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Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Terrier » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:30 pm

IFAB ( no me neither) are currently deciding on whether to ban scoring a goal from a pen rebound, if the player does not score 1st time a goal kick will be awarded .
Saying it could come in before the 2026 world cup.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by BleedingClaret » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:33 pm

That’s just daft
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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Culmclaret » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:37 pm

Why?? What is the problem they are trying to solve?
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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Somethingfishy » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:40 pm

Why? Just why? :roll:

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:45 pm

Probably religious types wanting to stop the "Jesus saves, Barnes scores the rebound" posters
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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by robinoz » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:55 pm

Presumably to address the anomaly between penalties during the game (rebounds allowed) and penalties in a shoot out (rebounds not allowed)

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:56 pm

And the farce which is players encroaching into the area.
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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Paul Waine » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:34 pm

robinoz wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:55 pm
Presumably to address the anomaly between penalties during the game (rebounds allowed) and penalties in a shoot out (rebounds not allowed)
And the anomaly is what?

Penalties during the game, the game is still being played: player shoots, keeper get's hand to the ball and it bounces back of the post/crossbar, the ball is still in play and opportunity for attacker to score and defenders to defend.

Penalty shoot out: game has already finished, scores even. penalty shoot out between one penalty taker and the goalkeeper. Score or miss, that's all there is to it.

Do IFAB think penalty in football should be treated the same as free throw in basketball?
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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by LeadBelly » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:46 pm

Culmclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:37 pm
Why?? What is the problem they are trying to solve?
I'd guess the problem is: trying to demonstrate that they are doing something to justify their (probably huge) salaries.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:51 pm

David Elleray is the main man at IFAB

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:53 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:51 pm
David Elleray is the main man at IFAB
Our referee for the Stockport game in 94 wasn’t he?

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Goliath » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:56 pm

I actually agree with this. The chances of a goal are already about 80% at a guess, that's massively enhanced with rebounds. If you miss you don't deserve a 2nd go at it.
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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:58 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:53 pm
Our referee for the Stockport game in 94 wasn’t he?
He was yes.
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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by burnmark » Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:58 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:34 pm
And the anomaly is what?

Penalties during the game, the game is still being played: player shoots, keeper get's hand to the ball and it bounces back of the post/crossbar, the ball is still in play and opportunity for attacker to score and defenders to defend.

Penalty shoot out: game has already finished, scores even. penalty shoot out between one penalty taker and the goalkeeper. Score or miss, that's all there is to it.

Do IFAB think penalty in football should be treated the same as free throw in basketball?
My first thought was another Americanisation was on its way, but play carries on even after the second free throw in basketball.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Roosterbooster » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:02 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:56 pm
And the farce which is players encroaching into the area.
This is it

Change a rule that doesn't need changing just because they don't enforce another

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Spijed » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:04 pm

Goliath wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 7:56 pm
I actually agree with this. The chances of a goal are already about 80% at a guess, that's massively enhanced with rebounds. If you miss you don't deserve a 2nd go at it.
You aren't getting a second go at it, hence why a player scoring from a rebound just gets credited with scoring a normal goal

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by distortiondave » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:04 pm

I get it at its most basic level;
Goal; keeper saves and its a corner; keeper saves and its held; player hits wide and its a goalkick; - what's the proposed protocol for hitting the woodwork or keeper saving it a long distance and rebounding back into play?
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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:04 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:56 pm
And the farce which is players encroaching into the area.
Isn’t that now only an offence if they affect the play?

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:07 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:04 pm
I get it at its most basic level;
Goal; keeper saves and its a corner; keeper saves and its held; player hits wide and its a goalkick; - what's the proposed protocol for hitting the woodwork or keeper saving it a long distance and rebounding back into play?
Keeper gets a finger tip to the pen. But ref doesn’t see / isn’t clear. Hits post and rebounds out. What happens then.

I’m getting more and more disillusioned with the beautiful game.

A game that for 100+ years was loved in its raw form. Errors. Mistakes. And fouls included.

It’s now being sanitised and messed with beyond belief.

Most normal fans are fed up with it. Problem is. They don’t really give a **** about normal fans.
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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:04 pm
Isn’t that now only an offence if they affect the play?
Yes, I believe so. But of course they would only affect play if the penalty happens to be saved or rebounded off the woodwork - and then VAR have a job on their hands analysing who was encroaching and whether or not they affected play. I suspect this is another example of a law potentially being changed due to the introduction of VAR.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by timshorts » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:14 pm

So when it hits the post bounces onto the back of the keeper and into the net, that won't be a goal?

Changin g a rule that doesn't need changing seems very wengerish.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by whiffa » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:16 pm

What would happen in this instance, if the shot hits the post then rebounds off the back of the keeper and goes in? Is it an own goal? A goal kick? Interesting.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Goalkeeper » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:20 pm

whiffa wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:16 pm
What would happen in this instance, if the shot hits the post then rebounds off the back of the keeper and goes in? Is it an own goal? A goal kick? Interesting.
It's quite clearly a goal as the keeper hasn't saved it. If he touches it onto the post, the game stops.
But I don't think it should be changed though.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by whiffa » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:23 pm

Goalkeeper wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:20 pm
It's quite clearly a goal as the keeper hasn't saved it. If he touches it onto the post, the game stops.
But I don't think it should be changed though.
Does hitting the woodwork and coming back out away from goal not technically class as a "rebound" though? I think the goal should still stand too but I can see it being debated.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:38 pm

Terrier wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 5:30 pm
IFAB ( no me neither) are currently deciding on whether to ban scoring a goal from a pen rebound, if the player does not score 1st time a goal kick will be awarded .
Saying it could come in before the 2026 world cup.
Slightly hysterical title. From what I have read there are a lot of words like "proposal" and "considering" that the permanently outraged (like Talk sport presenters) are ignoring.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by CyrilEbokiPoh » Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:48 pm

Goalkeeper wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:20 pm
It's quite clearly a goal as the keeper hasn't saved it. If he touches it onto the post, the game stops.
But I don't think it should be changed though.
What if he tips it on to the post and it rolls in

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by timshorts » Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:05 pm

If they are going to change the rules, I'd rather they allowed the keeper to come charging off his line as soon as a kick taker stops or stutters or deliberately slows down in his run up.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by GordonvaleClaret » Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:03 am

When taking a penalty, you are not compelled to shoot for goal.
The law states that the ball must be played forward and the taker cannot play the ball again until it has been played by another player.
The taker may treat the initial play-the-ball like an indirect free kick and tap the ball forwards for a team mate to run on to.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Clive 1960 » Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:09 am

Every year they are wanting to change the rules of the game we first introduced just let game be as it is and let us folk try and enjoy it ...

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by Goalkeeper » Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:51 am

CyrilEbokiPoh wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 8:48 pm
What if he tips it on to the post and it rolls in
Goal, because he hasn't saved it.

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Re: Penalty rebound to be banned

Post by wilks_bfc » Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:54 am

GordonvaleClaret wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 1:03 am
When taking a penalty, you are not compelled to shoot for goal.
The law states that the ball must be played forward and the taker cannot play the ball again until it has been played by another player.
The taker may treat the initial play-the-ball like an indirect free kick and tap the ball forwards for a team mate to run on to.
Henry & Pires tried that once and fd it up

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