it is rumoured to maybe it’s time clubs come out and say. At least the bottom clubs would know where they stand.
The gap seems to be widening between the 2nd division and top and I don’t buy into players move clubs for ‘better facilities’ it’s Lancashire league cricket!

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:21 am

If what's to believed it's the bottom clubs as well, Burnley apparently are one of the worst for it. Rumours however

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Bigbopper » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:24 am

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:09 am
Question for Hopey

How many of your current players receive a financial payment in one form or another ?

Might help us all to understand the workings of today’s LL clubs

Can’t imagine you pay any more or less players than other clubs
Let's have a go at Lowerhouse again provoked by envy I would think

Lowerhouse are a well club run by an amazing team of volunteers. Do any of the players receive money for playing? I do not know but doubt it. A number of the playing staff attend the ground on training nights to help the youngsters. Again I do not know if they receive payment.

With the financial situation of most local clubs I can't see large sums of money being given out. Burnley would seem to be in a good financial position but that doesn't follow that they pay players especially if it is a win bonus system. :lol:
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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:29 am

I'd like to think the lads and lasses that do the dynamos, allstars and younger teams do get a reward of some kind. They are fantastic with the kids.

Maybe he's referring to the amount they get in the collection for a 50 or a ton. Imagine a couple of dog treats and 10 bob they get down at Burnley isn't in the same league

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:53 am

GetIntoEm wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:29 am
I'd like to think the lads and lasses that do the dynamos, allstars and younger teams do get a reward of some kind. They are fantastic with the kids.

Maybe he's referring to the amount they get in the collection for a 50 or a ton. Imagine a couple of dog treats and 10 bob they get down at Burnley isn't in the same league
Tbf, those who do "All Stars" do get some cash remittance for it.

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Jul 17, 2025 10:28 am

Dark Cloud wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:53 am
Tbf, those who do "All Stars" do get some cash remittance for it.
That's good to know.

At Lowerhouse you just pay for the 8 week block and they carry on till September for free

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:55 am

GetIntoEm wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 5:19 am
Are you suggesting lowerhouse are cheating?
I am giving Hopey the opportunity to answer a very straightforward question. It is nothing to do with cheating

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Socrates » Thu Jul 17, 2025 11:58 am

I’ll be honest …… if I was desperate to find out about financial irregularities in local amateur cricket then my first port of call absolutely would be a football message board.

And I absolutely cannot understand why somebody affiliated to Lowerhouse isn’t answering questions from a completely anonymous person on said football message board.

All of this is normal. And in no way weird.

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by arise_sir_charge » Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:37 pm

Afternoon all, the first time I’ve viewed or contributed to this forum in nearly 2 years.

Somebody has brought this thread to my attention.

As one, if not the most senior person in the Lowerhouse hierarchy I can confirm without fear of contradiction that other than the pro, Lowerhouse do not pay any other of our players.

We pay a number of coaches and probably spend more on coaching than any other current t LL club. However, for clarity none of the current playing members who coach receive remuneration.

Hope this clears things up for everyone.
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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by FCBurnley » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:03 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:37 pm
Afternoon all, the first time I’ve viewed or contributed to this forum in nearly 2 years.

Somebody has brought this thread to my attention.

As one, if not the most senior person in the Lowerhouse hierarchy I can confirm without fear of contradiction that other than the pro, Lowerhouse do not pay any other of our players.

We pay a number of coaches and probably spend more on coaching than any other current t LL club. However, for clarity none of the current playing members who coach receive remuneration.

Hope this clears things up for everyone.
Great response. Puts the payments issue at Lowerhouse to bed once and for all
If we have any senior members of other clubs on this board who would like to make a similar statement about their clubs then that would be most welcome

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Somethingfishy » Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:40 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:09 am
Question for Hopey

How many of your current players receive a financial payment in one form or another ?

Might help us all to understand the workings of today’s LL clubs

Can’t imagine you pay any more or less players than other clubs
...and here he is.

Being a member I attended this year's Lowerhouse AGM. The question was posed to Stan. He looked down..took off his glasses and he was unequivocal. Over his dead body would we lure players from other clubs by paying them. Very much against it and that is despite him knowing it happens elsewhere. He knows he's fighting against the tide too.

The coaches..of which there are many owing to our big junior activities will be paid something. It's our biggest outlay by far. He is rightly very proud of what has been built. Lowerhouse is a proud community club.

So...yes it happens and no Lowerhouse don't pay amateurs for playing. Those that coach like Paddy Martin get paid for coaching but it's not like we've lured him..he's Lowerhouse through and through.

Sorry to spoil your narrative. I'd look closer to home. Living in glass houses and all that?
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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Longsidelenny1882 » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:11 pm

We won’t pay you for playing but you can have some money coaching brilliant UPTHECOLNE

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Hopey » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:40 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 1:09 am
Question for Hopey

How many of your current players receive a financial payment in one form or another ?

Might help us all to understand the workings of today’s LL clubs

Can’t imagine you pay any more or less players than other clubs
One person gets paid to play cricket at Lowerhouse, and that is the pro (or the sub pro as his has been a few times this year.)

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Hopey » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:45 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 12:37 pm
Afternoon all, the first time I’ve viewed or contributed to this forum in nearly 2 years.

Somebody has brought this thread to my attention.

As one, if not the most senior person in the Lowerhouse hierarchy I can confirm without fear of contradiction that other than the pro, Lowerhouse do not pay any other of our players.

We pay a number of coaches and probably spend more on coaching than any other current t LL club. However, for clarity none of the current playing members who coach receive remuneration.

Hope this clears things up for everyone.
Didn't see this before posting my last comment. You can't get any senior than ASC.

Most of our first team have played since they were knee high to a grasshopper at Lowerhouse. Others moved when they were young juniors. My family has been involved for generations. I played first team (a few times) but wasn't very good. Each of us find a way to give back, some coaching, some committee'ing, some with the website/social media. It's the club ethos that brings players, and that has been built by the likes of Stan, et al.

My 5 year old is in AllStars with a couple of members of this boards kids. It is astonishing on a week night how many people are down and what in the last 30 years has gone from a club weeks from going bump to a strong community focussed club. Last night we had a bloody dentist at AllStars giving out free advice to the kids.

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Bigbopper » Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:56 pm

Longsidelenny1882 wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:11 pm
We won’t pay you for playing but you can have some money coaching brilliant UPTHECOLNE
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Are you a bit dim

Read the post by arise-sir-charge, he clearly states that non of the playing staff are paid for coaching.

We all realse you have something against Lowerhouse but you're becoming tiresome.

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by arise_sir_charge » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:01 pm

For clarity, Paddy Martin does not get paid for playing or for coaching.
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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:29 pm

Bigbopper wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 2:56 pm
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Are you a bit dim

Read the post by arise-sir-charge, he clearly states that non of the playing staff are paid for coaching.

We all realse you have something against Lowerhouse but you're becoming tiresome.
Clearly thick as mince. #UTH #FTC (F**kTheColne) 😂

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Somethingfishy » Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:47 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 3:01 pm
For clarity, Paddy Martin does not get paid for playing or for coaching.
My apologies. Just an assumption based on him coaching and there being paid coaches. He certainly deserves it.

Makes sense though so as to avoid the sort of accusations being thrown about by supporters of clubs that aren't even close to the levels at Lowerhouse off the field..and even on it.

The fact he devotes so much of his time at the club for free is remarkable and testament to the spirit and values at the club.

One thing is for certain..there is a lot of jealousy about at the moment

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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu Jul 17, 2025 7:21 pm

Something I will absolutely concur with, is that Stan (never mind which Stan, because there really is only one and everyone knows who he is!) would never condone any form of breaching or bending of league rules and paying amateurs would be at the very top of his hate list. When that unfortunate furore surrounding Clitheroe's championship win was at its height several years back, there was noone more incandescent about what had gone on there than Stan (well, maybe Harry Brooks!) So despite the fact that it probably goes on at some other clubs in both divisions, I for one am 100% certain everything is above board at The 'Ouse.
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Re: Lancashire League weekend thread

Post by WadingInDeeper » Thu Jul 17, 2025 9:47 pm

Bigbopper wrote:
Thu Jul 17, 2025 8:24 am
A number of the playing staff attend the ground on training nights to help the youngsters.
There are a lot of clubs/players who could learn from their example. You can see that they are there because they want to be, and it’s creating another generation of young cricketers who are invested in the club, a core of whom continue to practice long after the session has finished.
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